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kpete

(72,895 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 04:52 PM Sep 16

"My wife, a Republican, has decided to vote for the Democrats.. She voted for Trump twice."

My wife, a Republican, has decided to vote for the Democrats. TLDR: I put her quote at the bottom of this post.

She has never voted for a Democrat. She voted for Trump twice. She soured on him big time in his first term and was already fed up with him by the 2020 election, but voted for him again because she walked the party line. And then he pulled everything he did after the election and she said she'd never vote for him again. She supported a different candidate in the GOP primary.

We were on a walk tonight and for the first time, she said she was voting for the Democrats. I asked her why and here's what she said:

"He scares me. I think he is fundamentally evil. I hate that he creates chaos and division and divides the country. He breeds hatred. He uses his supporters as guard dogs and gets them all riled up, while they're on a leash and then points and tells them who he wants attacked, and they attack. It's dangerous. He's beyond narcissistic. He's power hungry and will do anything to get power and keep it. The Republicans are scared of him and will do whatever he says. None of them will stand up to him and do what's right. He divides us to gain power. He intentionally puts people in danger because he wants more power. That's pure evil."


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"My wife, a Republican, has decided to vote for the Democrats.. She voted for Trump twice." (Original Post) kpete Sep 16 OP
Pure evil (R) and The Great Deception BoRaGard Sep 16 #1
EVIL is really the most appropriate word for not only Trump but the current Republican Party Wiz Imp Sep 16 #31
Sounds like Mrs. Aristus. Aristus Sep 16 #2
See, miracles do happen! Permanut Sep 16 #17
I am so happy my wife is a Democrat. Intractable Sep 16 #3
Same for my husband Bettie Sep 16 #13
I'm with you guys! slightlv Sep 16 #15
All of my kids are flaming liberals as well Bettie Sep 16 #22
I think repukes were somewhat "normal" back then... ailsagirl Sep 16 #37
Took a while. elleng Sep 16 #4
Some take more time. LiberalFighter Sep 16 #12
Better late than never! nt Wednesdays Sep 16 #38
Wow. sheshe2 Sep 16 #5
Kick TY Cha Sep 16 #6
Congratulation to your wife to becoming aware of what an evil sob he is and how he could destroy our country kimbutgar Sep 16 #7
One man krkaufman Sep 16 #8
Important that she sees what he's done to the Republican Party MadameButterfly Sep 17 #44
Glad your wife came to her senses and saw Voldemort for who he is - a dangerous crook. But out of curiosity what was her onetexan Sep 16 #9
He will still get 95% HagathaCrispy Sep 16 #10
I don't understand your post. Are you saying tRump will get 95 % of registered voters? Where are you getting this info. debm55 Sep 16 #16
Nope HagathaCrispy Sep 16 #25
Sorry , I thought you meant the total vote debm55 Sep 16 #34
The key is that 5% MadameButterfly Sep 17 #45
better late than never lefthandedskyhook Sep 16 #11
I hold reality tv partially to blame LiberalFighter Sep 16 #14
A friend said his daughter and son-in-law really like tsf from the Apprentice. JoetheShow Sep 16 #20
Maybe you should gift them this book .... eppur_se_muova Sep 16 #24
EVIL Jean Genie Sep 16 #18
The enemy of my enemy... JoetheShow Sep 16 #19
I have always wondered what impact being married Dan Sep 16 #21
The heart will not be told whom it may love. TomSlick Sep 16 #23
Please tell your wife.......THANK YOU! ProudMNDemocrat Sep 16 #26
I don't believe it's kpetes wife leftieNanner Sep 16 #27
trump is made of selfishness and greed and nothing else. mwb970 Sep 16 #28
They're burning thru their goodwill, reputation for that ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 16 #36
How do people partner up with people of opposite beliefs? Dem4life1234 Sep 16 #29
I don't get it either Skittles Sep 16 #40
She certainly has Trump's number. I hope more Republican voters have his number -- and realize it's NOT #47. Beartracks Sep 16 #30
My meek and mild soft spoken Wife, a Democrat, would kick my ass BOSSHOG Sep 16 #32
congratulations... myohmy2 Sep 16 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 16 #35
To quote Officer McClain kairos12 Sep 16 #39
If it takes one 4 years to see what Trump is, something's off. jaxexpat Sep 17 #41
My wife won't be voting for either Trump or Harris DFW Sep 17 #42
I've been saying that since 2016. Takes some people longer to see the light. sinkingfeeling Sep 17 #43
He is pure evil Roc2020 Sep 17 #46
Well, there have been evil ones before. Susan Calvin Sep 17 #47
That's a good start. ECL213 Sep 17 #48

BoRaGard

(2,931 posts)
1. Pure evil (R) and The Great Deception
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 04:56 PM
Sep 16

repent ye wayward repubes. Don't lie again and claim you didn't know.

