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douglas9

(4,514 posts)
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 05:40 AM Aug 2024

Trump says presidential civilian award is 'better' than top military honor whose recipients are 'dead' or 'hit' by bulle

BEDMINSTER, N.J. — Former President Donald Trump lauded a wealthy donor on whom he bestowed the Presidential Medal of Freedom as having gotten the "better" award compared to the top military honor, the Medal of Honor, because those recipients are often deceased or injured.

Speaking at a campaign event intended to discuss antisemitism, Trump was introduced by Miriam Adelson, a wealthy Republican donor and widow of Sheldon Adelson, who pumped millions of dollars of his own money into electing Republican candidates. He died in 2021.

“I watched Sheldon sitting so proud in the White House when we gave Miriam the Presidential Medal of Freedom," Trump said at his New Jersey resort.

"That’s the highest award you can get as a civilian. It’s the equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor," Trump continued, referring to the highest military honor bestowed for valor in combat. The Medal of Honor is often mistakenly called the Congressional Medal of Honor.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-presidential-civilian-award-better-top-military-honor-whose-rcna166855


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Trump says presidential civilian award is 'better' than top military honor whose recipients are 'dead' or 'hit' by bulle (Original Post) douglas9 Aug 2024 OP
What a dumbass! kentuck Aug 2024 #1
This "man" has made me have feelings I'm ashamed to have. nt oldsoftie Aug 2024 #2
Ugh! Back to bed, mister. Onthefly Aug 2024 #3
I HAD to make a 2nd post because he is such an asshole to equate the 2 oldsoftie Aug 2024 #4
And his cult will not care Woodwizard Aug 2024 #5
Because... 2naSalit Aug 2024 #6
Ditto! Linda ladeewolf Aug 2024 #34
Here it is BeyondGeography Aug 2024 #7
Yes, I think this pretty much sums up his attitude toward the the military and his "values" in general. ShazzieB Aug 2024 #25
.... CatWoman Aug 2024 #30
More evidence of his disdain for our people in uniform... Nt SomewhereInTheMiddle Aug 2024 #8
A medal you can buy Retrograde Aug 2024 #9
What a fool trump is. Unbelievable. mwb970 Aug 2024 #10
Trump thinks Miriam just needs a suck-up tune-up. Kid Berwyn Aug 2024 #11
Oh Brother, the man has the integrity of a low I.Q. cockroach. chouchou Aug 2024 #12
6 times Trump insulted US veterans and service members, progree Aug 2024 #13
And veterans love being insulted so openly IronLionZion Aug 2024 #14
fucking idiotic POS.... democratsruletheday Aug 2024 #17
TSF is a real POS BlueWavePsych Aug 2024 #19
Trump's presentation of the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Limbaugh.... 70sEraVet Aug 2024 #15
Annika Sorenstam played golf with him. Kingofalldems Aug 2024 #16
She is on my list of people I used to like. twodogsbarking Aug 2024 #32
Her and her husband are hard core Trump fans. Kingofalldems Aug 2024 #33
trump says a lot of things. Conjuay Aug 2024 #18
He's pissed because he didn't get a Medal of Honor for being shot at and no Purple Heart for the scratch on his hear. Ping Tung Aug 2024 #20
"I don't like American soldiers who were killed or hit by bullets" dalton99a Aug 2024 #21
Vile POS ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2024 #22
Lost in his unceasing maelstrom of bullshit. maxsolomon Aug 2024 #23
trump is such a selfish fucker gopiscrap Aug 2024 #24
Jeez Kev80 Aug 2024 #27
It's essentially a bogus award given to singers and Klarkashton Aug 2024 #26
Im sure his cultists will try to interpret or reframe The Third Doctor Aug 2024 #28
Any Presidential Medal of Freedom awarded by *rump would be infested with cooties. Uncle Joe Aug 2024 #29
I think Abstractartist Aug 2024 #31
I thought I couldn't hate that creature anymore than I already did. sarge43 Aug 2024 #35
Don't forget to wipe your mouth Donald. You drooled some shit on your chin. twodogsbarking Aug 2024 #36
This is one totally disabled The Wizard Aug 2024 #37
Rewarding the propagandists and dissing those who served. Fuck them all. Evolve Dammit Aug 2024 #38
VFW on Trump diminishing the Medal of Honor LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #39
The Medal of Freedom can be purchased under Trump. patphil Aug 2024 #40
 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
4. I HAD to make a 2nd post because he is such an asshole to equate the 2
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 05:46 AM
Aug 2024

There is NO comparison. The medal of freedom has been given to actors, comics, anyone really
The CMH has been given to people who have shown they have inside them what most of us do not but hope to have.
ASSHOLE ASSHOLE.

