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the maniac just basically said to free luigi..... (Original Post) moonshinegnomie Feb 15 OP
Nixon - "When the President does it, it's not illegal"... Wounded Bear Feb 15 #1
So pardon Luigi. Bluethroughu Feb 15 #2
He could pardon him for terrorism charges TexasBushwhacker Feb 15 #32
Terrorism is the state charge in this case. LeftInTX Feb 15 #43
If I was on a jury, it would be self defense. Bluethroughu Feb 15 #46
Maybe, but I wonder if he understands Dan Feb 15 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author 2naSalit Feb 15 #9
For cons maybe, cause Luigi ain't getting out of jaill, then prison... brush Feb 15 #40
Another admission of guilt BOSSHOG Feb 15 #4
! LudwigPastorius Feb 15 #5
He who makes up shit FalloutShelter Feb 15 #6
Bwaaaah malaise Feb 15 #14
Had to click to see which maniac. TSF, Eloon, Marjorie Traitor Goon, or others. TheBlackAdder Feb 15 #7
Same here. That's a sad commentary on our predicament, eh? allegorical oracle Feb 15 #24
You know, True Dough Feb 21 #51
He is disgusting Johonny Feb 15 #8
This has always been the twisted logic radius777 Feb 15 #10
LOL, sounds like famous (or infamous) last words n/t AntiFascist Feb 15 #11
Wasn't it John Wilkes Booth that first said that? Girard442 Feb 15 #12
Napoleon Bonaparte, the Internet tells me. Igel Feb 15 #13
Yes. Wilkes-Booth shouted a similar exhortation as he leaped from the balcony. John1956PA Feb 15 #16
Booth's "sic semper tyrannis" fits here nicely. n/t Harker Feb 15 #17
Translation: Thus Always for Tyrants ! Captain Zero Feb 15 #31
+33. n/t Harker Feb 15 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Captain Zero Feb 15 #34
So... jmowreader Feb 15 #15
Like J 6 BidenRocks Feb 15 #18
That's the way this veteran reads it. liberalgunwilltravel Feb 15 #19
That there stage left Feb 15 #20
Did he take them off tsf's ass long enough to speak? rubbersole Feb 15 #21
Yeah, but Trump's a wee bit light on the saving his country part of the statement. patphil Feb 15 #22
plagiarizes Barry Goldwater WarGamer Feb 15 #23
What about he who destroys his country? n/t birdographer Feb 15 #25
Shocking he would call for his own death. Lucky Luciano Feb 15 #26
Kinda like 'in order to save the village we had to destroy it.' c-rational Feb 15 #27
So if someone harms him, all will be forgiven? BadgerMom Feb 15 #28
To the best of my knowledge Luigi hasn't accomplished anything, except his own fame LeftInTX Feb 15 #29
Funny answer on Bluesky Blue Full Moon Feb 15 #30
However: He who DESTROYS his country... FailureToCommunicate Feb 15 #35
I can't wait until this Orange MF gets his comeuppance. Quanta Feb 15 #36
I'm confused. Hope22 Feb 15 #37
Sounds like an invitation to Disaffected Feb 15 #38
Is he asking to be assassinated? WhiteTara Feb 15 #39
However... Godot51 Feb 15 #41
Is he saying he supports killing millionaires? nt Nittersing Feb 15 #42
"By definition, he who sells out his country does not save it" Uncle Joe Feb 15 #44
FAWK HIM!!!!! a kennedy Feb 15 #45
Os won't pardon him because he targeted part of the billionaire complex etc. Meowmee Feb 15 #47
Is that message specifically about Luigi? Renew Deal Feb 15 #48
Nope. Just the thoughts of someone who thinks LeftInTX Feb 15 #49
Kick ck4829 Feb 21 #50

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
43. Terrorism is the state charge in this case.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 07:21 PM
Feb 15

He is being tried for murder in both the federal and state case. The federal govt uses a cyberstalking charge, not terrorism.

