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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt is impossible that the Republicans can't see what is happening.
No doubt they are being bombarded with phone calls and messages. I would find it hard to believe that they are all thrilled at the destruction that is taking place. If they would cooperate with Democrats, Trump could be removed from office via impeachment. If Vance continued to defy the law, he could also be impeached. This is the remedy for tyrannical rule.
If they are being threatened, or if they feel they are without a choice, why even stay in office? It cannot be very satisfying to know that you are facilitating the destruction of democracy.
I do NOT believe that Trump has high approval ratings. That is propaganda.
Two years is too long to wait for change. Who knows if there will still be elections in 2026?

Autumn
(47,719 posts)it and covering for those doing the destruction. Every single fucking Republican is a part of it.
Cheezoholic
(2,873 posts)I fought my ass off against these assholes back during the 12 year Poppy Bush reign (Raygun was just the mouthpiece as is FatAss).
It is so disappointing that in my supposed "golden years" I have to do it again. I've fought against repukes my entire adult life but not like I did in the 80's and not like I'm going to have to now (as many here are in the same boat). You have to take time to live life. It grates on me like nothing you can imagine. I may have one foot in the grave but my other one can still kick butt!
Tickle
(4,025 posts)all that is going on, and they'll tell you, either they don't care or he's doing what he said he would do.. something like that 😑
Eyeball Kid
(149 posts)is that theyll feel a shiv going up their ass and be shocked that its a special gift from their golden god. Look. Theyre oligarchs. They want to alter the taxpayers revenue stream so that the money gets diverted from the Treasury and into THEIR POCKETS. Its been their plan for decades. The plan is nothing new. What IS new is that 50% of the country got bamboozled into believing that no harm will come to them because Trump. And they all believe that Trumps lies will not be consequential for them. Theyre in for a big surprise. But when the light bulb goes off in their heads, it will be too late.
SheltieLover
(66,744 posts)
yellow dahlia
(2,273 posts)We are tired, and don't have the energy of youth, and a few have medical limitations. But here we are.
I share your sentiment. If I go out while trying to save Democracy...it will be a worthy cause.
I am full on doing what I can for the resistance. I can't make it to D.C. But I am calling and emailing....incessantly.
I have taken on a mission of fact checking and sharing crucial information on social media. (I was going to leave the platform provided by the Z guy, but decided to use it for good, instead.) I'm flooding that zone.
I have an idea for getting information out via billboards, that reference a website with the facts of what is happening (we need to counter the message on RW media). But it requires building the infrastructure, and right now we are all trying to respond to the blitzkrieg.
I am donating to Public Citizen, Democracy Defenders, Democracy Docket, etc. I am donating to media outlets, such as Wired.
It's exhausting, but that is why this was styled as a take over and blitzkrieg...and flooding of the zone.
I told Mr. Dahlia I may have to give up my sanity, in order to stand up for Democracy. He said - what about his sanity?
I am glad DU is here to keep us all connected and united.
Bluetus
(969 posts)They will not. They have already walked the plank too far. There is no path for retreat.
Moreover, there simply aren't many "reasonable Republicans" left. Most have been replaced with MAGA people, or else have willingly capitulated.
They have to be destroyed. Of course, we should leave the door to safety open if a few Republicans want to do the right thing. But a strategy of reasoning with them is foolish. There is no time for that. They have had 25 years to try to meet us in good faith.
zorbasd
(388 posts)of Democratic members who say how their Republican colleagues (puke) are secretly opposed to this destruction, and just afraid of the Magats to state opposition. I say BS, they are lying to you dems, when will you figure that out. They are all out and out fascist scumbags.
JustAnotherGen
(34,693 posts)Hears from me almost daily.
tritsofme
(19,097 posts)Trump doesnt have anything to do with states running their elections.
milestogo
(20,331 posts)I presume that's just step 1.
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/07/nx-s1-5290112/trump-federal-election-commissioner-weintraub
tritsofme
(19,097 posts)milestogo
(20,331 posts)that they'll never have to vote again. Fascist dictators may have elections, but its just for show. The outcome is known in advance.
tritsofme
(19,097 posts)just for show
Democrats hold all the relevant statewide offices, Trump has no role.
Diraven
(1,361 posts)Like they ignore court orders.
tritsofme
(19,097 posts)Cirsium
(2,339 posts)"States control elections" is just another guardrail that will be bulldozed over.
tritsofme
(19,097 posts)and just not have elections?
