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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMelania defends her nude modeling as "fine art"
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Picture of Melania's fine art jacket she wore as flotus to the border during family separation controversy that said on back, "I don't care, do u?"
Former flotus dropped a video today defending her nude photo work.
She's trying to sell book.
She won't let Looney Loomer replace her.
Real problem is photo shoot done in NYC possibly before HB-1 visa was in effect.
OK for Melania to have posed nude, but not ok for another former flotus to have worn a sleeveless outfit? Will Maga Mike have to report to his son if he reads Melania's book?
Johnny2X2X
(22,033 posts)One nude shoot was lesbian simulated sex. And another, the most famous set of pics were shot to make the shadows seem as if she was urinating while fully nude. Won't post them, but the one set it's clear they were going for full frontal urination complete with her fondling her privates with her fingers.
High art my ass, it was soft core porn with a gross twist.
BootinUp
(49,220 posts)Linda ladeewolf
(551 posts)It was gross!
Johnny2X2X
(22,033 posts)Yeah, they were raunchy photos. I don't begrudge anyone for what they do to make money, but don't pretend these were tasteful.
Linda ladeewolf
(551 posts)With her hand holding a narrow strip of what looked like sparkly toilet paper to her privates. (Im being nice!)
Johnny2X2X
(22,033 posts)These are all phots that have been verified and have been public for years. If you show them to a MAGA, they will claim they are fake.
She was here illegally, working illegally, as a softcore porn star and escort. That's how she met Trump, Jeff Epstein introduced them.
Dave Bowman
(4,220 posts)And the moment Lardo Loco saw this he fell in love.
Mad_Dem_X
(9,837 posts)Proof that she has always been low-class.
Freethinker65
(11,167 posts)The honey trap worked brilliantly, except she got stuck with a bloated gluttonous media obsessed braggart. Not only was she required to service him in private, but she had to service him in public in front of an entire Nation, many endlessly making fun of her. At least she got citizenship for her parents and kidney surgery out of it.
birdographer
(2,554 posts)and exercise regimen and assumed he would be dead LONG ago, and she would have $$$. And now, 8+ years later, HE'S STILL HERE.
Traildogbob
(10,401 posts)Reason to not be pissed about her ridiculous fame. Her long game did not work out. Now she is the sucker and loser that while pregnant and after he snuggly fucked other women, now he is throwing the Loon in her face, and not a thing she can do.
By the time he dies, she will be a washed up old lady, that was shut out of his will.
But tons of Bubba MAGAs will be willing to do her.
Maybe Murdock will be divorced by then.
Being Best!
mercuryblues
(15,366 posts)Trump hasn't already pumped her out to Murdoch?
Now she's to old even for him.
Traildogbob
(10,401 posts)May be compensation for unlimited air time.
erronis
(17,437 posts)3Hotdogs
(13,744 posts)Well, maybe his head ain't all here....
usaf-vet
(7,149 posts)Is Baron in agreement with Mom's artist photos? I'll bet his male peers see it in a different light.
Trueblue1968
(18,379 posts)Coventina
(28,064 posts)I don't judge people doing nudies or porn. But at least have the self-respect to own it.
Like Madonna who famously said: So what?
B.See
(4,162 posts)couldn't give a flying fk what Melania has done. Far more concerned with what the sick fk PSYCHOPATH l)has done, said, and WILL DO.
Baitball Blogger
(48,820 posts)So not suitable for Florida Republicans.
MLAA
(18,788 posts)Former First Lady, youre no David
Cite: "Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy" was a remark made during the 1988 United States vice presidential debate by Democratic nominee Senator Lloyd Bentsen to Republican nominee Senator Dan Quayle in response to Quayle's comparison of his experience in Congress to that of John F.
ProudMNDemocrat
(19,308 posts)BE BEST and stay away Melania! Have some dignity for once.
erronis
(17,437 posts)BattleRow
(1,263 posts)Perhaps this is "high" art..if you get my drift..er..whiff...
republianmushroom
(18,579 posts)Some videos are full action and not posing.
With her book make red states school libraries ?
Kid Berwyn
(18,798 posts)"Are you certain ziss iss vay zey dancing at Supermodel Academy, Done-old?"
Hekate
(95,757 posts)Vinca
(51,425 posts)that unless you pander to a bunch of homophobic faux Christians.
allegorical oracle
(3,709 posts)"Gentlemen's Magazine." It featured what appeared to be two audition nude photos, one full-front and one profile. She looked stiff, uncomfortable, haggard and shiny-slick with oil. The other photo was her in bed embracing another woman.
