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Mike Nelson

(10,455 posts)
1. I think...
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 06:12 AM
Dec 7

... under the present circumstances, it's likely the Ultra-Rich will get their taxes cut, and pubic schools may be lucky to get a sale offer on Trump Bibles. Free lunch will still be available for the needy, but only in the hungry kid can prove they are in the US legally. The war on public education will continue.



joemacdawson

(75 posts)
2. Civil War
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 06:21 AM
Dec 7

It’s already begun. There’s no north south divide. It’s between rich and poor. And the rich always win. Especially when they own the media and defund education. It’ll take generations to rectify. If it’s ever rectified. Maybe a world war to unite a nation. Even then, authoritarians have their man to destroy a once powerful nation. Without firing a bullet.

EarthFirst

(3,377 posts)
6. ...and they've managed to convince fools that with hard work and sacrifice
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 07:39 AM
Dec 7

…that they too can become wealthy; rich and powerful as well!

The sooner they realize that they are just fodder in the fools errand; the better off collectively we all become.

Godot51

(331 posts)
3. Public schools...
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 06:26 AM
Dec 7

... from kindergarten through university should must be fully funded and fully free. We own each generation a chance at the best, most useful and most appropriate education.

This should continue to the students' desired levels or the limit of the students' abilities. Too many fine minds have been wasted by limiting their education due to financial, cultural or social reasons.

In a similar but opposite case, too many undeserving people have received degrees simply because of money, social standing or family ties.

Now, if someone desires to go to a private school of any type and are able to go they may go but they should also pay the fees or be given full scholarships by the institutes.

I've been a teacher for over 45 years and I've always been on the side of the students as much as is possible. It is their lives and futures.

elliesmandt

(16 posts)
4. 44 years
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 07:20 AM
Dec 7

I taught in the public education system for 44 years and never made 70 K per year. My wife, who worked in private industry, and I were able to retire at age 65 after years of frugal living. Teachers deserve more!

Sympthsical

(10,411 posts)
5. Average teacher salary in America is about $70k
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 07:31 AM
Dec 7

Of course, there are variations based on location. A public school teacher in California is making more than a teacher in West Virginia.

Factoring in inflation and cost of living, teachers are making a little less than they did ten years ago.

https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/average-teacher-pay-passes-70k-how-much-is-it-in-your-state/2024/05

RainCaster

(12,040 posts)
18. it's less than half that in Oklahoma
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:18 PM
Dec 7

Every teacher in Oklahoma has to have at least 3 jobs to make ends meet. A friend of mine wasted 10 years there as a teacher before returning to WA.

czarjak

(12,632 posts)
11. Higher wages for the qualified for sure.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 06:28 PM
Dec 7

They are all for quality education for whom they deem worthy. Just like voter suppression.

FarPoint

(13,816 posts)
7. I agree...
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 07:52 AM
Dec 7

Let me ask this....What happens to the State Lottery monies that we were told would go to the school funding? That's why most State Lotteries were approved when placed on the ballot. Yet, defending public schools continue...


a kennedy

(32,701 posts)
13. Ha ha ha, you can't be serious.....sacrifice tax breaks for the ultra rich to make it happen???
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 07:08 PM
Dec 7
You give them more tax breaks, and all you’ll get IS FOR THEM TO GET RICHER!!!!!

Wonder Why

(4,893 posts)
15. If you sacrifice tax breaks for the rich, they don't get the breaks. If you
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 08:07 PM
Dec 7

sacrifice to GIVE them tax breaks, that's a different story.

usonian

(15,648 posts)
16. Unequal (state and local) funding for education is probably the main cause of inequality.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 09:11 PM
Dec 7

Last edited Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:11 PM - Edit history (1)

They say that federal funding will bring "standards" they don't like.

But inequality is their goal.

B.See

(4,306 posts)
17. Public schools? Now you've gone and made me laugh. Here's
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 09:32 PM
Dec 7

the MAGA plan for "public" schools:

Republicans Make Taxpayer-Funded Private School Vouchers for Millionaires a Top Priority Instead of Increasing Teacher Pay and Funding Public Schools | NC Gov. Cooper - NC.gov

Republicans’ big idea for remaking public education hits voter resistance - Politico Texas and Tennessee are among states moving forward with plans to expand taxpayer-funded private school scholarships.

Ohio offers a new way to use public money for Christian schools. Opponents say it’s unconstitutional - AP News

Arizona is sending taxpayer money to religious schools — and billionaires see it as a model for the US - CNN

Conservatives Go to War — Against Each Other — Over School Vouchers - Propublica School choice advocates are intent on expanding the availability of vouchers to fund private education at the expense of public schools, but rural residents of these targeted states are putting up some of the strongest resistance.

(or, "Whoops. In the Process of 'Owning Libs' Conservatives End Up 'Owning' Themselves" )

Kentucky moves a step closer to funding private school tuition - WKMS.org

Iowa lawmakers approves public money for private school students = PBS.org

iemanja

(55,447 posts)
20. How does that fit with abolishing the Dept of Ed
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 01:03 AM
Dec 8

I don’t understand the point of fantasies in this political climate. Nothing decent will be done.

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