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Human Empathy & Interconnectedness - Joseph Campbell - 1986 (Original Post) Uncle Joe Oct 2024 OP
I have always loved this segment! ananda Oct 2024 #1
Thanks for posting. I have the entire DVD collection and every time I watch and listen I learn in2herbs Oct 2024 #2
THANK YOU! KSNY Oct 2024 #3
Some more priceless bits from Schopenhauer pat_k Oct 2024 #4

ananda

(31,708 posts)
1. I have always loved this segment!
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 09:08 PM
Oct 2024

And I firmly believe in holism.

It drives my whole view of the world
and other humans.

I remember David Bohm writing that
the way we see the world mechanistically,
as though we are parts of a whole, is
fundamentally mistaken and explains
why it leads to so much chaos and
destruction.

There is also a great book called Blackfoot
Physics that gives us a great look at how
the Native Americans lived their lives
with holism as a basic assumption.

John Steinbeck also dealt with this theme
in The Grapes of Wrath, mainly through
the character of Jim Casy.

That was the actualy turning point for me
towards think of the world in a whole
different way.

I love these ideas.

in2herbs

(3,702 posts)
2. Thanks for posting. I have the entire DVD collection and every time I watch and listen I learn
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 09:09 PM
Oct 2024

something new.

pat_k

(11,189 posts)
4. Some more priceless bits from Schopenhauer
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 09:35 PM
Oct 2024

From The Basis of Morality

Page 214

Boundless compassion for all living beings is the surest and most certain guarantee of pure moral conduct, and needs no casuistry. Whoever is filled with it will assuredly injure no one, do harm to no one, encroach on no man's rights; he will rather have regard for every one, forgive every one, help every one as far as he can, and all his actions will bear the stamp of justice and loving-kindness.


Page 277

The preponderance of either mode of viewing life not only determines single acts; it shapes a man's whole nature and temperament. Hence the radical difference of mental habit between the good character and the bad.

The latter feels everywhere that a thick wall of partition hedges him off from all others. For him the world is an absolute non-ego, and his relation to it an essentially hostile one; consequently, the key-note of his disposition is hatred, suspicion, envy, and pleasure in seeing distress.

The good character, on the other hand, lives in an external world homogeneous with his own being; the rest of mankind is not in his eyes a non-ego; he thinks of it rather as "myself once more." He therefore stands on an essentially amicable footing with every one: he is conscious of being, in his inmost nature, akin to the whole human race, takes direct interest in their weal and woe, and confidently assumes in their case the same interest in him. This is the source of his deep inward peace, and of that happy, calm, contented manner, which goes out on those around him, and is as the "presence of a good diffused."

Whereas the bad character in time of trouble has no trust in the help of his fellow-creatures. If he invokes aid, he does so without confidence: obtained, he feels no real gratitude for it; because he can hardly discern therein anything but the effect of others' folly. For he is simply incapable of recognising his own self in some one else; and this, even after it has furnished the most incontestible signs of existence in that other person: on which fact the repulsive nature of all unthankfulness in reality depends. The moral isolation, which thus naturally and inevitably encompasses the bad man, is often the cause of his becoming the victim of despair.

The good man, on the contrary, will appeal to his neighbours for assistance, with an assurance equal to the consciousness he has of being ready himself to help them. As I have said: to the one type, humanity is a non-ego; to the other, "myself once more." The magnanimous character, who forgives his enemy, and returns good for evil, rises to the sublime, and receives the highest meed of praise; because he recognises his real self even there where it is most conspicuously disowned.


As I read the following bit, DT's "suckers and losers" echoed in my head:

"he feels no real gratitude for it; because he can hardly discern therein anything but the effect of others' folly. "



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