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kpete

(72,895 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:41 AM Oct 2024

Overlooked by a lot of people in Jack Smith's filing: Trump used burner phone to pressure election officials

G) Trump called the Michigan speaker, on an unofficial line marked "Spam Risk Egypt" to discuss fraud allegations. Proving he tried to cover his tracks, and these were not protected "official acts"

-Trump used a burner phone, routed through a foreign country to contact Michigan house speaker.

-He tried to pressure the speaker in this off book call.

-Speaker McCarthy knew about the burner phone line.

-The phone showed up as “Spam Risk Egypt” on caller ID.

If the President thought his attempt to overturn the election and forge elector documents were legitimate “official acts” why was he using an insecure, foreign routed burner phone for these calls?

How many other sensitive calls did the former President have on this unencrypted line with coconspirators, that could now be used as blackmail against him, by any foreign nation which may have tapped that line?

(And before the reply bots get here, let me remind them: Trump’s own legal team did not dispute the authenticity of *anything* unsealed from the Smith filing)


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Overlooked by a lot of people in Jack Smith's filing: Trump used burner phone to pressure election officials (Original Post) kpete Oct 2024 OP
Treasonous G.O.P. slimeballs attacking American democracy BoRaGard Oct 2024 #1
WWJD? BoRaGard Oct 2024 #6
Or "What Would Justice Do" - Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Coney-Barret, Gorsuch, BeerBongBoy erronis Oct 2024 #11
Posers. My daughter is one. onecaliberal Oct 2024 #13
Because honest dealings are always done by burner phones. MaryMagdaline Oct 2024 #2
THAT is a very interesting question and a very damning reveal. msfiddlestix Oct 2024 #3
Wasn't the reporting that he had a bag of burner phones labeled for use?? bullimiami Oct 2024 #4
Kinda ruins any chance he may have had of trying to argue these were "official acts", doesn't it? Wiz Imp Oct 2024 #5
Low life criminal coward dalton99a Oct 2024 #7
When it absolutely, positively needs to be there and then disappeared, burner phone. DJ Porkchop Oct 2024 #8
So the call was routed through Egypt? yardwork Oct 2024 #9
Was this the same Egypt that gave trump 10 million dollars? n/t Paper Roses Oct 2024 #27
Interesting, huh? yardwork Oct 2024 #33
Cochran thinks it's VERY interesting. Did you see his other post?... Native Oct 2024 #36
That was $10 million in real cash SupportSanity Oct 2024 #43
Jesus moved to Canada. rubbersole Oct 2024 #29
Trump and his ilk are reprehensible trash. NotHardly Oct 2024 #10
Which reminds me of 2 unanswered "Russia, Russia, Russia" questions William Seger Oct 2024 #12
That's how all non-criminals conduct their non-criminal business, of course. Orrex Oct 2024 #14
I just bought a whole bunch from this guy ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2024 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2024 #16
Not sure "official Presidential duties " are done using a burner phone surfered Oct 2024 #17
Just like the burner phones that Trump's Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows, and others used before .. Botany Oct 2024 #18
Spam Risk Egypt ▶️ Threat Level Midnight LessAspin Oct 2024 #19
Egypt LessAspin Oct 2024 #24
I bet that $10M came from Putin, via Egypt. yardwork Oct 2024 #34
Criminal Law 101: the act "betrays a consciousness of guilt". Texin Oct 2024 #20
But will the Royal Subversive Court issue an edict that the phones became official by his touch? Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2024 #37
Really! And did the President go to Best Buy in disguise to pick it up? bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #21
Thank God for Jack Smith! Mme. Defarge Oct 2024 #22
I wonder if there is any connection to Egypt and ten million dollars not a texan Oct 2024 #23
It doesnt matter HagathaCrispy Oct 2024 #25
Everyone knows only honest people use burner phones. Kid Berwyn Oct 2024 #26
I think this has been forgotten but during Trumps time there were a lot of spy cell sites in DC (called Stingers) LiberalArkie Oct 2024 #28
Also remember how they wanted a "back door" moniss Oct 2024 #30
The thing about the documents is, jmowreader Oct 2024 #41
Possibly and we are not moniss Oct 2024 #42
I bet the emtire Organized Crime Party had burner phones to communicate and conspire with fellow OCP members. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2024 #31
He's a traitor, but we can't get him for treason... Joinfortmill Oct 2024 #32
Remember how he claimed that he didn't know about "burner phones"? Blue Owl Oct 2024 #35
Who all knew about the Spam Risk Egypt burner phone? LiberalFighter Oct 2024 #38
Of course he did. That's what crooks do. mdbl Oct 2024 #39
TFG uses a burner phone ... But Harris has to be Flawless uponit7771 Oct 2024 #40

