Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:25 AM

HiPointDem (20,729 posts)

US murder rate by year, 1900-2010

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US murder rate by year, 1900-2010 (Original post)	HiPointDem	Dec 2012	OP
Interesting graph -very significant changes in rate	LARED	Dec 2012	#1
Roe v. Wade and lead abatement are mentioned a lot	Recursion	Dec 2012	#3
The Freakonomics guys did a lot of statistical analysis on a bunch of variables, including	Squinch	Dec 2012	#9
Also mentioned, the "institutionalization" of the cocaine and	Eleanors38	Dec 2012	#10
Notice that the second hump takes off when the baby boom leaves the house and subsides as they age.	JVS	Dec 2012	#12
Notice " Murders " not deaths, I conclude from these chart's ..	orpupilofnature57	Dec 2012	#2
Well, that's actually the "homicide" rate, so it doesn't change if the person wasn't convicted	Recursion	Dec 2012	#4
I noticed the big drop during the Depression, and	Eleanors38	Dec 2012	#5
That first big drop is World War II	Recursion	Dec 2012	#6
it began at the tale-end of the depression and continued to the mid to late 60s.	HiPointDem	Dec 2012	#8
Bad eyes, small screen.	Eleanors38	Dec 2012	#11
that's the tale-end of the depression and the beginning of ww2. my personal explanation for the	HiPointDem	Dec 2012	#7

Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:32 AM

LARED (11,735 posts)

1. Interesting graph -very significant changes in rate

It would be useful to know what drives the trends

World wide murder rates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

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Response to LARED (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:36 AM

Recursion (51,767 posts)

3. Roe v. Wade and lead abatement are mentioned a lot

Along with locking up a tenth of the young male population.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:46 AM

Squinch (25,469 posts)

9. The Freakonomics guys did a lot of statistical analysis on a bunch of variables, including

incarceration levels and police presence and gun ownership. Nothing correlated with the reduction in murders as well as the effects of Roe v. Wade.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:50 AM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

10. Also mentioned, the "institutionalization" of the cocaine and

crack coke trade; territories and players settled and agreed upon by the dealers. I think the massive jailings (unjust as they are) had a shotgun effect, and rounded up a ton of bad actors. I'd settle with just warehousing the bad actors.

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Response to LARED (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:37 AM

JVS (61,935 posts)

12. Notice that the second hump takes off when the baby boom leaves the house and subsides as they age.

Murdering isn't as easy when you're no longer young and filled with piss and vinegar.

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Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:35 AM

orpupilofnature57 (15,472 posts)

2. Notice " Murders " not deaths, I conclude from these chart's ..

Pot smokers and embezzlers have to get the same lawyers and congressmen as Murderers .

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Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:37 AM

Recursion (51,767 posts)

4. Well, that's actually the "homicide" rate, so it doesn't change if the person wasn't convicted

Homicide as manner of death is determined by a coroner.

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Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:37 AM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

5. I noticed the big drop during the Depression, and

the big drop since '80, during the "punishment" time (a time of relative prosperity). Are there any explanations for both drops which appear to result from diff. phenomena?

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:38 AM

Recursion (51,767 posts)

6. That first big drop is World War II

and has a lot to do with having a bunch of young men (the people who commit murders) overseas rather than in the US

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Response to Recursion (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:45 AM

HiPointDem (20,729 posts)

8. it began at the tale-end of the depression and continued to the mid to late 60s.

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:53 AM

Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)

11. Bad eyes, small screen.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:44 AM

HiPointDem (20,729 posts)

7. that's the tale-end of the depression and the beginning of ww2. my personal explanation for the

recent drop is at the bottom of the page: the high incarceration rate, 2.5 million people in prison & more under various kinds of surveillance (probation etc.)

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