Lawsuit filed to enjoin Elon from accessing Treasury data

[QED]

Good move - Elon and his boy wonders are already in the system so can this kick them out? What about the info they've already harvested? And would Elon comply with a court order? My guess is he'd just sneer at it.

@normeisen.bsky.social is busy. He joins with Public Citizen to sue to enjoin Elon from accessing Treasury data for several unions. Claims violation of Privacy Act and IRS laws.

https://bsky.app/profile/emptywheel.bsky.social/post/3lhcn246tqk2d

Link to filing:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277055/gov.uscourts.dcd.277055.1.0.pdf

[Meowmee]

1. Good!

If he doesn't comply, arrest and jail him.

[GreenWave]

26. How about deporting him to his Tesla out in space?

He could drive back to Earth!

[Bluethroughu]

46. Seize his assets now!

[Meowmee]

48. He made about 100 B on stealing the election!

Seize and freeze all his assets, and arrest him as well. Now is the time before it's too late.

[Think. Again.]

2. Don't we deport criminal immigrants now?

[NotHardly]

6. Right back to S.A. with his ass

[ShazzieB]

13. Unfortunately, he's a naturalized US citizen, so deporting is not that simple.

I don't know hard it is to de-naturalize a naturalized citizen, if it even can be done, or under what circumstances, but I assume it would be complicated.

Much as I'd LOVE to send him back to South Africa (or anywhere else that would take him), it may not even be an option.

[MLWR]

15. He can be stripped of his citizenship.

I don't know the process, but if he has committed a serious crime, it can be accomplished. And then he can be deported.

[Trueblue Texan]

18. He can be indicted, tried, and convicted and then the public might become aware of the danger he poses to our...

financial system.

[ShazzieB]

35. Theoretically, yes.

But like I said, it would probably be complicated. Probably a very long, drawn out process. People have been posting "kick him out" lall over DU, like there would be nothing to it. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work that way, especially with a guy who can afford all the lawyers in the world.

Just trying to inject a note of realism here.

[Think. Again.]

17. Well I guess we'll have to let him live out his dream of settling on Mars then...

....we'll just have to borrow one of his space rockets to get him there.

[dchill]

21. Halfway there would be fine.

[ShazzieB]

33. His rockets don't seem to be working all that well right now.

Not that that is a problem afaic. If it decides to blow up with him in it, I won't be shedding any tears.

(sort of)

[Meowmee]

36. I am sure it would explode or crash first

Like what happened to the last one. Which elunatic found “entertaining”

[Rebl2]

32. Should be

He came on a student visa then dropped out of college almost immediately. He should have been deported at that point.

[dickthegrouch]

41. Brown citizens are deported every day

Because they couldn’t come up with papers fast enough.
I’m sure Musk could be deported for any number of reasons. Problem is that he has the resources to come right back.

[Frasier Balzov]

3. Very nicely crafted complaint.

I hope David A. Lebryk isn't hunted down to intimidate him from giving testimony to the Court.

[happy feet]

4. Good news

I've been wondering who has what recourse.

[Solly Mack]

5. Good!

That man needs to be stopped.

[kentuck]

7. Isn't it a little late?

Hasn't he already done it? With 5-6 young assistants helping to decode the computers?

[QED]

8. Could be

although I'm not sure it matters - Musk won't follow any court order. He's above the law, or so he thinks - but what has caused him to think otherwise?

[stillcool]

28. Isn't it kind of hard to file a lawsuit before anything happens?

[Skittles]

37. HE SHOULD BE ARRESTED

WHAT AUTHORITY DOES HE HAVE, WHAT KIND OF SECURITY CLEARANCE

[speak easy]

43. Who will4 arrest him?

To quote the remarks attributed to Andrew Jackson,
[Chief Justice] John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!

[FakeNoose]

9. Is Musk an employee of the federal government? What's his clearance level?

How is he able to do all this damage without reporting to anyone?
The man needs to be escorted off the property immediately.
He has no authority and he's a lunatic.

[MLWR]

16. He is not employed by the government.

He is employed by orange shitler. Apparently it is (supposed to be) for appr. 100 days. And I'm not sure what happens after that.

[slightlv]

23. I read today that Musk

is a "special government employee"... but I'll lay odds no one researched him for a security clearance -- cause he couldn't get one.

[Deuxcents]

27. Supposedly he's not receiving a monetary salary. His payment is our personal information

[yodermon]

40. Then he can be impeached, no?

Do you have to be an "officer of the United States" to be impeached, or just an employee?

