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deminks

(11,296 posts)
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 11:41 AM Sep 2024

Melania defends her nude modeling as "fine art"




Picture of Melania's fine art jacket she wore as flotus to the border during family separation controversy that said on back, "I don't care, do u?"

Former flotus dropped a video today defending her nude photo work.

She's trying to sell book.
She won't let Looney Loomer replace her.
Real problem is photo shoot done in NYC possibly before HB-1 visa was in effect.

OK for Melania to have posed nude, but not ok for another former flotus to have worn a sleeveless outfit? Will Maga Mike have to report to his son if he reads Melania's book?
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Melania defends her nude modeling as "fine art" (Original Post) deminks Sep 2024 OP
A reminder Johnny2X2X Sep 2024 #1
Ty for the photo free descrip. Nt BootinUp Sep 2024 #39
Don't forget the simulated toilet paper shot! Linda ladeewolf Sep 2024 #54
I don't remember that one Johnny2X2X Sep 2024 #56
It was full front Linda ladeewolf Sep 2024 #57
Cons think it's photo shop Johnny2X2X Sep 2024 #60
"to make the shadows seem as if she was urinating" Dave Bowman Sep 2024 #67
Gross!!! Mad_Dem_X Sep 2024 #70
Her soft core porn photos were to lure a wealthy, past his prime, sugar daddy. Freethinker65 Sep 2024 #2
I'm sure she saw his diet birdographer Sep 2024 #9
That's the funniest Traildogbob Sep 2024 #18
What makes you think mercuryblues Sep 2024 #35
😂😂😂😂🤣 Traildogbob Sep 2024 #36
For rent to incels, proud boys, patriot fronts, turning-point assholes, etc. erronis Sep 2024 #46
Yeah. He didn't fulfill his part of the bargain. He's still here. 3Hotdogs Sep 2024 #53
Exactly! Exactly! Exactly! usaf-vet Sep 2024 #31
Hooker ......... Hookerhooker .....that be her ........ Trueblue1968 Sep 2024 #87
Whatever Malaria... Coventina Sep 2024 #3
Exactly. Personally B.See Sep 2024 #81
She even posted the pornographic David that was cancelled in Florida schools. Baitball Blogger Sep 2024 #4
Good catch, Baitball Blogger MLAA Sep 2024 #7
The more Melania stays out of the public eye, the better. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2024 #5
Gotta say I read that as "pubic eye". Agree to both! erronis Sep 2024 #48
Smoke and mirrors.. BattleRow Sep 2024 #58
Just more of that republican family values double standards. republianmushroom Sep 2024 #6
Certainly gets one noticed on the career ladder! Kid Berwyn Sep 2024 #8
Aw, Mel's using her cultured voice at us. Go away, Mel. You lost me at "I don't care. Do you? " Hekate Sep 2024 #10
Wasn't there a nude photo of Melania with another woman? Not that there's anything wrong with Vinca Sep 2024 #11
Back in 2015-16, saw a trio of photos supposedly from a European allegorical oracle Sep 2024 #27
I guess fapping material is in the eye of the beholder. 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2024 #12
It was softcore porn. The Third Doctor Sep 2024 #13
They really don't care Quanto Magnus Sep 2024 #47
This continues to baffle me. 3catwoman3 Sep 2024 #64
Soft porn may be art, but it wasn't "fine art" by a long, long, long shot. RockRaven Sep 2024 #14
Trash. (In my subjective opinion.) Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #15
It was advertising for a wealthy husband Fullduplexxx Sep 2024 #16
To be fair, her husband tries to pass his ignorance off as genius. Solly Mack Sep 2024 #17
It is what it is Johonny Sep 2024 #19
omg DU DeepWinter Sep 2024 #20
Funny how we revere the female form... RussBLib Sep 2024 #24
And it's all FINE ARTZ!!!! dpibel Sep 2024 #68
No. Aristus Sep 2024 #21
And Stormy Daniels does art films. Sneederbunk Sep 2024 #22
Well, at least she wasn't with another man! Abolishinist Sep 2024 #23
Which one is Melania? ShazzieB Sep 2024 #59
Definitely. Compare her now with some of her early modeling pics. LOTS niyad Sep 2024 #73
She's the one on the right. Abolishinist Sep 2024 #78
Fine art with a happy ending at a great price dalton99a Sep 2024 #25
But, but, but get the red out Sep 2024 #26
the media is very much NOT obsessed with this PedroXimenez Sep 2024 #28
ok - so I'm going to be the contrarian here. CincyDem Sep 2024 #29
It was porn. I'm an artist who has used live models for figure drawing. brush Sep 2024 #33
I agree...and I still don't think it's ours to just that element of her life. There's so much other chit to choose from. CincyDem Sep 2024 #34
None of us made her feel she needed to "defend" her choice to be a nude niyad Sep 2024 #74
Im an artist as well and disagree FreeState Sep 2024 #49
It's vey clear what audience porn photos are for. Highly doubtful that any... brush Sep 2024 #79
Nope FreeState Sep 2024 #84
Keep telling yourself that. Porn/erotica is porn/erotica, I don't care where it was published. brush Sep 2024 #85
Moi aussi! Mossfern Sep 2024 #72
I think you forgot the hypocrisy of it all. ... aggiesal Sep 2024 #45
Im not arguing if its porn or fine art. CincyDem Sep 2024 #63
do you not see it is the HYPOCRISY that is the issue? Skittles Sep 2024 #83
No, dear. That was porn. I'm an artist and have had live sessions with mode.s for figure drawing. brush Sep 2024 #30
Even if it were "art", she's not the artist! Lots of art has subjects like landscapes, animals, vegetation... lindysalsagal Sep 2024 #32
Be Best, whatever IronLionZion Sep 2024 #37
Call it art if you like but we will judge if it is fine or not. Check me not. twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #38
OK, I gave that a generous 15 seconds of my time NBachers Sep 2024 #40
robert mapplethorpe comes to mind et tu Sep 2024 #41
Blow it out your colon, consort Aviation Pro Sep 2024 #42
There's one of her fully pregnant kskiska Sep 2024 #43
I only see this as a promotion to sell her book SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2024 #44
Or maybe "Never Was..." 3catwoman3 Sep 2024 #62
Imagine Barron in another decade. SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2024 #71
Taking your clothes off requires real talent. twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #50
Trump dropped the ball with her. He should have made Mailordia his Human Sex Trafficking Czar. Who knows brewens Sep 2024 #51
OMG claudette Sep 2024 #52
One question... BattleRow Sep 2024 #55
Everything there was to say about naked women under 20 has already been said Warpy Sep 2024 #61
I don't have an issue with her modeling other than the hypocrisy Renew Deal Sep 2024 #65
Fine art my ass. 3catwoman3 Sep 2024 #66
"I really don't care, do u?' ShazzieB Sep 2024 #69
It's art when conservatives do it, porn when anyone else does. Torchlight Sep 2024 #75
Huh?? ailsagirl Sep 2024 #76
Nude Art, yes. Fine Art? pwb Sep 2024 #77
Wonder what Barron thinks about his mom posing nude? vapor2 Sep 2024 #80
"Fine art"? LudwigPastorius Sep 2024 #82
Where did she call it "fine art" though? rictofen Sep 2024 #86
If it's fine art why do Facebook and Twitter ban posts of it? live love laugh Sep 2024 #88
She is prostitute John Shaft Sep 2024 #89
Here's a reminder of how she turned the Rose Garden into a putting green. LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #90

