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senseandsensibility

(21,363 posts)
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 05:38 PM Nov 2024

Do you agree with this post by Ron Filipkowski on BlueSky about Biden?

"I got to admit it, it makes me f*cking furious that MAGA is already out in front of blaming an upcoming spike in egg prices on bird flu when the Biden Admin was NEVER out in front of these things & just took punches to the face without ever seeing those punches coming."

Something to be said for that I think. That's part of the reason people thought a generally good economy was horrible.

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Do you agree with this post by Ron Filipkowski on BlueSky about Biden? (Original Post) senseandsensibility Nov 2024 OP
While Biden was shamed by the MSN every time crud Nov 2024 #1
Agree with him, but honestly, the economy in Oklahoma HAS been crap since 2016 Runningdawg Nov 2024 #2
Is it... 2naSalit Nov 2024 #3
He posted the same thing on Twitter Emrys Nov 2024 #5
Thanks... 2naSalit Nov 2024 #8
Trump and MAGAGOP have the biggest and most sophisticated propaganda operations... Hekate Nov 2024 #4
Which those on the left refuse to counter Tumbulu Nov 2024 #11
No. there were people doing this but we are told voters got offended JI7 Nov 2024 #6
Their media refused to ever Tesha Nov 2024 #7
Agree. Trekologer Nov 2024 #9
Okay, so Biden supposedly "wasn't in front" of this Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #10
What the administration should have done is held regular press briefings on the situation Trekologer Nov 2024 #21
What people should have done was get off their asses Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #23
Biden is a decent, honest man... Happy Hoosier Nov 2024 #12
Our messaging sucks because our media sucks. unblock Nov 2024 #13
I think it Depends on your news sources. Raven123 Nov 2024 #14
THey got blamed for inflation that began with Trump STIM in April 2020 bucolic_frolic Nov 2024 #15
Very good points SlimJimmy Nov 2024 #20
I saw/read many stories about the bird flu. The CDC was putting out reports. But allegorical oracle Nov 2024 #16
I am not sure Meowmee Nov 2024 #17
Our leaders are absent today with everything that's going on oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #18
Wouldn't work. Democratic reasons are excuses, republican excuses are reasons... Wounded Bear Nov 2024 #19
Thanks fox lies Tribetime Nov 2024 #22

crud

(934 posts)
1. While Biden was shamed by the MSN every time
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 05:47 PM
Nov 2024

they talked about an improving economy, they did no such shaming of TSF when he said we had the best economy in the history of the universe.

They said the Biden Admin was out of touch. Bidenomics was a joke. They said all improvements were just on paper, didn't affect peoples kitchen table pocket books. People weren't feeling it. etc.

Runningdawg

(4,634 posts)
2. Agree with him, but honestly, the economy in Oklahoma HAS been crap since 2016
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 05:48 PM
Nov 2024

The time for Biden and ALL Democrats to start talking about it was campaigning for 2020 and every day up until 2024.

2naSalit

(96,156 posts)
8. Thanks...
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 06:18 PM
Nov 2024

But I don't do xitter.

Just wondering, like I said, doesn't sound like him.

Hekate

(96,799 posts)
4. Trump and MAGAGOP have the biggest and most sophisticated propaganda operations...
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 05:52 PM
Nov 2024

…in the history of the world.

That’s what I think.

Tumbulu

(6,508 posts)
11. Which those on the left refuse to counter
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 06:19 PM
Nov 2024

35+ years of “rising above” is just plain outrageously bizarre.

I have to wonder why it is that the powerful folks at the top of the party continue to behave in such a way that appears so very out of touch, at least from where I sit.



