trump voter at risk for losing his farm after trump signed EO to put a freeze on IRA funds - Should we empathize?

[tulipsandroses]

Skylar has several videos pleading for help to call senators so that he does not lose his farm. I've seen some posts saying we should show empathy because we will need folks like this on our side. Thoughts??

I have no Fs to give for these folks. If they want my empathy, then they should denounce Everything that POS is doing. Not just their pet cause.
https://www.tiktok.com/@cattlemenfamilyfarms/video/7468375097628200234

[LearnedHand]

1. What EO is this?

I've not heard of one that freezes IRAs. Beyond that, no I have no fucks to give.

Wait my bad. IRA in this case means Inflation Reduction Act. Now I especially have no fucks to give. This pigfucker voted FOR the decimation of government "handouts."

[quaint]

21. TY! Instant BP rise from the OP.

Without my retirement account, I'd only make it three months without Social Security. Whew!

[Littlered]

51. I had to go watch it.

It’s referring to the IRA Inflation reduction act funds. Sounds like he used his own money to do some things that were suppose to be reimbursed through thenIRA. Now the funds are not being disbursed because of an E.O. that has paused payments. The moral of the story. NEVER EVER, EVER. Take any funding from the fed. Especially if it doesn’t come up front.

[dpibel]

56. You're against federal grants?

What an interesting position!

[Littlered]

65. I don't believe that is what I said.

As a person that spent part of their former life doing work that was intertwined with grants etc. I’ve seen a lot of things go bad. Projects left unfinished, costing municipalities (in some cases) millions of dollars to finish. Because an I wasn’t properly dotted. I’ve seen the strings that are attached to some, that end up costing more in the long run than it was worth. Hence why I said, unless the money comes up front. It’s been my firsthand experience, the fed isn’t a reliable long term business partner. Furthermore many grants end up leading to higher taxes and fees.

[dpibel]

68. Government spending!! Higher taxes!!

Heaven forfend!

That sounds familiar, somehow. But I just can't quite place it.

[Littlered]

71. I'd say that is a fact.

The money isn’t created out of thin air. That’s not the point….. But I have the feeling you don’t care to understand my point. I don’t believe keeping the fed out of your life or your business is a left or right pov. It’s just how I was raised. And it’s been my experience. Privately, in government and later in business. Your opinion may vary.

In my case it became personal decades ago. Government entity gets grant, government entity takes entire street (and childhood home where my widowed mother lived) via eminent domain. Buying the houses cost exponentially more than they planned because people got lawyers. Future funding dries up, project never comes to fruition. School gone, (had to replaced at tax payer expense as they didn’t get lawyers). Community destroyed, lives upended. Land ends up being rezoned commercial and sold to developers for business. It’s now fast food type sit down restaurants. Yay grants…. And just because a grant becomes available under one administration doesn’t mean it will continue under the next. As the video points out. Which leads me back to my original post…… I don’t have feelings one way of the other regarding people that choose to get grants….Best to get your money up front.

[jeffreyi]

63. He has an Equip contract with NRCS.

I have these also, to improve water conservation, irrigation efficiency, soil health, biodiversity, wildlife and pollinator habitat, etc. on my little farm. It's a great program, along with the Conservation Stewardship Program. The work is specified and detailed in a Conservation Plan. It's a contract between NRCS and the landowner. The landowner does the work, including buying supplies. The gov't funding does not happen up front. Furthermore, the funding is not supposed to pay for everything; it's a cost share, approximately one half. When the project is complete, it's inspected for compliance with the contract specifications. If it's certified by NRCS, then it's cleared for payment. This guy's gripe is legit. I need to check on the status of one of my contracts to see if it is frozen as well. It's a sure thing that eloon and his incel minions have no idea what any of this is about.

[tulipsandroses]

73. Thanks for the information about this program. I hope everything works out for you

Even if I bought the idea that there is serious waste and abuse, what experience does Eloon have to do take on that task?
Seems like he is just going through the troll list of grievances to make decisions. That may be fine for twitter or whatever he's calling it, but that is not going to work for Government.
It's not like Dems are the only recipients of grants, or are federal employees. Inevitably, there will be more trump voters feeling the repercussions in some way.
Republicans in congress need to keep him in check. But they won't .

