Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:07 PM

But guns help me defend myself against guns! Don't ban guns!

Here's what I keep hearing from gun-fetishists:

1. But guns help me defend myself against guns!

2. If shooters can’t get guns, people will just start building bombs to kill people, so why ban guns?

3. The framers’ intention with the 2nd Amendment was so we could own guns, and no other reasons.

4. Most people who buy guns are collectors, just like people who collect salt and pepper shakers and teddy bears.

5. The shooter at Sandy Hook could’ve killed those 26 people with knives just as easily.

6. Gun owners are very responsible people, so why all the fuss about the shootings in this country?

7. If you encounter a criminal with a gun on the street, you could just then easily pull yours out and kill him.

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But guns help me defend myself against guns! Don't ban guns! (Original post)	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2012	OP
you forgot the sarcasm thingy .....	srican69	Dec 2012	#1
Sadly, no she didn't. These are "serious" positions/talking points of the gun proliferation crowd...	villager	Dec 2012	#2
I wish! I don't think these people use these excuses as sarcasm. I think they believe them! nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2012	#5
It all comes down to this: do you believe in the rule of law or not?	hedgehog	Dec 2012	#3
What are you talking about? The rule of law prohibits gay marriage. What then? nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2012	#4
I'm talking about whether you trust local law enforcement to protect you	hedgehog	Dec 2012	#9
Do I trust local law enforcement to protect me against gun owners? Of course not.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2012	#10
As far as #3	RoccoR5955	Dec 2012	#6
8. Guns don't kill people. People (update that to "mentally ill" people) kill people.	Walk away	Dec 2012	#7
You can't really have it both ways.	Union Scribe	Dec 2012	#8

Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:08 PM

srican69 (1,426 posts)

1. you forgot the sarcasm thingy .....

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Response to srican69 (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:13 PM

villager (26,001 posts)

2. Sadly, no she didn't. These are "serious" positions/talking points of the gun proliferation crowd...

Alas.

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Response to srican69 (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:18 PM

Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)

5. I wish! I don't think these people use these excuses as sarcasm. I think they believe them! nt

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:14 PM

hedgehog (36,286 posts)

3. It all comes down to this: do you believe in the rule of law or not?

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:17 PM

Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)

4. What are you talking about? The rule of law prohibits gay marriage. What then? nt

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:26 PM

hedgehog (36,286 posts)

9. I'm talking about whether you trust local law enforcement to protect you

or whether you feel the need to protect yourself; whether you live in fear of attack or not.

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:44 PM

Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)

10. Do I trust local law enforcement to protect me against gun owners? Of course not.

How could law enforcement possibly protect anyone in a country riddled with guns?

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:21 PM

RoccoR5955 (12,471 posts)

6. As far as #3

Just read the first phrase of the Second Amendment: A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state

Then ask them if they are a member of a well regulated militia, and where it states that any schmuck should be able to have a gun.

#4 is false

#5 is laughable, as is 6

#7 sounds like it's a penis, not a gun.

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:23 PM

Walk away (9,494 posts)

7. 8. Guns don't kill people. People (update that to "mentally ill" people) kill people.

It's important to remember that it's not the NRA that makes crazy people

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:26 PM

Union Scribe (7,099 posts)

8. You can't really have it both ways.

You can't state we have a problem with guns in the wrong hands, and then laugh at people who want to feel protected against guns in the wrong hands.

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