As an oil painter, I have no problem with nudes of any sort. IMO, her photos were far from art -- nothing sensual or beautiful -- just exploitive. But she may have needed the money at that time.
50 Shades Of Blue
(11,041 posts)But it's still hilarious that Melania has such a high opinion of herself that she's comparing her suggestive nude poses, including with another woman - and with herself, too! - with acclaimed works of classical art.
The Third Doctor
(403 posts)Last edited Thu Oct 3, 2024, 01:50 AM - Edit history (1)
It's interesting that the evangelicals can overlook this but judge everyone else.
Quanto Magnus
(1,054 posts)they just want to use it as a cudgel on their opponents/enemies
3catwoman3
(25,953 posts)Why these sleazy pictures were not disqualifying for evangelicals is completely mystifying.
RockRaven
(16,663 posts)Just own it, cut the bullshit.
Oopsie Daisy
(4,846 posts)Fullduplexxx
(8,401 posts)Solly Mack
(93,436 posts)Johonny
(22,559 posts)DeepWinter
(734 posts)The nude female form has been honored and depicted in art since humans could sculpt and draw.
Getting a big LULZ out of DU today.
RussBLib
(9,754 posts)...while suppressing the fuck out of them. Oh, the Humanity!
https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1
dpibel
(3,485 posts)I mean, dude. Any depiction of anything is automatically fine art, right?
The point is not that Melania did nekkid pics. It's that trying to say her pics are veritable works of the classic artists is risible.
Michelangelo's David is fine art. The Callipygian Venus is fine art.
Melania, your photographic output, like your husband, is trash.
Sneederbunk
(15,525 posts)Abolishinist
(2,123 posts)I'm sure there's something in the Bible about this. A good yard sign in front of an evangelical church, perhaps?
ShazzieB
(19,124 posts)Neither one of them looks like her to me. I mean, if I had to guess, I'd pick the one on the right, but if you showed me this picture cold and asked me if I recognized either of these women, I'd have to say no. Evidence of excessive plastic surgery, maybe?
niyad
(121,446 posts)of cosmetic surgery. Personally, I think she looked better in the "before" images.
Abolishinist
(2,123 posts)And I have to disagree with niyad, I think she looks much better now.
dalton99a
(85,489 posts)Dancing extra
get the red out
(13,660 posts)Michele Obama showed her SHOULDERS!
PedroXimenez
(643 posts)the RWers just like to play victim.
CincyDem
(6,966 posts)At its core, she shouldn't have to "defend" anything about the nude images. Her body her choice is, IMHO, about more than just women's health care.
HB-1 violation: go for it.
Being a 2-faced sugar daddy chasing reichwinger: go for it.
What she did to the Rose Garden: definitely go for it.
But, again IMHO, if she decided to do nude modeling work, I say her choice. I don't agree with the choice but it's not up to me.
To steal paraphrase: If you don't like nude images...don't be in nude images.
brush
(58,492 posts)What she did was porn, not fine art. No even close, I don't care what she contends.
CincyDem
(6,966 posts)I'm old enough to remember when we hailed a hard (hard) core porn star for violating her NDA, forcing that issue to court and winning and then sitting in NYC courtroom facing off against TFG. I don't, however, remember any conversation from our side dismissing her testimony because of the work she decided to do.
I'm not defending the content fine art, fine porn, or anything...just saying her body, her choice.
niyad
(121,446 posts)model. It interests me that she felt the neeed to do so. My only problem is with her apparently getting an Einstein visa out of it. "significant contribution" my . . .
FreeState
(10,701 posts)(Photo's not figure drawings)
For me it comes down to why the photos were produced and who the intended audience is.
brush
(58,492 posts)actual artist would call porn photos fine art.
In fact, it's beyond the pale,
Also see post 72.
Porn/erotica is fine for those who desire it, but let's be clear, it's not fine art.
It all depends on who the intended audience is and what the intended use is. One thing no one has mentioned in this whole thread is where the pictures were published or why they were taken. (Edit to add it was Max a French fashion and lifestyle magazine - not a porn magazine).
Fine art refers to a creative art form primarily focused on aesthetic value, expression, and intellectual engagement, rather than practical or functional use.