Wiz Imp

(2,036 posts)
31. EVIL is really the most appropriate word for not only Trump but the current Republican Party
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:14 PM
Sep 16

Unfortunately, it is not used nearly as often as it should be. As far as I'm concerned, every single discussion of Trump and/or MAGA Republicans in general should include the phrase "Pure Fucking Evil"

Aristus

(68,446 posts)
2. Sounds like Mrs. Aristus.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 04:59 PM
Sep 16

The one good thing I can say about Trump is that he turned her from a conservative Christian Republican into a liberal Democratic atheist.

She started voting for the Democratic candidate back in 2008, even though she actually admired John McCain. But she loathed Sarah Palin. She voted to re-elect Barack Obama in 2012, and voting proudly and enthusiastically for Hillary Clinton in 2016. When her church refused to denounce Trump's feculently un-Christian behavior, she was done with Christianity for good.

Intractable

(546 posts)
3. I am so happy my wife is a Democrat.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 04:59 PM
Sep 16

I don't have to spend my evenings convincing her of the validity of information.

Bettie

(17,175 posts)
13. Same for my husband
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:46 PM
Sep 16

I can't imagine living with someone and disagreeing about something so fundamental.

But, I guess Republicans used to be normal people....at some point in the past.

Bettie

(17,175 posts)
22. All of my kids are flaming liberals as well
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:02 PM
Sep 16

actually, they think that I am a little on the conservative side for them..

ailsagirl

(23,826 posts)
37. I think repukes were somewhat "normal" back then...
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:54 PM
Sep 16

It was the advent of Karl Rove that started the downward slide--his "Contract with America" took quite a toll on our country.

kimbutgar

(23,400 posts)
7. Congratulation to your wife to becoming aware of what an evil sob he is and how he could destroy our country
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:16 PM
Sep 16

If ( god forbid ) he is re elected.

krkaufman

(13,743 posts)
8. One man
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:17 PM
Sep 16
The Republicans are scared of him and will do whatever he says. None of them will stand up to him and do what's right.


Given she voted for him twice, I won’t hold my breath that she fully grasps what she, herself, is saying and hold all Republican candidates accountable. Trump could have been made a footnote in history years ago had the GOP not put party ahead of country.

MadameButterfly

(1,751 posts)
44. Important that she sees what he's done to the Republican Party
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 07:33 AM
Sep 17

I can't believe how cogent she is for a former Trump voter. But she is proof that his ever increasing insanity is having an effect on former supporters.

He'll continue to get worse. It will wear some people away. I don't believe everyone has decided and can't switch. We've never seen this level of political malpractice, vengeance, incompetence, and just plain laziness in a presidential nominee before. There has never been a self-proclaimed dictator, and some low-information voters will catch on late.

Kamala and Walz are still pretty new and on fire. We aren't hoping for the 40%, we just need another 5%.

onetexan

(13,900 posts)
9. Glad your wife came to her senses and saw Voldemort for who he is - a dangerous crook. But out of curiosity what was her
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:22 PM
Sep 16

reasoning for voting for him twice previously? How did she come to the realization she shouldn't vote for him? Was it J6, his displays of lunacy, getting in bed w the nazis or his dangerous rhetoric to incite violence?

debm55

(36,953 posts)
16. I don't understand your post. Are you saying tRump will get 95 % of registered voters? Where are you getting this info.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:50 PM
Sep 16

MadameButterfly

(1,751 posts)
45. The key is that 5%
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 07:34 AM
Sep 17

5% in the wing states will give us the election. Might even be a landslide. But I'd prefer 10% to overcome the coup that will follow and for all of our stress levels.

