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Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
1. hardly anti-union
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 04:27 PM
Jan 2012

this just goes to show that there was a time when being Union was the most viable path to a comfortable standard of living for most Americans




Oh, wait.....



It still is

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
2. They're saying the union people are lazy, overpaid and LATE. Ironically
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 04:36 PM
Jan 2012

I encountered all these problems more with non-union people...

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
6. the Flintstones ran from from 1960-1966 and
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 04:48 PM
Jan 2012

in those years union workers made up anywhere from 28.5% to 30.4% of the workforce.

With those kinds of numbers I think everyone was aware that this was just a joke on a cartoon.



http://www.workinglife.org/wiki/Union+Membership:+Overall+(1948-2004)



edit to add


I just found the whole episode online and it looks like Fred decides to do the work himself and they screw everything up. It would seem that the plot line requires a reason to not do union labor. Maybe one scene taken out of context shouldn't be taken as a serious attack on unions.

http://www.cartoonlair.com/the-flintstones/6x02-the-house-that-fred-built-video_147b7502d.html

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
9. They are just commenting on the cost of Plumbers. It's because they have a union that they are well
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 05:01 PM
Jan 2012

compensated yes, but it is more of a comment on how well plumbers are valued.Plumbers are still expensive.It doesn't say they are lazy.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
3. Definitely does seem anti-union, not only that it pits middle class vs middle class
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 04:38 PM
Jan 2012

As if $20/hr is something to be envious about while there are people who wipe their asses with $100 bills they didn't do a lick of labor for laughing at those who make $20/hr.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
7. Yeah but it really wasn't a TON of cash. Sure, they got paid a good wage for their hard work.
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jan 2012

I thought that was the American Dream, a good wage for honest hard work. Even in the 60's that was a good middle class income but far from rich like this episode is making it to be. On the other hand I agree with Johnny, it makes unionism in that aspect seem like a good encouraging thing to achieve.

trackfan

(3,650 posts)
10. In th 60s, if someone made $20,000 a year, or about $10 an hour,
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 05:01 PM
Jan 2012

he would have been considered to have been upper middle class. My dad made $4.52 an hour in 1971, and that was the TOP of the scale for the most senior non-management employees at his plant. $40,000 a year would have been an incredible wage in the 60s. Our house cost $11,000; The houses on the "rich" street in town (part of Los Angeles) went for $30-40,000.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
11. I don't know. My mother bought her house in the Bronx in 1971 for $43,000 and it's
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 05:11 PM
Jan 2012

A semi-attached in THE BRONX not far from a swampy area (that has since been built on). All I'm saying is that $20/hr for a day of physical labor is a GOOD income but there were also PLENTY of millionaires back that would laugh at $20/hr. Plus, that $20/hr could be going towards their pension/annuity/out of work fund.

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