It is often contrasted with applied or commercial arts, where art may serve a more utilitarian or mass-production purpose. Fine art is usually associated with works intended for galleries, museums, and private collections, representing cultural, historical, or personal significance.
brush
(58,492 posts)It's not fine art. Actual artists tend to fiercely defend what is elevated to fine art as it's our stock and trade, so years later Melanoma can try all of a sudden to pretend that porn photos from her past are suddenly fine art, but that doesn't make it so.
Mossfern
(3,369 posts)I was a figure painter - the photos are not "art" as I understand it as a possessor of an MFA.
I am in no way offended by the photos, but one need to be clear about this.
They were done for prurient interest - not aesthetics.
on edit: I have posed nude for artists myself - none of the work was erotica. There's nothing wrong with erotica but Melania needs to own up to it - not play pretend.
aggiesal
(9,623 posts)Sure she can do nude photo's but she shouldn't pretend that's what an average FLOTUS would do, and married to a want-to-be dictator not allowing books, that display some of the same fine art she used in her video, in schools throughout the country.
CincyDem
(6,966 posts)Im arguing its not ok to shame anyone for how and where they choose to display their body.
We liked stormys clothed opinions and activities via-a-vis TFG so there was little if any mention of the hours and hours of really lurid hard core porn video that she described as artsy.
We dont like melanias clothed opinions so we go on about how even many images that are at worst, just awful art by any measure and to many, soft core porn thats not much less tasteful than cable these days.
Im just saying if either of them wants to do what they do in front of a lens with consenting adults
who am I to judge that aspect of their lives.
Peace out
Skittles
(160,990 posts)the repuke party CONSISTENTLY JUDGES THE MORALS OF OTHERS, but lets shit like this slide - it is SERIOUSLY fucked up
brush
(58,492 posts)And what you did is not even in the neighborhood.
It was porn.
lindysalsagal
(22,454 posts)IronLionZion
(47,315 posts)Donald still paid hush money to a porn star and was convicted in court for it. And was found liable for sexual assault.
That's more important than some immigrant with a thick accent doing nude photoshoots.
twodogsbarking
(12,361 posts)NBachers
(18,245 posts)et tu
(1,916 posts)beautiful gray scale and intimate
congress had a hissy fit lol
gosh- bodies are bodies function follows form lol
Aviation Pro
(13,709 posts)..
kskiska
(27,125 posts)standing on the tarmac next to an airplane.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,806 posts)She probably wants to sell more than Michelle Obama's "Becoming".
Maybe call it "Has Been"...
3catwoman3
(25,953 posts)She is a despicable as her husband.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,806 posts)twodogsbarking
(12,361 posts)brewens
(15,359 posts)the ins and outs of sex trafficking better than her?
claudette
(4,805 posts)Hahahahahahahahaha. She is as crazy as her orange felon husband. Hahahaha
BattleRow
(1,263 posts)We're there any divans or couches involved in these sessions?
Warpy
(113,131 posts)centuries ago and by men with far greater talent than her photographer.
I've seen the pics. They were artsy-craftsy porn. Oh, I don't fault her for doing them. It's just not art.
Renew Deal
(83,353 posts)Of some people around her
3catwoman3
(25,953 posts)Soft porn at the very least.
ShazzieB
(19,124 posts)That pretty much sums up how I feel about her nude photo work. As far as I'm concerned, it's ancient history. She did what she did for whatever reason she did it (probably because she needed the money), and I don't judge her for it.
I think trying to claim it's "fine art" is silly, and I doubt she'll convince many people (if any). But I honestly cannot find a single fuck to give about this.
Torchlight
(4,252 posts)It's the Free Market when conservatives do it, it's Cancel Culture when anyone else does it.
It's a Mistake My Family Is Looking To Move On From when they're caught being naughty outside of marriage, it's degeneracy when anyone else does it.
It's Traditional Families Value when a conservative does it, it's spousal abuse and assault when anyone else does it.
It's Patriotism when conservatives do it, it's Sedition, Subversion, Illegal, Un-American, and trying to overthrow a governement when anyone else does it.
She can call it what she wants, that's the only trick they have left.
ailsagirl
(23,965 posts)pwb
(12,210 posts)She does nothing for me.
vapor2
(1,692 posts)LudwigPastorius
(11,363 posts)Why can't she just be proud of her job as a sex worker?
rictofen
(246 posts)It wasn't in that clip.