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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA ban for assault weapons are needed now. Let everyone live with revolvers.
No civilians may own an assault rifle. Only law enforcement and military types should have severely limited access to these guns.
Why the fuck do we need an AR-15? An AK-47? What purpose do these guns have except sexual fantasy and insane minds?
There is no need to kill that many people at once.
No need.
Any gungeoner disagrees, then by all means, go stroke your guns some more.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Surely you have a better sound bite that this
get the red out
(13,460 posts)They need to go. No sense in anyone having them.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Good luck.
Lex
(34,108 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)There is zero chance of repealing it. Second, most gunowners are unlikely to voluntarily turn in their guns...so somebody is going to have to go door to door searching for and confiscating weapons. How do you propose this be done, how will it be paid for, and who is going to do it?
Perhaps in your fantasy-land the problem is resolvable by waving a magic wand, but in reality it is a hugely difficult problem... and one not easily solved with 90% of the country divided at polar extremes.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Enforce it as it was meant. You can have muskets. Period.
And your fake hand-wringing and whining is inappropriate today.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)You are mistaking me for a ban all guns nut using today's tragedy for a soapbox.
My position has been clear and consistant. More regulation and oversight of weapons is needed. That is unlikely to be achieved when one group wants completely unrestricted sales and ownership, and another wants to ban every weapon made in the past 150 years. Both groups are part of the problem.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Think before your post, its appropriate
Lex
(34,108 posts)about a magic wand and cowering at the thought that something CAN be done.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Without a drastic re-write of the second amendment. Leaving aside NRA, ALEC, and their lobbyists, most people aren't going to vote for rewriting the second amendment.
So the solution is increased regulation, background checks, limits on private sales, etc. Do you think the gun-owning majority of voters will support that, when one side is screaming to ban every weapon designed in the past 150 years?
former-republican
(2,163 posts)the ban didn't do anything with crime rates committed with firearms
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)<ironic post>
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)what the shooter used was NOT a fully automatic capable weapon-which by the way are already illegal except under very limited circumstances.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)it's not fully automatic weapon, like the AK 47 where you just hold the trigger and go all "Rambo". Those type of weapons with very exceptions are banned from civilian use as they should be. I know people who have AR-15's and they use it like any other rifle, they go the range, some hunt with it. If there is any fantasy it's that guns like the AR-15 look military weapons, but they certainly don't work like them.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)THERE is the true intent of the second amendment.
justanidea
(291 posts)ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Criteria of an assault weapon
Assault weapon (semi-automatic) refers primarily (but not exclusively) to firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle (which are fully-automatic). Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', is not required for classification as an assault weapon; merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant such classification as an assault weapon. Semi-automatic firearms, when fired, automatically extract the spent cartridge casing and load the next cartridge into the chamber, ready to fire again; they do not fire automatically like a machine gun; rather, only one round is fired with each trigger pull.
In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features:
A semi-automatic Yugoslavian M70AB2 rifle.
An Intratec TEC-DC9 with 32-round magazine; a semi-automatic pistol formerly classified as an Assault Weapon under Federal Law.
Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
Detachable magazine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban
There is more information there in regards to high capacity magazines.