Johnny2X2X

(22,033 posts)
1. A reminder
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 11:45 AM
Sep 2024

One nude shoot was lesbian simulated sex. And another, the most famous set of pics were shot to make the shadows seem as if she was urinating while fully nude. Won't post them, but the one set it's clear they were going for full frontal urination complete with her fondling her privates with her fingers.

High art my ass, it was soft core porn with a gross twist.

Johnny2X2X

(22,033 posts)
56. I don't remember that one
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:31 PM
Sep 2024

Yeah, they were raunchy photos. I don't begrudge anyone for what they do to make money, but don't pretend these were tasteful.

Linda ladeewolf

(551 posts)
57. It was full front
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:35 PM
Sep 2024

With her hand holding a narrow strip of what looked like sparkly toilet paper to her privates. (I’m being nice!)

Johnny2X2X

(22,033 posts)
60. Cons think it's photo shop
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:38 PM
Sep 2024

These are all phots that have been verified and have been public for years. If you show them to a MAGA, they will claim they are fake.

She was here illegally, working illegally, as a softcore porn star and escort. That's how she met Trump, Jeff Epstein introduced them.

Dave Bowman

(4,220 posts)
67. "to make the shadows seem as if she was urinating"
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 03:08 PM
Sep 2024

And the moment Lardo Loco saw this he fell in love.

Freethinker65

(11,167 posts)
2. Her soft core porn photos were to lure a wealthy, past his prime, sugar daddy.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 11:48 AM
Sep 2024

The honey trap worked brilliantly, except she got stuck with a bloated gluttonous media obsessed braggart. Not only was she required to service him in private, but she had to service him in public in front of an entire Nation, many endlessly making fun of her. At least she got citizenship for her parents and kidney surgery out of it.

birdographer

(2,554 posts)
9. I'm sure she saw his diet
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:05 PM
Sep 2024

and exercise regimen and assumed he would be dead LONG ago, and she would have $$$. And now, 8+ years later, HE'S STILL HERE.