Woodwizard

(1,087 posts)
5. And his cult will not care
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 06:06 AM
Aug 2024

What a crazy time no matter what he says the cult does not budge.

Yet Howard Dean gets enthusiastic and it's the end of his candidacy.

I know Tim Walz was being diplomatic about maga people in his speech about them, I do have to disagree though, the ones I know are small minded selfish A Holes.

2naSalit

(94,426 posts)
6. Because...
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 06:11 AM
Aug 2024

I don't want a visit from those guys in suits, I'm going to refrain from saying what I think here. Just let it be known that it's close to whatever awfulness you can imagine.

BeyondGeography

(40,126 posts)
7. Here it is
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 06:12 AM
Aug 2024

Shot-up vets compared with “healthy beautiful woman” who just happens to be handing him more than $100 million.


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ShazzieB

(19,113 posts)
25. Yes, I think this pretty much sums up his attitude toward the the military and his "values" in general.
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 01:20 PM
Aug 2024

For him, a "healthy, beautiful woman" will always trump (pun intended) military heroes who are "either in very bad shape because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets or they’re dead."

What a disgusting piece of garbage. The Orange Hellbeast needs to go to hell where he belongs.

Retrograde

(10,819 posts)
9. A medal you can buy
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 06:25 AM
Aug 2024

at least during the Donnie administration- is of course better than one that has to be earned through extraordinary deeds of valor. Donold is truly someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing

Kid Berwyn

(18,734 posts)
11. Trump thinks Miriam just needs a suck-up tune-up.
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 08:41 AM
Aug 2024
Trump blasts billionaire GOP megadonor Miriam Adelson with angry text messages

https://www.salon.com/2024/08/12/blasts-billionaire-donor-with-angry-text-messages/

Personally, I admire Ms. Adelson because she once, in a symbolic move for the Ages, dropped her purse from the railing of the Gallery and onto the members of Congress below.

https://omaha.com/news/state_and_regional/ashford-at-netanyahu-speech-is-nearly-beaned-by-falling-purse-belonging-to-wife-of-major/article_b5392595-20b7-50db-9af0-eade63b762fa.html

Dollars from Heaven.

progree

(11,493 posts)
13. 6 times Trump insulted US veterans and service members,
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 08:50 AM
Aug 2024

Cardinal & Pine, 6/25/24,
https://cardinalpine.com/2024/06/25/times-trump-insulted-veterans/

Here are my notes on the article:

# Re John McCain in 2015: “He’s not a war hero,” Trump said. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

# Dissing a Gold Star family - Khizr and Gahala Khan—Pakistani Americans whose son, Humayan, died during the Iraq war in 2004—called out Trump for his public attacks on Muslims and implied that Trump had never read the Constitution. In a subsequent interview with ABC News, Trump suggested that Khizr Khan made the entire speech because his wife “wasn’t allowed” to speak, drawing on implications that all Muslim women are subservient to their spouses. In reality, the Khans said in a followup interview, Gahala Khan chose to remain silent because speaking about her son’s death was too painful. Trump also told ABC News that Humayan Khan “would be alive today” if he’d been president, also suggesting that the US never would have entered a war with Iraq under his leadership.

# 2017: Expressed distaste for wounded veterans -- The then-president was reportedly inspired by a 2017 military parade he witnessed during a visit to France and requested that a similarly opulent parade be planned for the 4th of July in Washington, DC. The catch? Trump asked that wounded veterans be excluded from the parade, telling Kelly that France’s parade had featured vets with visible injuries or in wheelchairs.
“Look, I don’t want any wounded guys in the parade,” Trump reportedly requested. “This doesn’t look good for me.”

# 2018: Called WWI casualties “losers” and “suckers” ... stating that he didn’t want to visit the cemetery because it was “filled with losers.” (Aisne-Marne American Military Cemetery outside Paris). Trump reportedly doubled down on his offensive comments later during the same trip to France, calling 1,800 US Marines “suckers” for being killed during the battle of Belleau Wood in 1918.

