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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump's View on the Military was Profoundly Shaped by his Draft Avoidance during Vietnam
As we know, his wealthy father had a quack doctor jimmy up a fake diagnosis, and there were probably additional shenanigans with the Brooklyn-Queens draft board to get him his IV-F medical classification. He was fully qualified for the draft, had attended military school, and was by most accounts a passable student athlete at baseball (he himself, of course, claims that he could have been in the major leagues). There is little doubt that he would have been drafted upon completion of his student deferments (in June 1968!), and it's quite likely that he would have been sent to Vietnam, Republic of in the Winter 1968-1969. The months immediately after Trump's graduation from college, and the end of his student deferments, were among the bloodiest of the war (see especially Ronald Spector's excellent After Tet).
He was scared. As were many.
His rich father orchestrated his IV-F classification.
At the end of Tim O'Brien's story "On the Rainy River," O'Brien's narrator, in a similar situation to Trump, having completed his college deferments, is drafted, and contemplates fleeing to Canada. He gets halfway across a Minnesota river, almost there. At the end, however, he does not go. He returns, and is in short order sent to Vietnam. The story ends poignantly with the following two sentences: "I was a coward. I went to the war." O'Brien deliberately refuses to include a transition between the two clauses, leaving the reader to fill in the meaning (and then? because? however? and? but?).
For Trump, there's no need for the second sentence. Trump was a coward. And he knows it. Every utterance he makes about the military contains that fundamental psychological kernel.

getagrip_already
(17,634 posts)He was likely humiliated and demeaned rotinely. His world was collapsed while he was there and he blamed it all on military authority.
He hates military authority because it is a threat to him. It is bigger than his world and it cant exist.
Walleye
(38,795 posts)Irish_Dem
(65,879 posts)To make himself look better.
Prairie Gates
(4,433 posts)It sounds exactly like what his father would say as a self-justification for orchestrating the draft dodging.
Walleye
(38,795 posts)He joined the national guard in Texas to avoid the war in Vietnam. And he wanted to keep the illusion that he mightve been called up to go to Vietnam as a member of the National Guard when of course that didnt happen ever.
getagrip_already
(17,634 posts)He couldnt use the draft which would have been political poison so he tapped the guard for more troops.
Walleye
(38,795 posts)Ever since then the National Guard has been sent into active combat overseas, which didnt really happen that much before
getagrip_already
(17,634 posts)I worked with a guy in the 80's who was in the coadt guard and was deployed to nam during the war.
Walleye
(38,795 posts)I know it wasnt easy to get into you had to have connections, as I recall
getagrip_already
(17,634 posts)Usually those units were support, not combat.
Much less hazardous duty.
ExciteBike66
(2,694 posts)It is absolutely hilarious to me that trump embodies everything that conservatives hate on the issue of service in general and serving in Vietnam in particular.
getagrip_already
(17,634 posts)The conservatives have been purged. Those left have been shut up and have moved on to greed.
Walleye
(38,795 posts)orthoclad
(4,728 posts)aka fascists. Nothing conservative about them.
Walleye
(38,795 posts)Prairie Gates
(4,433 posts)If you were drafted by a Brooklyn-Queens draft board in Summer 1968, you can perhaps thank Donald Trump. If you made it back, that is...
Prairie Gates
(4,433 posts)From real draft resisters, to people having a moral/ethical dilemma (like O'Brien's narrator), to outright cowards who use deceit and actually support the war themselves. Trump's on the bad end of that spectrum for me. It's not an all or nothing thing. I admire many draft resisters, for instance. Nobody can admire somebody who was gung-ho for the war, but got their rich Daddy to buy them a IV-F because they didn't want to actually fight it themselves.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)Vietnam was pointless. Three million people died trying to prevent the government that we now consider a major trading partner. Ah, money talks.
Birth defects are still showing up from all the poisons we dumped on the land. And vets are still dying from Agent Orange.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)who bought deferments, just like all his friends. I'm sure they all thought they were sensible. Some, with political futures in mind, joined the Guard to guard against Cuban invasions (Bush).
It goes way back. Grandfather Drumpf left Germany to avoid military service, which is why they wouldn't let him back in when he tried to return.
Poor guys had harder choices during Vietnam: Canada, underground, or shitting your pants for a week before going to the physical (Ted Nugent). It was tough to get conscientious objector status. Many joined the Guard (but without the cushy jobs).