[oldtime dfl_er]

2. no

Whoever Skylar is, they need to do some hard thinking, soul searching and figuring out what is important to them. I do not buy (and I haven't watched the video, so I could be in error) that they voted for Trump because of egg prices. In fact, I don't believe ANYBODY voted for Trump because of egg prices. If Skylar wants to do some inner searching and confront their racism, sexism, misogyny, and general hatred for those less for fortunate, then Skylar can do that. And then Skylar would come to "our side" (ie the side of truth and justice) on their own.

[Klarkashton]

3. One thing is certain he wouldn't be in this mess

If Harris were in charge.

[dmr]

67. Amen!

America would never be in the continuous disaster that it is in now.

That's for sure.

[DSandra]

4. These people have no sympathy or empathy for anyone not like them

"Leopards won't eat MY face!"

Fuck these people. Stupidity kills.

[MrWowWow]

5. He's Just Another Anthropogenic Climate Change-Denying tramp Worshipper on the Skids

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Encore! Encore! Encore!

[msongs]

6. F this guy. he will never change until he is desperate that HE is losing and does not

give a shit about anybody else being affected and once he gets his back he will revert to trump humping. let him lose his effing farm

[delisen]

7. Skyler is unwilling to blame Trump or Republicans

Instead he is blaming “the government.”

All he has to do is get righteously angry at Trump and his Missouri Republican representatives but he cannot seem to bring himself to do it.
Trump used taxpayer dollars to bail out farmers in his first term when his China tariff hit them. Why does he not have faith Trump will save farmers now?

I have no confidence that this man will help any of the rest of us , no matter how viciously Trump seeks to destroy our lives.

[Hassler]

8. I was looking for good news and thought it would be that McTurtle took another tumble

But this is good

[calguy]

9. Oh my God....

Watching this MAGAt cry about getting screwed by trump is priceless. But the comments he’s getting are icing on the cake.
Do yourself a favor: watch this video and read the comments. Well worth the time. It’s uplifting!

[róisín_dubh]

10. Seems apropos

[JoseBalow]

66. LOL!

[GoodRaisin]

11. He doesn't seem very smart.

[claudette]

12. No

My only consolation is that MAGATS will suffer too

[JT45242]

13. Face meet leopard...nothing but schadenfreude for this racist asshat

He voted for an adjudicated rapist and felon because he promised retribution on perceived enemies.

Guess what farmer, you are the enemy of the billionaire class.

Womp womp

[brettdale]

14. I bet anything

He will blame the democrats.

[Rigpa108]

15. The Paradox of Tolerance

The Paradox of Tolerance is something we need to be aware of, and act accordingly.

[Tarzanrock]

16. Maybe, if this rightwing, Fascist Shithead ...

... actually went out and worked his "farm" instead of making bullshit, whining Fascist videos he wouldn't find himself in his predicament? As mentioned above -- there is no "tolerance" for the "intolerant."

[LivingInASociety]

17. Nope

Nope nope nope. FAFO.

[Eddie Haskell 60]

18. He wanted to own the libs

Now the bank can own his farm.

[dem4decades]

33. Probably soon to be owned by a large Republican conglomerate. They may let him work the farm for minimum wage.

[Tarzanrock]

19. Skylar can suck an "egg" on it.

Why would you blow $80,000 making improvements based upon some unfullfilled contract which could be rescinded or not performed by the other party? It makes no economic sense nor any business sense to do that. Old Skylar doesn't look like he is hurting too badly given those expensive all-terrain vehicles he is using to drive around his farm. It would be real interesting to look at that alleged $240,000 "contract" he claims to have had with the "government." It would be real interesting to have a forensic accountant examine his business books.

[Aviation Pro]

20. Nope

Fuck him.

[Oopsie Daisy]

22. If we must suffer the consequences, then THEY must suffer as well.

If they don't, then how will they learn?

[ProudMNDemocrat]

23. As my late father would say about BAD DECISIONS...

"You made your bed, now lie in it."

When I was younger, that cliche applied as I wanted to prove that I was a grownup and adult. When it applies to tRump voters and MAGAts, it carries more meaning. This farmer made his decision. He cannot take it back. THIS is WHO he voted for and WHAT he voted for. He "made his bed." Now he has to lie in it.

[Emile]

24. Elections have consequences, time for him to accept personal responsibility.

[JI7]

25. They will never be on our side. Is he attacking Trump ?

is he condemning Trump ? Is he saying he was wrong to support him and admit he did so becsuse he wanted him to hurt others ?

[JI7]

26. This is what he voted for

[AkFemDem]

27. To feel empathy is a p[ersonal choice BUT....

regardless of whether I personally feel sorry for this person or others like them, I want them to keep speaking up!!!!