# 2018: Dismissed Navy SEAL Commander Adm. William McRaven -- The former president even suggested that McRaven took too much time in his efforts to capture bin Laden.

# 2020: Downplayed troops’ injuries following missile attack in Iraq - Eight US soldiers reportedly sought treatment for concussions or concussion-like symptoms in the aftermath of the attack on Ain al-Asad, while three others experienced psychological symptoms that led them to seek behavioral health treatment. Trump initially told the media that there were no US injuries. When questioned during a news conference about Pentagon reports of injured troops, he backtracked and downplayed the soldiers’ conditions, saying they were “not very serious.” “I heard that they had headaches and a couple of other things,” Trump continued. “I’ve seen people with no legs and no arms… I can consider them to be really bad injuries.”

IronLionZion

(47,315 posts)
14. And veterans love being insulted so openly
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 09:06 AM
Aug 2024

what's it going to take for him to lose these voters?

"But civilian version, it’s actually much better because everyone [who] gets the Congressional Medal of Honor, they're soldiers. They’re either in very bad shape because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets or they’re dead," Trump concluded. “She gets it, and she’s a healthy, beautiful woman, and they’re rated equal, but she got the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and she got it for — and that’s through committees and everything else.”

democratsruletheday

(1,229 posts)
17. fucking idiotic POS....
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 10:16 AM
Aug 2024

so sick of his stupid ass but not as much as his cultists who won't give him up

70sEraVet

(4,290 posts)
15. Trump's presentation of the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Limbaugh....
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 09:07 AM
Aug 2024

tarnished that medal eternity.

Ping Tung

(1,543 posts)
20. He's pissed because he didn't get a Medal of Honor for being shot at and no Purple Heart for the scratch on his hear.
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 10:54 AM
Aug 2024

maxsolomon

(35,524 posts)
23. Lost in his unceasing maelstrom of bullshit.
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 11:34 AM
Aug 2024

No one who needs convincing is ever going to hear this.

gopiscrap

(24,260 posts)
24. trump is such a selfish fucker
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 11:37 AM
Aug 2024

my father as a 17 year old enlisted at the tail end of WWII then fought and was injured in Korea, then posed as a clerk in the new East Germany and relayed info on the Communist activities there (risking his life) then was sent to Vietnam when we supposedly weren't there (at the very end of the Eisenhower administration and was shot. Three years later he died from those wounds. Fuck trump and his selfish asshole attitude. I was 7 when my father died and it left a profound impact on my life. So not only is that orange asshole shitting on those who served and gave their lives for us, he is also shitting on the families left behind. Fuck him and his flimsy bone spur excuse for a human!!!!!

Kev80

(36 posts)
27. Jeez
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 01:30 PM
Aug 2024

You know sometimes things hit you harder than they should? This is one of them. To lose your father at such a young age. You’re story brought our my empathetic side.

Klarkashton

(2,526 posts)
26. It's essentially a bogus award given to singers and
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 01:25 PM
Aug 2024

Dancers and other celebrities.

Trump has no idea whatever about any of this.
Someone should sit his ass down and have to read the official accounts of some of the Medal of Honor recipients out load in front of the press.

The Third Doctor

(402 posts)
28. Im sure his cultists will try to interpret or reframe
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 01:46 PM
Aug 2024

What he said. This guy was commander and chief? Smh

Uncle Joe

(60,376 posts)
29. Any Presidential Medal of Freedom awarded by *rump would be infested with cooties.
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 01:47 PM
Aug 2024

Thanks for the thread douglas.

Abstractartist

(175 posts)
31. I think
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 02:07 PM
Aug 2024

I think EVERY military member, from the phenomenal private to the top general should vote against trump. This and all the other statements he has made against the military, it’s fighting force, Senator McCain, POWs, husbands and wives of the soldiers, etc, are horrendous, abysmal, traitorous and not fit to be a commander in chief.

The Wizard

(12,997 posts)
37. This is one totally disabled
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 06:52 PM
Aug 2024

Vietnam combat vet who's really tired of his disparaging comments. He's lower than steaming dog shit on an August afternoon.

patphil

(7,244 posts)
40. The Medal of Freedom can be purchased under Trump.
Sat Aug 17, 2024, 05:55 PM
Aug 2024

It's no longer an acknowledgement of service to the government or to the nation, only to the campaign, or party.
It's inherently worthless.

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