Point of this would be, trump couldn't pardon that.

[Skittles]

38. SERIOUSLY, WTF IS GOING ON

NONE OF THIS IS NORMAL

[ancianita]

10. What we talkin' 'bout!! The lead lawyer is Norman Eisen of the Brookings Institution. Yay!

/s/ Nandan M. Joshi
Nandan M. Joshi (DC Bar No. 456750) Nicolas Sansone (DC Bar No. 1686810) Allison M. Zieve (DC Bar No. 424786) Public Citizen Litigation Group
1600 20th Street NW
Washington, DC 20009
[phone]

Norman L. Eisen (DC Bar No. 435051) State Democracy Defenders Fund
600 Pennsylvania Avenue SE
#15180
19
Washington, DC 20003

Eisen served as CREW's chair of the board and co-counsel on litigation matters.
Eisen was a co-founder of the States United Democracy Center in 2021 and signed a bar complaint against John C. Eastman and an ethics complaint filed against Jenna Ellis for their roles in undermining the 2020 election results

This is IT. More of THIS. Drive the illegal insurgent out, and when they win, file for punitive damages in the sum that meets or exceeds all he's made since his first insurgent move.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norm_Eisen

IT. IS. ON!!

[stillcool]

29. thank you.

[Liberty Belle]

11. Trump may bar the feds from arresting him. Has Musk violated any state crimes?

If so state police could arrest him if a state judge orders it done. He's violated privacy rights nationwide.CA AG Bonta and others, can you also file any state criminal charges?

[allegorical oracle]

12. Nice touch to include the complaint. It's sounds really solid. Now, if it just goes

before a like-minded judge, we all might get somewhere. Fear the necessity of using the courts to protect our rights is going to be constant in our lives for the next couple of years. Then we'll get Dems back in control of Congress, okay?

[brakester]

31. I never forget to thank Biden

when I think of all the judges he pushed through!

[DET]

14. While This Is Good

Do laws and the courts even matter anymore? Won’t Musk just ignore them and steamroll through with his thugs? All bets are off once the shooting begins.

[stillcool]

30. no crystal balls this time around

[johnnyfins]

44. I hate to say it, but we are pretty much out of time

Anyone tries to stop anything and TSF will just gp straight to Martial Law.

[Bettie]

19. They probably already have the data

and will use it whenever Eloon wants to.

[erronis]

20. Petabytes of data were almost instantly transferred to other devices

and taken out of the premises. No way to get it back.

[erronis]

22. I wouldn't be surprised if musk doesn't hold the US gov in a ransomware attack.

"I have all of your data. Now pay me to not release it."

It also wouldn't surprise me if he didn't install some trojan software (no, not condoms) on the treasury systems. Backdoors where he can continue to manipulate us even when he goes back to his home in South Africa (or USSR or ...)

[calimary]

24. Sue the bastard!!!

Musk is The Unelected Power Whore.

[Dem4life1234]

25. I am convinced these oligarchs hate Americans

They literally hate us so much.

Him and Theil aren't even native born Americans.

Imagine having so much money that you are evil enough to do this shit.

[usonian]

34. Apartheid Brothers

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219696928

[Dem4life1234]

39. Reprehensible

[UpInArms]

42. I also believe a class action lawsuit would be in order

for all of those whose data has now been compromised by these pilfering thieves

[reACTIONary]

45. There are three possibilities....

..... access to source code, access to data, and operational control.

- Operational Control:
This would involve making decisions on authorizing or denying a request for payment. I would imagine it would be illegal for DODGY to do this, and whoever is stiffed would know it and have legal records. Authorizing a payment that is not warranted would be a criminal act; it would bee harder to detect but the result would be jail time.

- Data:
Accessing personally identifying data would be illegal.

- Source Code:
This might not be illegal. The organization that DODGY took over was set up to address and correct problems with the ACA web portals during the ACA roll out. So examining source code might be within their portfolio.

[QED]

47. Even if their actions are illegal, who will prosecute?

If they get an injunction from a court, who will enforce it?

[reACTIONary]

49. My guess is, not the ...

... DOJ. Don't know if that deserves a or a

If they don't pay someone who is owed, they will be sued, and that might be enough to get a something of a retreat. Same if they have a data spill - public release of confidential or classified information.

If all they are doing is looking at source code, I don't think anything is going to happen.