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When is it okay to kill a lot of people you are supposed to be helping so you can get rich? (Original Post) onecaliberal Dec 5 OP
In America, every day. Passages Dec 5 #1
OMG, that's horrific but true 😞 arthritisR_US Dec 6 #45
When indeed? Nt XanaDUer2 Dec 5 #2
It's not OK to kill anybody. Ocelot II Dec 5 #3
Self-defense? Killin' not-sees? Happy Hoosier Dec 5 #7
Even Trump, Hitler, Pol Pot???? paleotn Dec 5 #22
I wonder how the gun industry is thinking? arthritisR_US Dec 6 #44
Very good question! I'll wait here for those outraged by the CEO's murder to explain!! Coventina Dec 5 #4
+4 Emile Dec 5 #9
Many stockholders are fine with that Kaleva Dec 6 #43
Well done. Think. Again. Dec 5 #5
Because greedy billionaires bribe corrupt politicians. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #6
Just because it's legal doesn't mean it is moral or ethical maspaha Dec 5 #24
Exactly my point. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #25
In addition, my response is not condoning murder, it is about identifying the culprit(s). Passages Dec 5 #8
⬆⬆⬆THIS⬆⬆⬆ Think. Again. Dec 5 #10
Hit nail square on head. Well done. paleotn Dec 5 #23
Another area that hardly gets mentioned is Workman's Compensation LT Barclay Dec 5 #30
Post removed Post removed Dec 5 #11
You seem nice AZSkiffyGeek Dec 5 #12
Why am I riffing on Groucho Marx? Brother Buzz Dec 5 #13
Who ya gonna believe... markodochartaigh Dec 5 #18
I believe in Lydia the Tattooed Lady Brother Buzz Dec 5 #21
"The Wreck of the Hesperus" markodochartaigh Dec 5 #26
Indeed, and like Groucho said, "You can learn a lot from Lydia." Brother Buzz Dec 5 #29
Had to read it after your comment. Quite a powerful poem. Thanks. LT Barclay Dec 5 #32
You're welcome, markodochartaigh Dec 5 #36
Never .... anciano Dec 5 #14
Now THAT's the right question. Baitball Blogger Dec 5 #15
White collar crime is complicated RANDYWILDMAN Dec 5 #16
It should be illegal. Emile Dec 5 #17
Ding ding ding....NEVER! PortTack Dec 5 #19
Never. AllyCat Dec 5 #20
Karma is rightous, but some forget, she's got a hell of a set of fangs. paleotn Dec 5 #27
NO ONE IS SAYING THAT IS OK Skittles Dec 5 #28
Ridiculous Cirsium Dec 5 #33
what is RIDICULOUS is thinking VIGILANTE JUSTICE is the answer Skittles Dec 5 #35
That is slanderous Cirsium Dec 5 #37
Never. But if you do you might just get shot dead in the street and deserve it. Autumn Dec 5 #31
Good thing the shooter visited Starbucks and dropped his phone. Otherwise Hassler Dec 5 #34
Ah but, there is your mistake Bettie Dec 5 #38
When you believe in the Prosperity Gospel Martin Eden Dec 5 #39
Insurance is not about helping people. Its about creating profit for a few people. milestogo Dec 5 #40
Time to kill off for profit healthcare. Dead to dust! Clouds Passing Dec 5 #41
That has always been okay alarimer Dec 5 #42
... Faux pas Dec 6 #46

paleotn

(19,853 posts)
22. Even Trump, Hitler, Pol Pot????
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:07 PM
Dec 5

Violence is not the 1st answer. It's not even the 38th answer. But it is an answer and the right answer in certain places and at times. Is this one of those times? Maybe. Maybe not. But I do know a bunch of robber barons are watching their backs tonight. And maybe second guessing some of their hubris. That's not a bad thing.

Coventina

(28,096 posts)
4. Very good question! I'll wait here for those outraged by the CEO's murder to explain!!
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 04:36 PM
Dec 5

I look forward to their thoughtful analysis!!

