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Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:56 PM

 

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are we, as a nation, ever going to move our thinking into 21st century mode? Our current administrations Justice Department(Holder I guess) is weighing whether to apply legal sanctions to the states(washington-colorado)that legalized personal use of marijuana. This line of thinking by the administration shows just how hamstrung we are with some laws that have no basis in reality. If a person grows a little marijuana for personal use and that's it. The government should go find some wrong doing on wall street, oh sorry, they did that already and bailed out the banks with billions of dollars. Is it a money thing? I just don't understand draconian thought processes and actions. If people are not harming anyone, leave people alone!

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Response to heaven05 (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:59 PM

1. This whole Administration is strange, considering that Bush and crooks are all

 

still at large. Don't worry about the big crimes, just go after the pot users.

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Response to teddy51 (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:06 PM

4. It's

 

disgusting and very frustrating I tell you!

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Response to teddy51 (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:12 PM

6. Well . . . there ARE people who are under-cutting themselves & demanding certain legal conclusions

at the same time.

The effect of that is that the opposition KNOWS that they ABSOLUTELY don't have to do anything at all but keep any- everything from changing, because those who are threatening to abandon larger efforts over their SINGLE-issue stuff are doing the oppositions' work for them. All the oppressor has to do is wait for the fractures to de-ball anything they're against, then enter the field and pick up whatever pieces they wish.

The single thing that they have that works every time is that they don't break ranks and it's VERY easy for those who are working for change to be suckered by those in their midst who are doing base-building FOR THEMSELVES more than bigger picture stuff and will break ranks whenever they've gotten everything they can get out of a situation. This is particularly true of the legalization of cannabis issue, because it has a heritage from what calls itself "Libertarians" in their cohort, many of whom are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more committed to gun issues than they are to anything else.

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Response to heaven05 (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:02 PM

2. It's ALL politics. Thhey can get bigger crowds from more active, committed, and organized

cannabis-haters, than they can from anyone who is telling the truth about Economic Injustices in this country.

That's it. Sum and total. The whole thing. Numbers of persons on Holder's back demanding action on certain cases in the courts and from whom Holder and his friends can expect positive attitudes in the future if they deliver what is being demanded.

Period.

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Response to patrice (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:05 PM

3. yep

 

that's it in a nutshell.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:16 PM

8. BTW, if I had money, I'd bet big that most of this crap is coming out of the CHURCHES. nt

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Response to heaven05 (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:10 PM

5. It's an example of another manipulation of 'mass mind think." Pick a target and go after it ... the

little people can be mowed over easily, but the big guys (banks, wall street, etc.) fight back and kick ass, so they get left alone. Bush, etc. would fight back too, so they get left alone. It's the same as kissing babies, thumbing the bible and talking god stuff. Frankly, I question if the US will ever enter the 21st century, the STUPID is so great in this country. The US had a good run of it after WWII, but those days are over, but no doubt the war-machine of the US would like to see some big profits, even more than they have now. In short, it all sucks in USA, INC. And imagine what it would be like if Romney and his herd were in ...


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Response to heaven05 (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:15 PM

7. If the other side takes it on as an issue

it could create the perfect storm.

You get cancer victims, PTSD vets, MS patients going on a tear, it's not gonna be pretty.


I think President Obama needs to realize that We The People have had enough disruption of our lives so that rich men can finagle more ways to get rich off of our pain and poverty.

Let's hope the saner heads prevail, or you will see serious backlash politically.





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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:20 PM

9. Pot prohibition has to be among one of the most stupid paths the US has taken. Now, granted,

there are many stupid paths to choose from where the US has excelled, but pot prohibition has to be right up there.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:29 PM

10. and HEMP!! My god, WTF!!!, it's literal insanity to illegalize Hemp! Something's VERY wrong. nt

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:40 PM

12. Economically, and politically, the destruction on the middle and lower classes

due to the War on a Plant has been astounding in its scope.

As if we have a government that would rather spend money on prisons than schools....just for more $$$$$$$ for the very scant few.



"Mama, spend your money on lawyers, court costs and jail fees for your boy; forget having any left over for tuition anywhere!

And we'll scar your boy for life!

No student loans!

No right to vote!

No help!

We get to keep all the filthy profits, too!"





Can't imagine anything sane about people who think like that....

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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:37 PM

11. Listening to socker-mommies recently bitching about their kids getting cannabis from

"somewhere".

They're saying the kids get it all by themselves somehow; they're really puzzled, no adults that they know of, none of their adult friends/parents of the kids getting the weed are involved.

I didn't go after them on why/how that might be, but if I hear that again, I'm going to ask them if they think perhaps just maybe the fact that it's illegal has something to do with the fact that SOMEONE (???) is able to get to their kids and they have absolutely no idea whom that might be, nor what to do about it.

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Response to heaven05 (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:41 PM

13. Its bull shit!!! if they states decide something for themselves let it be!!!

 

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Response to heaven05 (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:48 PM

14. It's a real puzzle to me too

So I've come to the conclusion that it must be purely for political reasons. Perhaps President Obama doesn't want to open that particular can of worms with the opposition he has to fight every day of his life.

I just don't know. He claims to have 'evolved' about his view towards gay rights, but I suspect he was never against gay rights but he couldn't come out and say so because that would make things much worse for his administration. I think this may be another of those too hot to handle political decisions.

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