Traildogbob

(10,401 posts)
18. That's the funniest
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:17 PM
Sep 2024

Reason to not be pissed about her ridiculous fame. Her long game did not work out. Now she is the sucker and loser that while pregnant and after he snuggly fucked other women, now he is throwing the Loon in her face, and not a thing she can do.
By the time he dies, she will be a washed up old lady, that was shut out of his will.
But tons of Bubba MAGA’s will be willing to do her.
Maybe Murdock will be divorced by then.
Being Best!

mercuryblues

(15,366 posts)
35. What makes you think
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 01:40 PM
Sep 2024

Trump hasn't already pumped her out to Murdoch?

Now she's to old even for him.

3Hotdogs

(13,744 posts)
53. Yeah. He didn't fulfill his part of the bargain. He's still here.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:25 PM
Sep 2024

Well, maybe his head ain't all here....

usaf-vet

(7,149 posts)
31. Exactly! Exactly! Exactly!
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 01:00 PM
Sep 2024

Is Baron in agreement with Mom's artist photos? I'll bet his male peers see it in a different light.

Coventina

(28,064 posts)
3. Whatever Malaria...
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 11:49 AM
Sep 2024


I don't judge people doing nudies or porn. But at least have the self-respect to own it.

Like Madonna who famously said: So what?

B.See

(4,162 posts)
81. Exactly. Personally
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 10:41 PM
Sep 2024

couldn't give a flying fk what Melania has done. Far more concerned with what the sick fk PSYCHOPATH l)has done, said, and WILL DO.

Baitball Blogger

(48,820 posts)
4. She even posted the pornographic David that was cancelled in Florida schools.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 11:51 AM
Sep 2024

So not suitable for Florida Republicans.

MLAA

(18,788 posts)
7. Good catch, Baitball Blogger
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 11:57 AM
Sep 2024

“Former First Lady, you’re no David”

Cite: "Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy" was a remark made during the 1988 United States vice presidential debate by Democratic nominee Senator Lloyd Bentsen to Republican nominee Senator Dan Quayle in response to Quayle's comparison of his experience in Congress to that of John F.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,308 posts)
5. The more Melania stays out of the public eye, the better.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 11:52 AM
Sep 2024

BE BEST and stay away Melania! Have some dignity for once.

republianmushroom

(18,579 posts)
6. Just more of that republican family values double standards.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 11:55 AM
Sep 2024

Some videos are full action and not posing.
With her book make red states school libraries ?

Kid Berwyn

(18,798 posts)
8. Certainly gets one noticed on the career ladder!
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:04 PM
Sep 2024


"Are you certain ziss iss vay zey dancing at Supermodel Academy, Done-old?"

Hekate

(95,757 posts)
10. Aw, Mel's using her cultured voice at us. Go away, Mel. You lost me at "I don't care. Do you? "
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:05 PM
Sep 2024

Vinca

(51,425 posts)
11. Wasn't there a nude photo of Melania with another woman? Not that there's anything wrong with
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:06 PM
Sep 2024

that unless you pander to a bunch of homophobic faux Christians.

allegorical oracle

(3,709 posts)
27. Back in 2015-16, saw a trio of photos supposedly from a European
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:53 PM
Sep 2024

"Gentlemen's Magazine." It featured what appeared to be two audition nude photos, one full-front and one profile. She looked stiff, uncomfortable, haggard and shiny-slick with oil. The other photo was her in bed embracing another woman.

As an oil painter, I have no problem with nudes of any sort. IMO, her photos were far from art -- nothing sensual or beautiful -- just exploitive. But she may have needed the money at that time.

50 Shades Of Blue

(11,041 posts)
12. I guess fapping material is in the eye of the beholder.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:07 PM
Sep 2024

But it's still hilarious that Melania has such a high opinion of herself that she's comparing her suggestive nude poses, including with another woman - and with herself, too! - with acclaimed works of classical art.

The Third Doctor

(403 posts)
13. It was softcore porn.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:12 PM
Sep 2024

Last edited Thu Oct 3, 2024, 01:50 AM - Edit history (1)

It's interesting that the evangelicals can overlook this but judge everyone else.

3catwoman3

(25,953 posts)
64. This continues to baffle me.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:58 PM
Sep 2024

Why these sleazy pictures were not disqualifying for evangelicals is completely mystifying.

