The quiet part of 'Biden is too old'

[speak easy]

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was, Joe won't make it through the next term, so instead you will be voting for a unpopular black woman.

That's over, and Kamala is popular. Flipping it around, Trump is the oldest nominee in history. He's too old!

Vance is wildly unprepared and unpopular, an isolationist, a Silicon Valley stooge, with the most extreme views on abortion and women, AND he is Mr. Project 2025 himself.

I think this should be a/the focus of Dem ads about TSF's cognitive decline; he won't make it through the next term: Trump is too old. You'll be getting Vance.

EDIT: 'Vote for Trump and you get Vance; 'But Trump is as strong as a bull-moose.'VPs don't lose the nomination. You would get JD in four years time, or earlier if Trump drops dead. But Vance may not win in 2028? So why give him a chance now? I vote Republican. Fine. But before you take the ticket, know the destination. That guy is really weird. ...etc.

[MiHale]

1. Hammer meet nail..👍

[KPN]

22. Yes. And hammer that nail! If thr shoe wss onbthe other

foot, the mainstream corporate media would have hammered it for Repugs. Chances they will do it got us, Democrats? Meh … maybe tsp a few brads.

[Lonestarblue]

2. I've been making this comment on WaPo and NYT articles since Vance became the nominee.

Even Republicans think he is not qualified, but they’re probably thinking that Trump will last forever. He won’t.

[._.]

3. Forever..

I don't think Trump gonna make it to election day.

[KPN]

23. Cool!

[Scrivener7]

4. I remember someone called out their fear of Kamala in a way that

made me laugh. I can't remember who said it, but they said, "Their problem with Biden being old is that she's black."

[liberalla]

37. Now that's funny! I heard something similar but your phrase is short and sharp!

Perfect.

[Scrivener7]

38. I can't take credit, but I CAN pass it along.

[liberalla]

39. and I thank you very much!

[Johnny2X2X]

5. Yup

Vance is Trump's Sarah Palin, wholely unqualified and in no way ready.

And another thing that is a factor too, is who will be the VP. People have it in their minds that a ticket is a pair, that they govern as a pair. And even though that's not really true, there's the unknown of who the VP will select as their own VP should they assume the presidency. So people, even if they don't know it, were thinking that if Biden can't finish his term, the Biden Harris Presidency was being replaced with just Harris.

[speak easy]

6. Trump would not be governing with Vance,

Trump is all about Trump, and nothing else.

[Johnny2X2X]

7. Yeah

But Trump's chances of finishing the term are quite low and Vance is simply not ready.

Aging is odd, it's a little biut at a time and then a lot at once. Trump could fall off a cliff any day now mentally.

[speak easy]

8. The Heritage Foundation did not put all that work into Project 2025 for nothing.

Vance is their man. They won't want to see Trump see out that much of his term.

[Wednesdays]

16. "Trump could fall off a cliff any day now mentally."

There's talk of that happening already!

https://newrepublic.com/post/184720/trump-campaign-schedule-august-mental-fitness
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219326348
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219327147

[COL Mustard]

18. You don't think he's already

Fallen off that cliff? Like the Coyote in the old cartoons?

[Johnny2X2X]

19. I think they are definitely hiding something about his health

Maybe Alzheimers, which runs in his family, maybe something else.

The media, once again, is derilect of their duty. They had their convention and in the 3-1/2 weeks since, he's done 4 campaign stops and a press conference. If that were Biden not campaigning after the Dem convention, the media would be going on endlessly about how he needs to be replaced. And that's not to mention the speech slurring and lisping last night.

[Dave says]

40. That's just 4 stops when he's neck and neck to trailing

If he were in the lead, that's one thing. But this ain't normal.

[Johnny2X2X]

42. You watch what Kamala and Walz do

Last week was barnstorm, this week is more split up for fund raising, next week the convention, then you will see them doing 2 events a day for at least a week after the convention. And I'd bet they're both already doing debate prep in their free time.

It's a brutal schedule to run a presidential campaign. That's one of the reasons Biden had his own questions, could he keep a campaign schedule like is required to beat Trump.

These campaign stops are still ultra important, there's no faking them. Seeing a candidate in your home state or home town is meaningful to voters close to an election, "Hey, at least this person cares enough to come talk to us."

[no_hypocrisy]

9. I see a contradiction about Kamala Harris

Supposedly, there was fear of Kamala Harris assuming the presidency if Joe Biden died in office.

But . . . . now that she's actually running for office, she's suddenly "popular".

It's the same person.

I don't get it unless you're making an argument for marketing.

[JI7]

12. The ones fearmongering were racist right wingers

They still oppose her and thought they could appeal to more people based on the bigotry.

[no_hypocrisy]

13. OK, deluded and illogical, but I suppose it made sense to them.

[wnylib]

10. This is a good idea, IMO. Hit both the aging Trump and the incompetent Vance.

And remind people that if Vance has to take over for Trump, it is Vance who is most closely associated with Project 2025.