JoetheShow

(90 posts)
20. A friend said his daughter and son-in-law really like tsf from the Apprentice.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:57 PM
Sep 16

He was so commanding. Such a leader and business man. I couldn't believe people really believed that nonsense. I'm losing a lot of my foolish notions about the sense and judgement of the American people. It is very depressing some times.

Jean Genie

(409 posts)
18. EVIL
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:51 PM
Sep 16

No doubt about it: he is EVIL! And it's damn scary to be facing evil, and wondering if we'll survive the evil onslaught!

JoetheShow

(90 posts)
19. The enemy of my enemy...
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:52 PM
Sep 16

I glad she has, for the moment at least, seen the light. It took much too long, but ok... peace. I always thought tsf was a buffoon who was totally unfit to be President but didn't think he was particularly dangerous. When he came down the escalator and started talking about how the migrants were murderers and rapist, I started worrying. I know enough history to know there is always a willing audience for that drek.

Dan

(4,107 posts)
21. I have always wondered what impact being married
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:59 PM
Sep 16

To a person that voted for Trump would be like and how it would impact the marriage.

I can’t imagine having a meaningful conversation when both parties are on such opposite sides of the political spectrum, especially with someone like Trump.

I long for the days of the McCain, Romneys and even Bush(s) because at least there wouldn’t be the cauldron of hate. But Trump, is a marriage license too far.

I would be in the position of questioning everything that I knew about my spouse and maybe, even myself.

Glad I am not in that situation….although, I guess, Love conquers all.

TomSlick

(11,933 posts)
23. The heart will not be told whom it may love.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:10 PM
Sep 16

Still and all, I am fortunate that Herself is, if anything, more liberal than I. I couldn't stand the drama.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,100 posts)
26. Please tell your wife.......THANK YOU!
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:39 PM
Sep 16

Let her also know my 3 Granddaughters will thank her. I applaud her come around to reality.

All of America's daughters and Granddaughters will thank us for voting for the Harris/Walz ticket. America's Seniors too.

mwb970

(11,711 posts)
28. trump is made of selfishness and greed and nothing else.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:54 PM
Sep 16

The very two qualities that are associated with evil in Christian theology and scripture. So of course all the MAGA-addled "Christians" worship him like a god. What dumb people!

Dem4life1234

(1,899 posts)
29. How do people partner up with people of opposite beliefs?
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:59 PM
Sep 16

Seems draining

She seems to only care when it affects her.

Skittles

(159,642 posts)
40. I don't get it either
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 09:31 PM
Sep 16

and as far as her waking up - what the FUCK took her so long? I find it VERY hard to forgive these assholes who helped to inflict that vile POS on America

Beartracks

(13,596 posts)
30. She certainly has Trump's number. I hope more Republican voters have his number -- and realize it's NOT #47.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:10 PM
Sep 16

BOSSHOG

(40,017 posts)
32. My meek and mild soft spoken Wife, a Democrat, would kick my ass
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:23 PM
Sep 16

Even If I mentioned I was undecided. Which I’m incredibly decided when it comes to Presidential elections. Have been for more then 50 years.

myohmy2

(3,572 posts)
33. congratulations...
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 07:33 PM
Sep 16

...jump in, the Democratic water's fine...

...we welcome good decent people...

...

Response to kpete (Original post)

DFW

(56,688 posts)
42. My wife won't be voting for either Trump or Harris
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 06:26 AM
Sep 17

But both our daughters will be voting for Harris/Walz, as will I. That‘s two in Texas and one in New York, plus the husband of my New York-based daughter. The husband of my Germany-based daughter is, like my wife, ineligible to vote in this election.

Roc2020

(1,718 posts)
46. He is pure evil
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:15 AM
Sep 17

to the point where the owner of his soul wants it...almost begging for it, tried twice to get it, and for some unknown reason God is saying no.

Susan Calvin

(2,124 posts)
47. Well, there have been evil ones before.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 11:43 AM
Sep 17

Just not quite so blatant, or else they let their subordinates do the dirty work. But I'm always glad when somebody sees the light.

ECL213

(314 posts)
48. That's a good start.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 12:00 PM
Sep 17

The real question will be whether she votes for some other worthless asshole in 2028. One who doesn't scream the quiet part out loud.

What am I saying? Of course she will. Because none of them will have really learned a goddam thing.

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