RockRaven

(16,663 posts)
14. Soft porn may be art, but it wasn't "fine art" by a long, long, long shot.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:12 PM
Sep 2024

Just own it, cut the bullshit.

DeepWinter

(734 posts)
20. omg DU
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:22 PM
Sep 2024

The nude female form has been honored and depicted in art since humans could sculpt and draw.

Getting a big LULZ out of DU today.

dpibel

(3,485 posts)
68. And it's all FINE ARTZ!!!!
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 03:43 PM
Sep 2024

I mean, dude. Any depiction of anything is automatically fine art, right?

The point is not that Melania did nekkid pics. It's that trying to say her pics are veritable works of the classic artists is risible.

Aristus

(68,873 posts)
21. No.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:22 PM
Sep 2024

Michelangelo's David is fine art. The Callipygian Venus is fine art.

Melania, your photographic output, like your husband, is trash.

Abolishinist

(2,123 posts)
23. Well, at least she wasn't with another man!
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:35 PM
Sep 2024

I'm sure there's something in the Bible about this. A good yard sign in front of an evangelical church, perhaps?

ShazzieB

(19,124 posts)
59. Which one is Melania?
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:36 PM
Sep 2024

Neither one of them looks like her to me. I mean, if I had to guess, I'd pick the one on the right, but if you showed me this picture cold and asked me if I recognized either of these women, I'd have to say no. Evidence of excessive plastic surgery, maybe?

niyad

(121,446 posts)
73. Definitely. Compare her now with some of her early modeling pics. LOTS
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 06:21 PM
Sep 2024

of cosmetic surgery. Personally, I think she looked better in the "before" images.

Abolishinist

(2,123 posts)
78. She's the one on the right.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 07:09 PM
Sep 2024

And I have to disagree with niyad, I think she looks much better now.

CincyDem

(6,966 posts)
29. ok - so I'm going to be the contrarian here.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:57 PM
Sep 2024

At its core, she shouldn't have to "defend" anything about the nude images. Her body her choice is, IMHO, about more than just women's health care.

HB-1 violation: go for it.
Being a 2-faced sugar daddy chasing reichwinger: go for it.
What she did to the Rose Garden: definitely go for it.

But, again IMHO, if she decided to do nude modeling work, I say her choice. I don't agree with the choice but it's not up to me.

To steal paraphrase: If you don't like nude images...don't be in nude images.

brush

(58,492 posts)
33. It was porn. I'm an artist who has used live models for figure drawing.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 01:04 PM
Sep 2024

What she did was porn, not fine art. No even close, I don't care what she contends.

CincyDem

(6,966 posts)
34. I agree...and I still don't think it's ours to just that element of her life. There's so much other chit to choose from.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 01:16 PM
Sep 2024

I'm old enough to remember when we hailed a hard (hard) core porn star for violating her NDA, forcing that issue to court and winning and then sitting in NYC courtroom facing off against TFG. I don't, however, remember any conversation from our side dismissing her testimony because of the work she decided to do.

I'm not defending the content fine art, fine porn, or anything...just saying her body, her choice.

niyad

(121,446 posts)
74. None of us made her feel she needed to "defend" her choice to be a nude
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 06:27 PM
Sep 2024

model. It interests me that she felt the neeed to do so. My only problem is with her apparently getting an Einstein visa out of it. "significant contribution" my . . .

FreeState

(10,701 posts)
49. Im an artist as well and disagree
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:15 PM
Sep 2024

(Photo's not figure drawings)

For me it comes down to why the photos were produced and who the intended audience is.

brush

(58,492 posts)
79. It's vey clear what audience porn photos are for. Highly doubtful that any...
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 09:50 PM
Sep 2024

actual artist would call porn photos fine art.

In fact, it's beyond the pale,

Also see post 72.

Porn/erotica is fine for those who desire it, but let's be clear, it's not fine art.

FreeState

(10,701 posts)
84. Nope
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 10:50 PM
Sep 2024

It all depends on who the intended audience is and what the intended use is. One thing no one has mentioned in this whole thread is where the pictures were published or why they were taken. (Edit to add it was Max a French fashion and lifestyle magazine - not a porn magazine).

Fine art refers to a creative art form primarily focused on aesthetic value, expression, and intellectual engagement, rather than practical or functional use.

It is often contrasted with applied or commercial arts, where art may serve a more utilitarian or mass-production purpose. Fine art is usually associated with works intended for galleries, museums, and private collections, representing cultural, historical, or personal significance.

brush

(58,492 posts)
85. Keep telling yourself that. Porn/erotica is porn/erotica, I don't care where it was published.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 11:23 PM
Sep 2024

It's not fine art. Actual artists tend to fiercely defend what is elevated to fine art as it's our stock and trade, so years later Melanoma can try all of a sudden to pretend that porn photos from her past are suddenly fine art, but that doesn't make it so.