[JI7]

28. So he benefited directly from something Biden did

but therm supports Trump and loses what he had . Why is he crying ?

[bluesbassman]

38. And somehow he'll find a way to blame Democrats for the loss.

When and if the time comes that Democrats regain power and fix the mess Trump has created, he, and Faux News that I guarantee he watches all day long, will rail against the solutions. It’s a sick cycle.

[no_hypocrisy]

29. Yes and no.

Yes because I feel some compassion for his prospective loss. He followed all the rules and still will lose his farm.

No because he refused to consider all the facts and factors of his choice of candidate, Donald J. Trump. I could let this go if it were 2017 as so many people didn't know who he was and his lack of caring for anyone but himself. But he could have made a different choice, but he chose to believe whatever Trump said was truth and Trump would protect him.

[boston bean]

30. IDGAF

FAFO

[marble falls]

31. They have no sense of a plan, they are so full of their knowing everything and never ever consider consequences ...

... it isn't as if farmers shouldn't have learned anything about the Orange Shitgibbon after the first term when he tariffed the Chinese and the Chinese didn't buy any American soybeans that year in retaliation. If he was stupid enough to have voted for the end of American Democracy, he's smart enough to get a job as a greeter at the local Walmart. No sympathy whatsoever. Bad enough he voted to screw himself, but also voted to screw the rest of us.

[The Third Doctor]

32. I can't find it in me to care

He didn't give a damn about other people and voted for Trump to actively hurt people. He was too dumb to realize he was voting again his own self interests.

[mwmisses4289]

34. No.

Since the reagan era we dems have been told constantly that we don't understand them, we need to reach out to them, we need to work with them. We have made the attempt time after time, and have been metaphorically slapped in the face, called traitors, and weaklings for being who we are.

Well no more. We're done. It's time you reach out to us, try to understand us. But don't be surprised if we slap you in your stupid face.

[JI7]

35. Is he doing anything to help people that are losing their jobs and funding in other areas ?

[kerouac2]

36. Dude was benefitiing from inflation reduction act

And much more I have no doubt.

He's getting what he deserves, and what he helped inflict on others.

[PittBlue]

37. Well, Boo Hoo.

[Raven123]

39. Why doesn't he call a bunch of his buddies?

Maybe they can invade the Capitol and demand Congress stop the Trump administration.

[Lovie777]

40. Propaganda works well...............

there are a lot of pissed off people who felt shithole would rejuvenate the economy because the eggs are too high and voted for him and now in regret It wholeheartedly. Seems like corporate media ain't writing articles regarding that they blame shithole musk republicans.

[Autumn]

41. Fuck him. He got what he wanted. He can beg on a steet cornor.

[hatrack]

42. Nope, let the leopards feast!

Boo-hoo.

[LeftInTX]

43. Is he really a Trump voter? We all want him to be a regretful Trump voter.

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He is upset about his Natural Resources Conservation Service contract. He was installing water lines as part of the grant. Now I know alot of conservatives who are involved with conservation work because of grants, so I know that doesn't mean he's a not a Trump voter. I just can't find anything to indicate that he's a Trump voter or who he voted for etc...

Over the past two days Skylar Holden, a 27-year-old, first-generation cattle producer in eastern Missouri, has posted multiple videos detailing how he signed a contract with NRCS. He signed a contract with NRCS for $240,000 and now has $80,000 in material purchased and signed contracts to install water lines. Holden said he was told the contract was frozen and nobody knows when the money could be released.

In an interview with DTN, Holden expressed frustration because he was initially cautious about signing up for a government program. Once he got started, however, Holden said he was excited about the prospects and what the EQIP improvements could do on his land. He touted NRCS programs on his TikTok account @cattlemenfamilyfarms.

"I made business decisions based on this contract," Holden said.

Holden said NRCS staff told him to contact his congressional delegation in Missouri to see if they could get the funds release.

He added, "Going into this, if I had known they could have frozen the payments I never would have done it. I was promoting the NRCS programs a lot on my TikTok and I talked to a lot of people who signed up for those programs. And now looking back I feel guilty because they're all in the same boat I am in. They started projects and they aren't getting paid out on them."

https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/web/ag/news/article/2025/02/07/usda-freezes-conservation-funds-2

Sorry, but I'm just skeptical of videos of FAFO etc.

