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Tim Walz's normal dad energy is causing MAGA to come ungluedWalz is the opposite of weird: Kamala Harris' running mate shows masculinity can be about love and not hate
By Amanda Marcotte
Senior Writer
Published August 8, 2024 6:00AM (EDT)
(Salon) In their first go-round in attacking Gov. Tim Walz, the Donald Trump campaign bet that maximum hyperbole could hoodwink people into dismissing the "chill dad" demeanor of Vice President Kamala Harris's new running mate. "Tim Walz will unleash hell on Earth!" a Trump fundraising email said of the former high school football coach turned top Minnesota executive. The campaign followed up with a barrage of emails describing the affable Midwesterner as "Dangerously Liberal," in clear hopes that brute repetition would distract voters from the fact that Walz reads more like "Ted Lasso" than "Che Guevara."
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Dubbing Walz "Tampon Tim" appears to have been kicked off by popular right-wing troll Phillip Buchanan, who goes by the Twitter handle "Catturd." As documented by Media Matters, the slur took off rapidly across the MAGA internet, with users photoshopping pictures of Walz surrounded by tampons. Within an hour, it had been informally picked up by the Trump campaign, with longtime Trump aide and speechwriter Stephen Miller amplifying the nickname. It all appeared to be a race to prove that MAGA is full of weirdoes with deep psychological issues.
The impetus for this freakout was a bill signed by Walz last year requiring public schools to make menstrual products available to students at no charge. The bill was the result of student activists and medical professionals making irrefutable arguments such as, "Teenagers dont know when they will get their period," and "We cannot learn while we are leaking." Schools have toilet paper and school nurses, so why not provide this small amount of help? No one benefits, except the bullies, if students get blood on their clothes and on the furniture.
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As a male friend texted me, "there is a genuine hunger out there I see it in many of my students for some kind of positive model of how to be in the world as a straight white dude." Trump and his acolytes offer an exhausting and harmful model, that is entitled, rage-fueled, and its heart, deeply insecure. Walz, however, seems comfortable in his own skin. He shows there's nothing wrong with liking football and fixing your own car both are fine uses of a person's time! All that "traditional man" stuff can live quite comfortably with "woke" ideas like "women are people, too." As Walz has persuasively posited, his is the more normal way to be. It's the MAGA try-hards who are the weirdoes. The phrase "tonic masculinity" in opposition to the toxic masculinity of MAGA soon started to spread online. ..........(more)
https://www.salon.com/2024/08/08/tim-walzs-normal-energy-is-causing-maga-to-come-unglued/
LearnedHand
(3,900 posts)Love it. Such a healthy view!
Coexist
(25,514 posts)CaptainTruth
(7,114 posts)I haven't had coffee yet.
et tu
(1,766 posts)Aristus
(67,852 posts)Next time I have a G&T, I'm calling it my tonic masculinity!
raising2moredems
(700 posts)And I'm glad this very thought will get the theocrats-men-in-charge cretins all riled up.
BoRaGard
(2,388 posts)newdeal2
(670 posts)Im always saddened when I see males 18-30 who are supporting TFG.
raising2moredems
(700 posts)At best momma's boys and/or filled with men-in-charge crap from too many "christian" religions. They will never be men and will continue to live in their childhood bedroom or someone's basement. Educated women certainly want nothing to do with them nor should any women. I think there needs to be a safe haven for females looking to escape religious brainwashing. Having no money and/or education all too often results in bad, bad, bad marriages.
Cosmocat
(14,868 posts)of just how insane they are.
How on earth does that seem like a good idea?
Think. Again.
(16,356 posts)raising2moredems
(700 posts)And kudos to any male who can discuss menstruation and feminine hygiene in adult manner. I bet Tim would go to the store and purchase whatever his wife/daughter/friend/stranger needed without a hint of discomfort. He's a man. TFOG and Vance would evacuate a brick if the GP, why-did-I-marry-him, and/or daughters asked them to go to the store.
madaboutharry
(41,122 posts)So much ick.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(2,864 posts)madaboutharry
(41,122 posts)Mean girls bullied me about my curly hair.