BoRaGard

(3,817 posts)
1. Treasonous G.O.P. slimeballs attacking American democracy
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:44 AM
Oct 2024

Using a fugging thuggy burner phone to try and overthrow the lawful government of the USA.

Republicons will rot in political Hell for their betrayal of our great nation.

BoRaGard

(3,817 posts)
6. WWJD?
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:50 AM
Oct 2024

What Would Jesus Do?

Would Jesus use a burner phone to try and deceive people about who he is conspiring with?

(Asking for all the Republicans who consider themselves to be Christians)

erronis

(17,593 posts)
11. Or "What Would Justice Do" - Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Coney-Barret, Gorsuch, BeerBongBoy
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:31 AM
Oct 2024

When this wends its way to the final arbiters of 'justice'. They know best.

MaryMagdaline

(7,931 posts)
2. Because honest dealings are always done by burner phones.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:45 AM
Oct 2024

Excellent evidence BTW that these actions were personal, not in the course and scope of presidential activity.

bullimiami

(14,012 posts)
4. Wasn't the reporting that he had a bag of burner phones labeled for use??
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:45 AM
Oct 2024

Criminal behavior much?

Wiz Imp

(3,343 posts)
5. Kinda ruins any chance he may have had of trying to argue these were "official acts", doesn't it?
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:49 AM
Oct 2024

DJ Porkchop

(635 posts)
8. When it absolutely, positively needs to be there and then disappeared, burner phone.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:19 AM
Oct 2024


Trump's whole life plays out like an 80's mob movie.

yardwork

(65,288 posts)
9. So the call was routed through Egypt?
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:19 AM
Oct 2024

And it was a fishy line, so fishy even the burner phone showed it as a spam risk?

The president of the United States used a burner phone and an insecure line routed through a foreign nation to pressure state officials to commit fraud in order to steal an election.

And half the country is voting for him again.

Jesus wept.

William Seger

(11,281 posts)
12. Which reminds me of 2 unanswered "Russia, Russia, Russia" questions
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:42 AM
Oct 2024

1. Why were they trying to set up an unmonitored private communication channel to the Kremlin?

2. Why was a Trump business computer communicating with a Russian bank computer?

Response to Orrex (Reply #14)

Botany

(73,043 posts)
18. Just like the burner phones that Trump's Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows, and others used before ..
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:08 AM
Oct 2024

…. and during Jan. 6th. They knew they were breaking the law in an attempted
violent coup to overthrow the government. Trump is a life long career criminal.

Why is this election even close?

Btw in 2016 long before the election McCarthy was well aware of the Trump/Russia connections.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/paul-ryan-keeps-it-family-kevin-mccarthy-russia-trump

LessAspin

(1,473 posts)
19. Spam Risk Egypt ▶️ Threat Level Midnight
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:13 AM
Oct 2024
Seems Trump used a burner phone with a coded number to make his calls leaning on state officials to change election results.

fmr Michigan state Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey says he was given a heads up by the state house speaker that Trump might call him and that it would show up on his phone as "Spam risk Egypt."










Spam Risk Egypt = Threat Level Midnight https://www.democraticunderground.com/10588883

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217510149

LessAspin

(1,473 posts)
24. Egypt
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:48 AM
Oct 2024

Interesting side note to this is that since it was first reported a few years ago we have learned that Egypt gave the Trump campaign $10 million in 2016 to keep afloat..












Texin

(2,685 posts)
20. Criminal Law 101: the act "betrays a consciousness of guilt".
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:30 AM
Oct 2024

He knew he was acting outside the bounds of his "official" executive privileges and suborning unlawful acts on behalf of election officials, some of whom were elected state officials in executive seats.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
37. But will the Royal Subversive Court issue an edict that the phones became official by his touch?
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 05:38 PM
Oct 2024

Robber Baron Roberts, Slimey Sammy, Corrupt Thomas, Gorey Sucker, Coathanger Barret, and Beer Bong Weenie Waver may be looking for yet another way to protect their favorite Heritage Foundation stooge.