Who is it that is being naive here?
Cirsium
(2,339 posts)Ignoring for the time being the massive ongoing Republican voter suppression agenda, what do you expect Pritzker, Whitmer, and Newsom to do if Congress tosses the electoral votes from their states? What do you expect Pritzker, Whitmer, and Newsom to do if Trump declared a national emergency and declared an election to be halted?
tritsofme
(19,097 posts)No matter what bullshit he declares on Truth Social.
If anything the Trumpers would be the ones likely to stay home causing an even bigger Democratic rout.
The reforms signed by President Biden make monkeying around with the electoral vote certification more difficult, but that is not even related to the coming midterms where Democrats are incredibly likely to win the House.
Some folks just love their doom and gloom.
Cirsium
(2,339 posts)Do you really expect Democratic governors to initiate a civil war? That is an extremely unrealistic expectation.
Do you do not believe that Trump would attempt to shut down or overturn elections? Really? After everything we have seen? What do you think January 6th was about?
Do you not believe that if Trump did attempt to shut down or overturn elections it would take very extreme measures to stop him?
Have judicial, electoral, or legislative solutions worked so far? Vance and Musk are now saying that the judiciary has no power over Trump. Do you think they are bluffing?
Has Trump shown any inclination to moderate his behavior? Has he experienced any serious loss of support?
Trump doesnt have anything to do with states running their elections? Trump doesnt have anything to do with the authorization of funding by Congress, either. What happened to that guardrail?
mercuryblues
(15,563 posts)Then you will understand.
Trump sits at the right hand of Jesus according to them, therefore everything he does is blessed. He literally could kill a newborn baby and eat it on live TV, and they would cheer. Some will emulate him.
dgauss
(1,304 posts)watch right wing news and listen to right wing radio for a while.
Whatever you call it - gaslighting, propaganda, brainwashing - it's been going on for decades on a massive scale and we're now seeing the predictable payoff.
I think of it an epidemic. Instead of making people physically ill by attacking the lungs it's been making people mentally ill by attacking people's perception of liberalism and the government. And on a national scale. Why there hasn't been an effort to combat this with an urgency and on a scale of the response to Covid, I'll never understand considering the damage it's done.
maxsolomon
(36,378 posts)1. They're cheering and they're fulling invested in the RW mediasphere.
2. They're not paying any attention now that scary Libruls are defeated.
3. They're too dumb or senile to understand.
Oneironaut
(5,961 posts)They almost unanimously love Trump and all the actions hes taken. Most of them want authoritarianism because they feel it would benefit them and make them have power over a permanent underclass beneath them.
homegirl
(1,705 posts)please authoritarian Father..
.George Lakoff
PortTack
(35,572 posts)Cirsium
(2,339 posts)Even if there were not more of us than there are of them them the fight against them would still be the right thing to do, and the fact that there are more of us than there are of them is of no value if it is not put to use.
usonian
(17,209 posts)Reality distortion field.
Mike 03
(18,403 posts)coming from. The hosts on the SiriusXM Progress channel have taken pains to remind listeners that Trump has the lowest approval of an incoming president in decades, combined with high negatives.
It's going to be so damned hard to get the truth now, even on the simplest matters.
Deep State Witch
(11,742 posts)I'm sure that they'll find a way to rationalize it. It's what cult members do. The leader is never wrong.
WarGamer
(16,990 posts)Thinking that he's secretly unpopular is delusional.
twodogsbarking
(13,400 posts)GiqueCee
(2,139 posts)Unfortunately, too many, like Mike Lee of Utah (R), are giddy with glee at the destruction of democracy.
Democracy isnt the objective; liberty, peace, and prospefity [sic] are. We want the human condition to flourish. Rank democracy can thwart that.
"RANK democracy", you treacherous fuck? Really? That quote is from 4+ years ago, but it serves to demonstrates just what a filthy, disloyal to democracy, at least scumbag Lee really is. But then, that describes every Republican, now.
GiqueCee
(2,139 posts)Unfortunately, too many, like Mike Lee of Utah (R), are giddy with glee at the destruction of democracy.
Democracy isnt the objective; liberty, peace, and prospefity [sic] are. We want the human condition to flourish. Rank democracy can thwart that.