Tesha

(21,006 posts)
7. Their media refused to ever
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 06:15 PM
Nov 2024

Have a good word for Biden and the thousand ways he saved our country

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
10. Okay, so Biden supposedly "wasn't in front" of this
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 06:19 PM
Nov 2024

But when he and Harris tried to explain how prices were coming down and we have the best post-covid economy in the world, it was "HOW DARE YOU LECTURE TO AMERICANS HOW GOOD THIS ECONOMY IS WHEN NOBODY CAN AFFORD GROCERIES ANYMORE!!!!!!111111!!!!"

So I really wish folks would make up their minds 😐

Trekologer

(1,075 posts)
21. What the administration should have done is held regular press briefings on the situation
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 11:37 PM
Nov 2024

If the media didn't cover it, Biden should have gone down to the briefing room himself to force the press to cover it and then hand it over to the secretary of agriculture or whoever was the most qualified to talk about it.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
23. What people should have done was get off their asses
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 11:47 PM
Nov 2024

And voted for Harris... There was tons of factual information out there, all people had to do was read...

Besides, a Biden presser gets maybe five minutes of coverage before the cable news channels switch over to Donnie's latest episode of fuckwittery...

Happy Hoosier

(8,824 posts)
12. Biden is a decent, honest man...
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 06:21 PM
Nov 2024

… and he wants to believe others are also decent and kind, to his detriment.

unblock

(54,793 posts)
13. Our messaging sucks because our media sucks.
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 06:22 PM
Nov 2024

They collectively shrugged their shoulders and presented a convicted criminal, rapist, fraudster who stole and openly shared classified information as a perfectly viable candidate.

This after having raked Hillary over the coals for having a private server, insisting that even an indictment would be career-ending and disqualifying for a presidential candidate.


Democrats can and have said great things, great messaging, it gets on air once maybe and then "has no legs" and the media moves on. But they jump on republicans messaging, discuss it at length, ask democrats to respond to it, no matter how ridiculous or even outright false.


The right wing is "out in front" on every issue rhetorically because they've spent decades investing in and corrupting our media.

No one democrat can counter that with any message, no matter how great. Until we have a strong, well-funded, coordinated media strategy, starting with, among other things, a very loud and consistent theme that the media has a ridiculously right-wing bias, that foxnews and others are outright propaganda, etc., then our messaging on individual issues will continue to go nowhere and always be behind the right-wing noise.

Raven123

(6,492 posts)
14. I think it Depends on your news sources.
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 07:24 PM
Nov 2024

It is tru, the Biden administration didn’t shout from the rooftops, and now we know they should have, but the information was in the MSM.

I was fully aware. My MAGA neighbor was clueless.

bucolic_frolic

(49,286 posts)
15. THey got blamed for inflation that began with Trump STIM in April 2020
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 07:42 PM
Nov 2024

and never answered. Inflation Reduction Act was their go to. But deficits and low interest rates from 2009 to 2022 were the deep roots. Too much money chasing too few goods, pandemic supply chain and production gaps, retailer uncertainty in rising wages. It all contributed.

allegorical oracle

(4,363 posts)
16. I saw/read many stories about the bird flu. The CDC was putting out reports. But
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 07:47 PM
Nov 2024

would agree that the Biden Admin. tended to keep a bit of a low profile...didn't blow its own horn much.

Meowmee

(7,891 posts)
17. I am not sure
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 07:48 PM
Nov 2024

Last edited Sat Nov 23, 2024, 08:21 PM - Edit history (1)

I did not watch a lot of news, but I did watch some the past year and a half. I think the promotion of what they were doing, etc. for the economy and for other issues always needs to be double or triple over of what the other side does.

oldmanlynn

(624 posts)
18. Our leaders are absent today with everything that's going on
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 07:56 PM
Nov 2024

I don’t hardly see any Democrats getting out there and talking about the crazy and all that other stuff right now today. It’s like they’re in hiding, licking their wounds.

Wounded Bear

(61,563 posts)
19. Wouldn't work. Democratic reasons are excuses, republican excuses are reasons...
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 08:06 PM
Nov 2024

Can't fight MAGA logic.

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