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mdbl

(5,494 posts)
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 07:50 PM Sep 2024

Judge Merchan who put off sentencing Dump until after the election is off his rocker

Last edited Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:56 PM - Edit history (1)

I don't care what strategies he thinks are playing out, the sentencing should have occurred and Dump should be doing his time right now pending an appeal. This is what is supposed to happen to criminals. This is why people are losing faith in our system. It doesn't strengthen anyone's resolve on either side of the political spectrum by doing it the wrong way - but he did it anyway. I have zero respect for this decision.

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Judge Merchan who put off sentencing Dump until after the election is off his rocker (Original Post) mdbl Sep 2024 OP
Trump would have immediately appealed to SCOTUS before the election Bev54 Sep 2024 #1
He can be imprisoned during his appeal. mdbl Sep 2024 #2
Extremely unlikely with these charges. Bev54 Sep 2024 #3
In your imagination. Not in reality. onenote Sep 2024 #14
But he wouldn't be. And you know it. Iggo Sep 2024 #16
I heard that bdamomma Sep 2024 #11
He was ticked off that the prosecution essentially joined DT's defense pat_k Sep 2024 #4
Merchan was probably going to sentence him to probation at worse. Probably best it was put off, Silent Type Sep 2024 #5
Trump was going to use sentencing to play victim/martyr Locutusofborg Sep 2024 #6
Perhaps someone whispered in his ear. Firestorm49 Sep 2024 #7
It could get worse... lame54 Sep 2024 #8
Well I guess that settles it then Fiendish Thingy Sep 2024 #9
I didn't say I knew more mdbl Sep 2024 #15
Well, you did say Merchan was "off his rocker" Fiendish Thingy Sep 2024 #17
He is. So is our justice system. mdbl Sep 2024 #18
IMHO this is better than drumph playing the victim right now Tribetime Sep 2024 #10
For once, and as much as I was looking forward to sentencing, yonder Sep 2024 #12
I wasn't pleased, but I can see pros and cons too either approach. D23MIURG23 Sep 2024 #13
I disagree. At first I felt the same way you do, but after thinking about it a sentencing before the election Vinca Sep 2024 #19
I'm sure the judge is heartbroken he let down random internet guy. tritsofme Sep 2024 #20
I don't know about that? kentuck Sep 2024 #21

Bev54

(11,920 posts)
1. Trump would have immediately appealed to SCOTUS before the election
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 07:57 PM
Sep 2024

This way he cannot. He is still a convicted 34 times felon.

mdbl

(5,494 posts)
2. He can be imprisoned during his appeal.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 07:58 PM
Sep 2024

He's certainly dangerous enough to deny a bond.

onenote

(44,772 posts)
14. In your imagination. Not in reality.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:12 PM
Sep 2024

There is no chance he would be imprisoned pending appeal of a non-violent felony conviction that even many legal experts feel is not slam dunk safe from being reversed.

bdamomma

(66,627 posts)
11. I heard that
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:21 PM
Sep 2024

explanation too. But how many times is that POS going to get what he truly deserves.

pat_k

(10,880 posts)
4. He was ticked off that the prosecution essentially joined DT's defense
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:00 PM
Sep 2024

. . when they declined to oppose the delay.

You have a point, but I for one am very happy it is playing out this way. With the delay, SCOTUS can't get their hands on it and give him a get out of jail free card before the election (and thus give him "I was exonerated" ammo).

If we somehow fail to turn out enough voters to defeat him, and if SCOTUS doesn't give him a get out of jail free card, he might at least spend a little time in the hoosegow (until January 20th that is -- perhaps he'd be sworn in behind bars because he can't pardon himself until he's sworn in).

Silent Type

(7,200 posts)
5. Merchan was probably going to sentence him to probation at worse. Probably best it was put off,
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:01 PM
Sep 2024

because trump would claim victory. Agree it’s a shame.

Locutusofborg

(542 posts)
6. Trump was going to use sentencing to play victim/martyr
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:04 PM
Sep 2024

To even further inflame and rally his base. This way he can't.

lame54

(37,062 posts)
8. It could get worse...
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:16 PM
Sep 2024

He might overturn the verdicts
Maybe he pushed it past the election to not give Trump a win before the election

Fiendish Thingy

(18,680 posts)
17. Well, you did say Merchan was "off his rocker"
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 11:00 PM
Sep 2024

Which implies you think Merchan is incompetent, feeble, or mentally ill (which is ironic, since he runs a weekly mental health court to determine competency, conservatorship, etc.)

If you don’t like a court ruling, policy, etc., then state your disagreement without personally attacking the person- to do so weakens the strength of your position.

yonder

(10,005 posts)
12. For once, and as much as I was looking forward to sentencing,
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:29 PM
Sep 2024

this particular delay does not bother me at all. As others have said, there are some advantages.

D23MIURG23

(3,092 posts)
13. I wasn't pleased, but I can see pros and cons too either approach.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:08 PM
Sep 2024

I actually AM pissed that Trump's bond was never revoked, though. He should have gotten pretrial detention for the documents case at very least, and especially after he started violating gag orders.

He was essentially being treated like a king even before SCOTUS practically ruled that is one.

We need a new constitutional amendment stripping the right of felons to hold public office, and removing secret service protection from any politician who has been indicted. If you aren't even allowed to own a gun, how is it that you can be president and control our nukes?

Vinca

(51,159 posts)
19. I disagree. At first I felt the same way you do, but after thinking about it a sentencing before the election
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:56 AM
Sep 2024

would give the wannabe king the perfect appeal after he loses to Kamala. Plus, I have a feeling the upcoming sentence includes some jail time for Trump and I'm betting Merchan wants to avoid a MAGA war right before the election because if Trump goes to the big house, all hell is going to break loose on the right.

tritsofme

(18,645 posts)
20. I'm sure the judge is heartbroken he let down random internet guy.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:40 AM
Sep 2024

Threads like this are ridiculous.

kentuck

(112,895 posts)
21. I don't know about that?
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:54 AM
Sep 2024

If he wins or loses, he cannot be pardoned or his AG cannot drop the state charges against him, is my understanding.

He was ready to appeal, I am certain. That is what he does.

Also, that is why he wanted it moved to Federal Court, so it could be dismissed by his AG if he were to win the next election.

Which he is not going to do.

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