"RANK democracy", you treacherous fuck? Really? That quote is from 4+ years ago, but it serves to demonstrate just what a filthy, disloyal to democracy, at least scumbag Lee really is. But then, that describes every Republican, now, IMHO. Well, maybe not so humble, but you know what I mean.
Harker
(16,095 posts)they're "all in."
leftieNanner
(15,938 posts)Is why the highly ambitious Republican Senators (who lust after the Resolute Desk) are just allowing The Orange One to install himself there for life.
Bev54
(12,389 posts)They voted for
flashman13
(1,159 posts)They couldn't be more wrong. They forget that most of the members of the Reichstag that empowered Hitler ended up in the camps or worse.
Good night and Good Luck.
usaf-vet
(7,463 posts)..........driving a truck. Of course not. That is part of the reason Congress is so dysfunctional.
TERM LIMITS
SheltieLover
(66,744 posts)Dead serious.
usaf-vet
(7,463 posts)SheltieLover
(66,744 posts)They should try livingng with integrity!
spanone
(138,810 posts)LiberalArkie
(17,989 posts)had anything bad to say about them.
Skittles
(163,553 posts)THEY APPROVE
CountAllVotes
(21,700 posts)They like it just fine.
They think they will get getting another tax cut.
The rich depend in it.
No tax cut = buh bye tRump!
Damned loser.
LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER !!!!
byronius
(7,713 posts) that down the road a bit its over for them.
They either successfully destroy the USA, or politically die.
DET
(1,958 posts)If youre referring to Republicans in Congress, personally I think about 30% are true believers and 70% are just scared shitless of TSF. My husband reverses those numbers. I suspect that a number of them have been physically threatened (although I have no evidence to base that on). As a relatively normal human being, it is simply inconceivable to me how any elected official can support the destructive goals and actions of this illegitimate administration. I couldnt live with myself.
WestMichRad
(2,248 posts)
and depending on the particular R, one or more is true for each and apparently every one of them. In any case, they know full well what is happening.
1- Intimidation drives their silence
2- An expectation that once TFG is gone, things will return to a more normal setting and Rs will still be in power, and if they speak up now theyll be run out of office one way or another. (See: primarying of non-Trumpers). Yes, this is self-delusional. And/or
3- in full agreement with what is happening.
Any and all of which makes them spineless arseholes.
barbtries
(30,344 posts)She's conservative, but not MAGA. she finally switched to unaffiliated within the last year or so. I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out whether or not there is even one reasonable republican left in congress, and the answer is no. even if they are, they are afraid.
I think it's beyond being afraid of losing their next election, it's much more existential. They are afraid that magats will destroy their personal lives. they may even be literally afraid of being killed. TCFSF wants so so much to be putin. We all know how fond putin is of having his "enemies" (most of us would call them adversaries) defenestrated or poisoned, imprisoned, beaten and tortured to death.
both of my senators are republicans and I do call thom tillis on a regular basis. i think budd is a magat to the core so, even though calling tillis may seem like a waste of time, I do it anyway hoping that 1000s of others are doing the same. I tell him that this is his chance to stand up for the USA and be great. I asked him the last time whether his fingers were crossed or he was laughing to himself the last time he took his oath of office.
If Democrats could get a few republicans with the courage to stand up for this country, they could make an impeachment stick. they could get a meeting with TCFSF and tell him you either kick elon to the curb or you will be impeached and convicted. They could turn this shit around. but they won't. i think for many if not most, they don't care about democracy, they love this. Others who do, they're scared, craven, and feckless.
we are screwed.
milestogo
(20,331 posts)and I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall. Like he absolutely couldn't care less what any Democratic constituent has to say. So I send the form letters when I get certain emails, but I'm also afraid he'll put me on a list as a traitor. That may seem ridiculous, but I have zero trust in him. My other Senator is Tammy Baldwin, and she pretty much always does what we want her to.
So one senator is a waste of time and the other is going to do the right thing anyway.
I don't know what is wrong with Republicans. They don't seem like real people.
C_U_L8R
(47,143 posts)And still they will never achieve the fear and control they crave so badly
UpInArms
(52,628 posts)Will continue to suck the flavor aid
Aristus
(69,710 posts)They know that their demented, in-bred constituents have guns, no morals, and no impulse control. They know if they exercise their brains in opposition to Trump's catastrophic power-grab, those brains will soon be splattered all over whatever greasy spoon diner they go to to drum up re-election support. It's going to be target practice day out in East Cornpone.