We do have a big "Latinos for Trump" guy in my neighborhood. He was involved in the 2020 Trump trains. He did take down his big Trump flag. He now has a Mexican flag. He has a flag collection in his back yard with USA, 13 colonies, Mexico and Crown of Castille (Old colonial Spanish flag)

(Although he's probably 1/2 Native American, a good chunk of Latinos are upset over Christopher Columbus Day being changed to Indigenous Peoples Day. And many still honor Columbus. It's complicated, but many are related to those conquistadors, like my husband, who is 1/2 indigenous)

He also took down his US Marines flag, so I'm not reading too much into it. I'm sure he's still a Trumper, but maybe he felt he could have been offending Latinos with his Trump flag? Who knows? Or maybe he just switched out flags the way he switches out his flower beds?

The fact that he put up colonial flags indicates that he's still a conservative, even though he put up a Mexican flag.

[tulipsandroses]

55. He said it himself. He has a video saying he voted for trump

Sorry can’t link to it now but you can look through his other videos to find it.
He does a bothsiderism speech in that video. According to him, it should not matter that he voted for trump because both sides are bad. Never mind that he was going to benefit from a Biden plan, but he voted for trump who took it away, yet he says both sides are bad.

I try my best to best to vet info before I post. I’m big on not amplifying misinformation.

My new favorite past time is enjoying these folks reap what they sowed.
They exist. To what extent, I don’t know, but they are out there.
Some even have the nerve to be saying now it’s time come together Another trump voter has a response video chastising the people criticizing this guy for voting for Rump, claiming it’s not red vs blue, it’s rich vs poor and we should all come together because all these farmers are hurting and all politicians lie during their campaigns and never do anything for working people .

To that I say, they should have done their “research “.

[LeftInTX]

72. Thank you for doing the research!

[Hope22]

44. He had time for FOX to filter for him.

Pretty sure he has internet to run his fancy tractors…but I could be wrong.

[dclarston13]

45. At this point in my life

I am convinced that many people will only learn from things that cause them pain. So this person is going to have to go through some pain to learn their lesson. Sorry tough shit, you made your choice.

[Raftergirl]

46. He can go work as a farm laborer on another farm to earn money. I hear they need help due to rotting

crops in the field. Maybe someday he will have enough money to have a wee garden behind his tented shack.

[Aristus]

47. Fuck no.

I hope he loses everything. There isn’t a Trump supporter alive who didn’t cast his vote with at least some malice, hoping that people they have chosen to hate will suffer as a result of another Trump presidency.

If the Trumpanzees suffer as a result of their own fecklessness, it’s because they deserve to.

[Americanme]

48. Hell no

Every voting republican voted AGAINST the voting reduction act. Democrats helped this guy, and he said screw democrats, and voted republican. No sympathy. Give him what he voted for. Otherwise, he will never learn, never stop voting republican.

[valleyrogue]

49. That is not the issue. We are all in it together, like it or not. n/t

[Vinca]

50. Suck it up, buttercup. This is just the beginning. He won't be the only MAGA suffering by a long shot.

[Lemons UK]

52. No.

[MineralMan]

53. Not Individual Retirement Accounts. Inflation Reduction Act money.

People will be confused if you just use an acronym without expanding it for the first usage. Could also be Irish Republican Army, or any of several other acronyms.

Be specific. Avoid confusion.

https://www.acronymfinder.com/IRA.html

[JBTaurus83]

54. I'm glad he is suffering

And I hope he loses his farm. He voted to support total hate against a lot of us in minority communities, women, and was a part of destroying our democracy. He can go to hell.

[Pris]

57. Elections have consequences

[travelingthrulife]

58. I had to pay for my own fence.

Always getting government handouts these guys.

[ismnotwasm]

59. FAFO

[W_HAMILTON]

60. LOL at the comments!

"Thoughts and tariffs."
"I have concepts of empathy"
"Concepts of a prayer"
"I AM SO HAPPY TO SEE THAT YOU ARE GETTING EVERYTHING YOU VOTED FOR. I LOVE THIS FOR YOU..."
"I love your videos they’re the bright spot I’ve needed during this administration. Please keep posting when you lose the farm"
"Not my lesson to learn"
"I voted for you... did you vote for you??"

[ProfessorGAC]

70. Thanks

I keep getting a message saying I need to have an account to see more comments.
Your post gave me a flavor of the comments.

[phylny]

61. Gosh, it's almost worth it for me to get a tiktok account just to read the comments!

[eppur_se_muova]

69. Bed. Shat. Lie. nt

[mucholderthandirt]

74. Not a single fuck to give. Not this dude, not any of them. FAFO, people. It's real.