Kaleva

(38,869 posts)
43. Many stockholders are fine with that
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 12:31 AM
Dec 6

They are the people who vote in the board that then hire folks like the murdered CEO.

Maybe what we need is a market crash.

Irish_Dem

(63,087 posts)
6. Because greedy billionaires bribe corrupt politicians.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 04:38 PM
Dec 5

Politicians then make it legal for the billionaires to murder, torture, rob, injure, scam Americans every day.

The best sociopaths don't break the law, they make the law.

maspaha

(422 posts)
24. Just because it's legal doesn't mean it is moral or ethical
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:09 PM
Dec 5

Morals and ethics should be paramount

Passages

(1,715 posts)
8. In addition, my response is not condoning murder, it is about identifying the culprit(s).
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 04:39 PM
Dec 5

"Kill a man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror." -- Jean Rostand

The debt forces many to make difficult sacrifices. Two-thirds of U.S. adults who've incurred health care debt who've had cancer themselves or in their family have cut spending on food, clothing or other household basics, according to a poll conducted by KFF for this project. One in 4 have declared bankruptcy or lost their home.

The financial stress from debt can hinder cancer patients' recovery and even hasten death, researchers have found.


https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/06/16/1104969627/medical-debt-upended-their-lives-heres-what-it-took-from-them#:~:text=The%20debt%20forces%20many%20to,'%22


THE REMEDY IS UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE

LT Barclay

(2,815 posts)
30. Another area that hardly gets mentioned is Workman's Compensation
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:25 PM
Dec 5

States set the rules and often the employer is in charge of the choices of provider and treatment so that many are given substandard care with the only goal being to get them back to work.
Easy fix: universal healthcare

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Skittles

(161,484 posts)
28. NO ONE IS SAYING THAT IS OK
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:14 PM
Dec 5

but WTF since when do we approve of GUN VIOLENCE? Should EVERYONE working in at United Health be targeted? ENOUGH ALREADY.

Cirsium

(1,636 posts)
33. Ridiculous
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:39 PM
Dec 5

The workers at United Health don't make policy. Why would they be targeted? That is a right wing talking point, that somehow we can't oppose the management of predatory companies because the rank and file, or consumers, would be harmed somehow.

Also, people are expressing their disgust with United Health and the health care industry in general. They are also saying that they are not in mourning over this death.

Should people have mourned the death of Reinhard Heydrich? Should the people who were not mourning his death have been accused of promoting violence?

Skittles

(161,484 posts)
35. what is RIDICULOUS is thinking VIGILANTE JUSTICE is the answer
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:43 PM
Dec 5

OPPOSING them is one thing, EXECUTING THEM IN THE STREET IS ENTIRELY ANOTHER - WTF, ENOUGH ALREADY

Cirsium

(1,636 posts)
37. That is slanderous
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:54 PM
Dec 5

I did not and would not say that vigilante justice is the answer.

Organized resistance is the answer.

Hassler

(3,980 posts)
34. Good thing the shooter visited Starbucks and dropped his phone. Otherwise
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:41 PM
Dec 5

The suspect list would be about 50 million people long

Bettie

(17,649 posts)
38. Ah but, there is your mistake
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:58 PM
Dec 5

capitalism means NEVER trying to actually help people.

The job of a health care CEO is to deliver as little care as possible while maintaining an outrageous profit margin so that all of the stockholders get very rich and they can laugh at the people who are foolish enough to believe that our system is set up for health CARE.

Martin Eden

(13,747 posts)
39. When you believe in the Prosperity Gospel
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 07:36 PM
Dec 5

God has blessed you.

Doesn't matter how you gathered your wealth.

milestogo

(19,038 posts)
40. Insurance is not about helping people. Its about creating profit for a few people.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:29 PM
Dec 5

And therein lies the problem. It can't work.

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