Mossfern

(3,369 posts)
72. Moi aussi!
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 06:13 PM
Sep 2024

I was a figure painter - the photos are not "art" as I understand it as a possessor of an MFA.
I am in no way offended by the photos, but one need to be clear about this.
They were done for prurient interest - not aesthetics.

on edit: I have posed nude for artists myself - none of the work was erotica. There's nothing wrong with erotica but Melania needs to own up to it - not play pretend.

aggiesal

(9,623 posts)
45. I think you forgot the hypocrisy of it all. ...
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:11 PM
Sep 2024

Sure she can do nude photo's but she shouldn't pretend that's what an average FLOTUS would do, and married to a want-to-be dictator not allowing books, that display some of the same fine art she used in her video, in schools throughout the country.

CincyDem

(6,966 posts)
63. Im not arguing if its porn or fine art.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:55 PM
Sep 2024

I’m arguing it’s not ok to shame anyone for how and where they choose to display their body.

We liked stormy’s clothed opinions and activities via-a-vis TFG so there was little if any mention of the hours and hours of really lurid hard core porn video that she described as artsy.

We don’t like melania’s clothed opinions so we go on about how even many images that are at worst, just awful art by any measure and to many, soft core porn that’s not much less tasteful than cable these days.

I’m just saying if either of them wants to do what they do in front of a lens with consenting adults…who am I to judge that aspect of their lives.

Peace out



Skittles

(160,990 posts)
83. do you not see it is the HYPOCRISY that is the issue?
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 10:48 PM
Sep 2024

the repuke party CONSISTENTLY JUDGES THE MORALS OF OTHERS, but lets shit like this slide - it is SERIOUSLY fucked up

brush

(58,492 posts)
30. No, dear. That was porn. I'm an artist and have had live sessions with mode.s for figure drawing.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:59 PM
Sep 2024

And what you did is not even in the neighborhood.

It was porn.

lindysalsagal

(22,454 posts)
32. Even if it were "art", she's not the artist! Lots of art has subjects like landscapes, animals, vegetation...
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 01:02 PM
Sep 2024

IronLionZion

(47,315 posts)
37. Be Best, whatever
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 01:51 PM
Sep 2024

Donald still paid hush money to a porn star and was convicted in court for it. And was found liable for sexual assault.

That's more important than some immigrant with a thick accent doing nude photoshoots.

et tu

(1,916 posts)
41. robert mapplethorpe comes to mind
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:08 PM
Sep 2024

beautiful gray scale and intimate
congress had a hissy fit lol
gosh- bodies are bodies function follows form lol

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,806 posts)
44. I only see this as a promotion to sell her book
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:10 PM
Sep 2024

She probably wants to sell more than Michelle Obama's "Becoming".

Maybe call it "Has Been"...

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
51. Trump dropped the ball with her. He should have made Mailordia his Human Sex Trafficking Czar. Who knows
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:20 PM
Sep 2024

the ins and outs of sex trafficking better than her?

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
61. Everything there was to say about naked women under 20 has already been said
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:39 PM
Sep 2024

centuries ago and by men with far greater talent than her photographer.

I've seen the pics. They were artsy-craftsy porn. Oh, I don't fault her for doing them. It's just not art.

Renew Deal

(83,353 posts)
65. I don't have an issue with her modeling other than the hypocrisy
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:58 PM
Sep 2024

Of some people around her

ShazzieB

(19,124 posts)
69. "I really don't care, do u?'
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 04:20 PM
Sep 2024

That pretty much sums up how I feel about her nude photo work. As far as I'm concerned, it's ancient history. She did what she did for whatever reason she did it (probably because she needed the money), and I don't judge her for it.

I think trying to claim it's "fine art" is silly, and I doubt she'll convince many people (if any). But I honestly cannot find a single fuck to give about this.

Torchlight

(4,252 posts)
75. It's art when conservatives do it, porn when anyone else does.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 06:32 PM
Sep 2024

It's the Free Market when conservatives do it, it's Cancel Culture when anyone else does it.

It's a Mistake My Family Is Looking To Move On From when they're caught being naughty outside of marriage, it's degeneracy when anyone else does it.

It's Traditional Families Value when a conservative does it, it's spousal abuse and assault when anyone else does it.

It's Patriotism when conservatives do it, it's Sedition, Subversion, Illegal, Un-American, and trying to overthrow a governement when anyone else does it.




She can call it what she wants, that's the only trick they have left.

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