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Dennis Donovan

(26,271 posts)
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 10:11 AM Sep 14

Why the debate moderators checked out the Springfield story before the debate



Norman Ornstein
Not even about the debate. JD Vance had already spread this vile racist lie started by neo-Nazis. Every responsible news organization wanted to check it out.

James Surowiecki
I don't understand the supposed conspiracy here. Everyone knew Trump was going to tell the fake story about people eating cats - I tweeted earlier that day about the fact that he was going to bring it up. So of course ABC wanted to check to see if the story was true.


The genesis of the lie: 'It just exploded': Springfield woman claims she never meant to spark false rumors about Haitians
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Dennis Donovan

(26,271 posts)
2. It's called "Flooding the zone with bullshit..."
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 10:21 AM
Sep 14

The ugliest Presidential Race in my lifetime, and I've been involved in them since 1972.

Walleye

(35,892 posts)
3. Me too, my first vote was in 1972. You had to be 21 then.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 10:25 AM
Sep 14

I’ve never seen politics tear families apart like this. I think that’s the biggest crime they should answer for. At least one of these guys should come out and tell them maga flying monkeys to cut this shit out. But they won’t, they haven’t yet, the silence is deafening .

Dennis Donovan

(26,271 posts)
4. I was 7 and working at Dem HQ stuffing envelopes for McGovern/Shriver
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 10:28 AM
Sep 14

My 1st vote was in 1984 for Mondale/Ferraro.

Zambero

(9,768 posts)
6. Steve Bannon for one admits to and condones this strategy
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 12:06 PM
Sep 14

As a self-avowed "Leninist of the right" he's all-in with the end justifying the means.

haele

(13,567 posts)
7. Maybe because there was a Frontline story about that two or three days prior
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 12:21 PM
Sep 14

And since it involved immigrants, he was sure to bring it up.

Haele

GopherGal

(2,401 posts)
8. The only fact checks he faced were from lies he and Shady had been propagating before the debate...
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 12:28 PM
Sep 14

The post-birth abortion BS
Immigrants eat pets.
Violent crime rates dropping
Kamala negotiated with Putin (??)

T...FP repeats known lies so frequently that it lent itself to moderators doing debate prep to check them so as not to let the lies go unchallenged.

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