The federal government only has a statute for international terrorism.
For instance: Boston bomber was convicted of:
Use of a weapon of mass destruction resulting in death (18 U.S.C. § 2332a) (2 counts)
Use of a weapon of mass destruction (18 U.S.C. § 2332a) (4 counts)
Conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction resulting in death (18 U.S.C. § 2332a)
Bombing a place of public use resulting in death (18 U.S.C. § 2332a) (2 counts)
Conspiracy to bomb a place of public use resulting in death (18 U.S.C. § 2332a)
Maliciously destroying property resulting in death (18 U.S.C. § 844) (2 counts)
Conspiracy to maliciously destroy property resulting in death (18 U.S.C. § 844)
Carjacking resulting in serious bodily injury (18 U.S.C. § 2119)
Use of a firearm during a crime of violence resulting in death (18 U.S.C. § 924) (9 counts)
Use of a firearm during a crime of violence (18 U.S.C. § 924) (6 counts)
Interfering with commerce by threats or violence (18 U.S.C. § 1951)

The media will call people like the boston bomber a domestic terrorist, but he wasn't charged with it because that statute doesn't exist.

New York added terrorism charges so they could charge him with first degree murder. In New York, premeditated murder is not considered first degree. 2nd degree would have allowed him out in 15-20 years. Maybe they could have tagged a different charge to get it up to 1st degree? Maybe the untraceable firearm? (Who knows?)

(xiii) the victim was killed in furtherance of an act of terrorism, as
defined in paragraph (b) of subdivision one of section 490.05 of this
chapter

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/125.27

Response to Dan (Reply #3)

brush

(59,678 posts)
40. For cons maybe, cause Luigi ain't getting out of jaill, then prison...
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 07:05 PM
Feb 15

as he's a murderer.

True Dough

(22,839 posts)
51. You know,
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 07:38 AM
Feb 21

Traitor Trump and wacky Eloon have been so Looney Tunes that MTG has largely been denied the spotlight. At least I haven't heard much about her lately. I hope she's not doing well, anyway.

radius777

(3,921 posts)
10. This has always been the twisted logic
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 04:36 PM
Feb 15

behind evil acts like terrorism, genocide etc - that it's morally justified - regardless of laws and norms.

John1956PA

(3,977 posts)
16. Yes. Wilkes-Booth shouted a similar exhortation as he leaped from the balcony.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 05:36 PM
Feb 15

Remarks like this one from Trump are indeed frightening.

Captain Zero

(7,827 posts)
31. Translation: Thus Always for Tyrants !
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 06:46 PM
Feb 15

Booth was wrong about Lincoln, though.
Trump needs to be stopped some way or another. He fully intends to be a tyrant.

Response to Harker (Reply #17)

jmowreader

(52,192 posts)
15. So...
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 05:17 PM
Feb 15

Donald, what you're saying is that if the Secret Service were to drown your entire administration and Elon Musk in a horse trough, that would be perfectly legal?

BidenRocks

(1,373 posts)
18. Like J 6
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 05:46 PM
Feb 15

Chump has green lit the overthrow of his dictatorship.
Every veteran who swore an oath is now free to proceed.
Save the Constitution!
Words have consequences.

patphil

(7,727 posts)
22. Yeah, but Trump's a wee bit light on the saving his country part of the statement.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 06:16 PM
Feb 15

But he's got the violating the law part down really well.

WarGamer

(16,990 posts)
23. plagiarizes Barry Goldwater
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 06:16 PM
Feb 15

“Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”


Although, just to note... MANY now chant “Extremism in defense of democracy is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

Quanta

(222 posts)
36. I can't wait until this Orange MF gets his comeuppance.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 06:56 PM
Feb 15

His Karma is soooo bad, it has to happen eventually.

Hope22

(3,928 posts)
37. I'm confused.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 06:59 PM
Feb 15

Is this directed at anything in particular or simply one of his putrid farts at our sanity?

Uncle Joe

(61,508 posts)
44. "By definition, he who sells out his country does not save it"
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 07:26 PM
Feb 15

Thanks for the thread moonshinegnomie

a kennedy

(33,379 posts)
45. FAWK HIM!!!!!
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 07:29 PM
Feb 15

and ya know??? That’s ALL I am ever gonna say from now and until he’s FAWKING GONE!!!! 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

Renew Deal

(83,843 posts)
48. Is that message specifically about Luigi?
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 09:56 PM
Feb 15

I don't see an obvious connection online. How was that connection made?

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
49. Nope. Just the thoughts of someone who thinks
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 10:05 PM
Feb 15

Luigi "saved the country,"

I have no idea how he "saved the country", because it's in much worse shape than it was on Dec 4th.

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