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rogerballard

(3,897 posts)
1. I know he keeps saying gangs have taken over Aurora, Colorado
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:46 PM
Sep 2024

Springfield too or the cat eating story was from there as well.

rogerballard

(3,897 posts)
7. Police in the Denver suburb of Aurora say a Venezuela street gang
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:52 PM
Sep 2024

AURORA, Colo. (AP) — Police in the Denver suburb of Aurora say a Venezuela street gang with a small presence in the city has not taken over a rundown apartment complex — yet the allegation continues to gain steam among conservatives and was amplified by former President Donald Trump in a Wednesday Fox News town hall where he said Venezuelans were “taking over the whole town.”

The unsubstantiated allegation gained momentum following last month’s dissemination of video from a resident in the complex that showed armed men knocking on an apartment door, intensifying fears the Tren de Aragua gang was in control of the six-building complex.

However, city officials indicate the buildings, along with two other apartment complexes, were run down because of neglect by the property manager, CBZ Management.

https://apnews.com/article/venezuela-immigrants-aurora-colorado-police-37acd4e064347d51808cb244117ac21e

haele

(13,727 posts)
10. Venezuelan Gang supposedly roaming Aurora doing breaking and entering.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 11:12 PM
Sep 2024

130 miles or so away from Springfield Ohio, some crazy lady kidnapped a neighbor's cat, killed and ate it. And some homeless black guy killed and cooked a park duck or goose.
1. There's a couple Columbian, Ecuadorian, and Venezuelan gangs that fly into the US on Tourist Visas and spend the summer traveling the country hitting upscale neighborhoods and stores across the US. The Columbian gang hit San Diego, Orange County, and LA County earlier this year. They are apparently aligned with various US mobsters and gangs. This is the 7th or 8th year these gangs have been doing this been doing this.
2. The Springfield issue, according to the PBS Frontline report I just saw - is about a small number of the ~45k existing residents upset with the influx of around 20k legal Haitian immigrants -asylum seekers - over the past 2/3 years who have some issues with assimilation, along with the infrastructure issues that come with that many people coming into a rather small community - housing, educational resources, social services availability are at a shortage, and the city administration and local manufacturing who have no problems with the immigrants as taxpayers and workers need help paying for the additional employees (teachers, translators, medical clinics, legal, social services, and housing expansion needed for those additional people in the community.
There's a serious language issue (Haitians speak a form of French Creole), and a clash with Haitian culture in which things like drivers licences are only necessary when driving as a business and rules of the road are generally suggestions. Crime is down in Springfield, but reckless driving causing accidents is up.
Right wingers are trying to start a race war against the Haitians. They're also trying to start a race war in Aurora and other areas where Venezuelan refugees are settling by linking those refugees with the gangs flying in on tourist Visas for a little "seasonal work"

Haele

PortTack

(35,025 posts)
4. Springfield, OH had been in serious decline, then Haitian immigrants started moving there
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:49 PM
Sep 2024

One city leader talked about what productive members of the community they are. Of course frump and Vance were gonna jump on that!

Ocelot II

(121,970 posts)
5. It's the whole crazy fake rumor about Haitian immigrants in Ohio
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:49 PM
Sep 2024

who have been accused on some weird xitter post of eating people's pets, which went viral and JD Vance picked it up. What really happened is that a large number of Haitian immigrants settled legally in Springfield, OH, and basically saved the town, which was in bad shape. The real story is here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/03/us/springfield-ohio-school-bus-crash-haiti-immigrants.html?unlocked_article_code=1.J04.XAkk._3qBg5ID7FhG&smid=url-share

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,899 posts)
6. There Are Claims (Lies) That Haitian Immigrants Have Taken Over Springfield
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:50 PM
Sep 2024

And that they're abducting dogs and cats and eating them. It's been thoroughly debunked, but he and JD Bowman both keep repeating them as if they were true. Gov. DeWine is supposed to have a press conference about it tomorrow. Best I can tell, the origin of this is that there was some report from a very sketchy source claiming that one woman abducted and killed another woman's cat and then ate it in front of her.

And the thing about Aurora is Trump claimed the city was overtaken by Venezualans who all showed up armed to some building (maybe City Hall?) and took it over.

Diraven

(1,118 posts)
9. This says everything
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:56 PM
Sep 2024

He uncritically believes anything he hears on TV if it confirms his prejudices.

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