Irish_Dem
(55,824 posts)Lonestarblue
(11,366 posts)Maybe dweeb Hawley should revise his book calling for extreme domination of women and children!
erronis
(16,589 posts)IronLionZion
(46,795 posts)because MAGA are just plain weird.
Link to tweet
It's tonic masculinity: it helps and heals, instead of harming. It's the antidote to toxic, and I love it.
Clouds Passing
(1,440 posts)Did they think its supposed to be demeaning to have your menstrual cycle?!
The only thing thats demeaning is their own crazy messed up thinking! Keep on hating women you idiots and you will continue to lose.
haele
(13,291 posts)We have to deal with menstruation. And we typically deal with it privately, as it's a personal matter.
Boys can't comprehend what it's like (unless they have older sisters) and frankly, even with decent sex education, the idea of menstruation confuses them. They don't understand the variations of the way it presents among individual women, and it seems like a weird disease that they don't want to catch.
Hence, menstrual hits and proscriptions against women that are menstruating. They are afraid of catching a period and how being around it, they might start bleeding and become weaker.
Haele
Clouds Passing
(1,440 posts)Good one
uponit7771
(91,258 posts)hibbing
(10,376 posts)Luckily, I grew up in a household where this actually was the norm. Getting so tired of the macho bullshit from his supporters when their dear leader is the biggest, whiniest crybaby about EVERYTHING.
Forward!
slightlv
(3,886 posts)where Walz attitude was the norm. As wonderful as my Dad was, I grew up in the 50's and 60's, and these things were just not discussed, especially in mixed company. Still, I felt free enough to tell my Dad if I needed tampons (and exactly what to get) if he was headed to the store, even if it was a little embarrassing to both of us.
AverageOldGuy
(1,886 posts)Demented
Sick
Mad dogs
Psycho
Infantile
CaptainTruth
(7,114 posts)Butterflylady
(3,885 posts)Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)Sometimes you have to go with what works and not with what you wish would work.
evolves
(5,571 posts)Thank you for the link!
Werent they the ones wearing maxi-pads on their ears?
geardaddy
(25,299 posts)Taking the sting out of the idiocy that the reichwing thinks it's so clever.
BrightKnight
(3,675 posts)BrightKnight
(3,675 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 8, 2024, 01:05 PM - Edit history (1)
It is dying skill and Walz is a good example of how to do it. A good coach teaches a lot more than football.
Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)If they don't have good role models or guides, then the messages they get about being a 'real' man from society and culture are often confusing when they're not toxic.
The only way most of them learn authenticity is to go out there and live it with the tools they have. The smarter ones will learn after screwing up--man, that really backfired on me, don't do that again. The dirtbags will say, it felt good to hurt people or piss them off that way, do it again!
Until we find a way to change how we create authentic men, thus it will always be.
sarchasm
(1,168 posts)So inspiring
and for the rest of us as human beings
Harris and Walz are exemplary humans IMO
Thank you Kamala Harris for this masterful first order presidential decision!
cf45 is going down what's hs name again
i can't recall lol lol lol
IbogaProject
(3,392 posts)Free breakfast and lunch just makes the whole process easier, the administrative costs are lower and it causes more stable demand for the meals, which reduces food waste. Then the long term cost savings to make sure more kids are well fed will pay off in spades over the decades ahead. These MAGAts are so full of a zero sum world view they can't understand sharing and mutual cooperation. Their 'tax cuts' reduce economic growth, every GOP tax shift has hurt the economy.
Beartracks
(13,337 posts)================
liberalla
(9,800 posts)delivered an excellent description of the warped "toxic" versus "tonic" masculinity. This whole thread was well worth the time to read. Tim Walz is a new model for healthy masculinity, confidence and caring for young men.
We have hit the jackpot folks! Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are exactly what America needs right now!