[AllaN01Bear]

25. donOLD.!!!!!! lol

[Beartracks]

11. Trump is the stooge to foist a Christian Nationalist into the White House.

Trump is the Heritage Foundation's useful idiot to utterly break the separation of church and state by getting Vance into the White House, plus a bunch of extremists riding his coattails through state elections and Project 2025. America wouldn't elect Vance directly, so HF is hitching their wagon to Trump.

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[speak easy]

14. Disagree.

Trump is unreliable stooge, and becoming less reliable by the month. If Trump/Vance win, he won't be long for this world. The Heritage Foundation did not put all that work into Project 2025 for nothing.

[Beartracks]

15. We actually agree.

You completed my thought process there. They just need Trump to hang in there long enough to get through the election, and if Trump/Vance manages to win, then they wouldn't need Trump anymore. But he certainly does appear to be getting less reliable by the day.

[speak easy]

17. JD Vance: One Big Mac away from the presidency.

[jaxexpat]

20. Very good bumper sticker approach. Should be effective at making people think through the implications.

Painting Vance as an unacceptably and dangerously radical loser needs to be the second front of political add saturation. Such a lying provocateur as he cannot be allowed near the oval office. If he weren't so short on self-awareness, he might be a genuine person. As he is, he's simply a fraud in every aspect of his public presentation. Point it out at every turn.

[Brainfodder]

21. After September 18th sentencing, the drop off should be BEAUTIFUL!

[AllaN01Bear]

27. so badly want him in an orange jump suit and doing the perp walk,

but alas my crystal ball and gaydar have been broken for years !!!!

[Brainfodder]

28. I can't see 34 felonies sentencing with a wrist slap when MILLIONS of benefit was had plus the threats and contempts.

The judge decides, and would you be lenient on anyone who behaved his way on 34 counts?

I just don't see it without Korruption.

Will his insanity pleas of the future go through?

[Zoomie1986]

29. It's not about corruption

You know what corrupt judges actually do? Sentence people who commit low-grade felonies like petty theft or TSF's crime the way that they do kidnapping. All other judges understand that the punishment must fit the level of crime committed.

You seem to think the felonies are just short of those for murder or armed robbery. Instead, they're more like the felonies just above misdemeanors like shoplifting and disturbing the peace. And do you really think a rich white guy with 34 counts of disturbing the peace winds up in the slammer? Please.

The most likely sentence he'll get is probation and fines, because that's how most judges rule with a first-time conviction for that kind of felony. The only way the number of times will matter is in deciding how long the probation will be, and how big the fines.

[Xavier Breath]

34. Probation and fines sounds about right.

It's fun to think about 45 in an orange jumpsuit, but I believe it's not realistic to expect. There's going to be a lot of angry and disappointed people here when the sentence is announced, and I'll be certainly be one of them. But, thanks to my black-hearted cynicism, I won't be the least bit surprised.

[MichMan]

41. Why would the sentencing guidelines allow up to 4 years in jail for each count then?

[Brainfodder]

43. Nope, going with guidelines with up to 4 years in prison per charge, 34 charges is a pattern, no isolated crime?

Threatening judges+ and 10 contempt charges during the trial, and you still think wrist slapping?

Don't give him space, he deserves ZERO!

[meow2u3]

24. Unpopular black woman my size 12 foot

Kamala is very popular. She and Tim "Coach" Walz are down to earth. Only the media and the elite regard her as unpopular because she doesn't cater to rich white men who think the world owes them a living.

[speak easy]

30. When Biden was the presumptive nominee,

that was the racist dog whistle.

[onetexan]

26. Kamala is the opposite of an unpopluar black woman

She is now the nominee of the party, and aoon to be president.

[speak easy]

31. See #30.

[flying_wahini]

32. Which is exactly why the Project folks are running Trump. It was always about Vance being in charge.

They don’t care what he does; as soon as Trump ‘wins’ I expect a medical problem
that will require him to step aside.

[pat_k]

33. One old man's heartbeat away from our highest office. (nt)

[Bev54]

35. It is not Trump's age that makes him unfit as Joe's age certainly did not make him unfit.

It is Trump's lifestyle, which could make him keel over anytime but mostly it is the fact he is a criminal moron who should not be close to any position of power. He needs to be in prison not the White house.

[wordstroken]

36. Sounds like an excellent strategy!!!

I hope the Dem leaders pick up on that focus!!
Thanks, speak easy!!

[muriel_volestrangler]

44. I think the focus of ads should be that Trump is a rapist

Powerful, simple, determined in a court of law. Mention the charges of electoral fraud and stealing classified info that are pending, too. Fine, mention his cognitive decline too, saying that his awful impulses that his life has showed will be uncontrolled.

[speak easy]

46. They Know That. It''s old news. Not sexy..

Vance on the other hand is the bright new ugly object. If you want to draw attention to Trump's age and cognitive decline, Vance is a way to do it. Project 2025? ditto.

[Self Esteem]

45. I think that was part of it but I think it was also hitting him on his competeny.

He's too old to do the job. The biggest attack any candidate can have toward another in presidential politics is the competency of that person. Once their competency is doubted, they're cooked. It's a big reason Trump lost reelection in 2020 and very likely might be why he loses in 2024.