We need a blue Congress and blue Executive to excise some cancer in our Judiciary.

bucolic_frolic

(48,369 posts)
21. Really! And did the President go to Best Buy in disguise to pick it up?
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:44 AM
Oct 2024

No? So his IT and political minions arranged this for him? Because he can hardly dial let alone understand tech?

I see. A lot of people involved on this one.

not a texan

(56 posts)
23. I wonder if there is any connection to Egypt and ten million dollars
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:46 AM
Oct 2024

I remember not too long ago there was an issue of $10,000,000 coming from Egypt. It is just so difficult to even try and track all his failures and crimes. I don't know if there is any connection, but why would you route calls through Egypt of all places?

 

HagathaCrispy

(154 posts)
25. It doesnt matter
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:53 AM
Oct 2024

Donald Trump could rape and torture someone's toddler in front of them, and bust it's head on a rail road track and the mother and father would mortgage their house for his Trumps legal defense fund.

Kid Berwyn

(18,996 posts)
26. Everyone knows only honest people use burner phones.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:58 AM
Oct 2024

Them, and frauds. Frauds use burner phones, too. And crooks. Crooks use burner phones, too. And traitors! Traitors especially use burner phones.

LiberalArkie

(17,168 posts)
28. I think this has been forgotten but during Trumps time there were a lot of spy cell sites in DC (called Stingers)
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 12:03 PM
Oct 2024

Here is just one article. Unless a person was very careful, more than likely every organization and government in the world knew what was been said and who was banging who.


https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/dhs-to-senator-malicious-use-of-stingrays-is-a-real-and-growing-risk/

moniss

(6,425 posts)
30. Also remember how they wanted a "back door"
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 12:09 PM
Oct 2024

communication network during the Years of Darkness, aka 2016-2021, and we kind of thought because it became public knowledge that they didn't do it? I'm willing to bet they did establish one with the help of Putin. Despite him being brazen about making calls to Putin using his personal phone it does not mean that was the only line of communication. Putin was not about to get into details etc. over someone's personal phone.

There's no way that someone as ignorant of matters as the Orange Ruski knew on his own which documents to grab as he left. Someone was working on the "list" and there is no way the "job" was discussed in a manner open to US Intel detection.

jmowreader

(51,791 posts)
41. The thing about the documents is,
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 07:35 AM
Oct 2024

We will NEVER know the full extent of what he took. If you think what the FBI pulled out of Mar-a-Lago is all of it...think the fuck again.

moniss

(6,425 posts)
42. Possibly and we are not
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 11:41 AM
Oct 2024

being made privy to any kind of tracking/sign-out system that any of the agencies were using if any. We do know there are folders that were now empty. We are not privy to how specific the folder codes are to the document beyond level of classification. In other words does part of the code indicate missile defense etc.? With the extremely lax SS presence at Mar-Ugh-Ghastly we have no idea who all came and went and when or if they came with nothing but left with boxes or big packages. Remember the woman they found wandering around the place and nobody had track of her although she had been spotted roaming around for hours?

OAITW r.2.0

(29,263 posts)
31. I bet the emtire Organized Crime Party had burner phones to communicate and conspire with fellow OCP members.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 12:32 PM
Oct 2024

Joinfortmill

(17,073 posts)
32. He's a traitor, but we can't get him for treason...
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 12:42 PM
Oct 2024

He's committed espionage, but we can't get him for that. Eventually we will bring this m*fucker down, but it won't be for his worst acts. I suspect we won't ever learn what his worst acts actually were.

Blue Owl

(55,189 posts)
35. Remember how he claimed that he didn't know about "burner phones"?
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 12:53 PM
Oct 2024

Just another lie — everything he says is a fucking lie

LiberalFighter

(53,541 posts)
38. Who all knew about the Spam Risk Egypt burner phone?
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 07:17 PM
Oct 2024

Who helped him get and set up the burner phone(s)?

When were burner phones set up?

Did anyone else have burner phones under direction of Trump?

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