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PatrickforB

(15,007 posts)
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 01:26 PM Aug 6

Thoughts on the MSNBC morning show narrative on Walz.

"Walz is the safe choice."

The effort by the Trump campaign to pull the Harris campaign to the left...

Wedge issue with Jewish voters.

Anti-Semitism in the party.

We thought it would be Shapiro because he is more centrist.

Blah, blah, blah...

Remember, all of you, that MSNBC is owned by Comcast, which is publicly traded. The big fund managers lean on Comcast corporate officers, and Comcast corporate officers lean on executive producers and directors.

The 'street' WANTS a horserace, so Andrea Mitchell, and the guy before her, as well as Morning Joe were careful to lay out this narrative. Better for ratings, which increases advertising revenue, which generates higher SHAREHOLDER PROFITS.

Nothing about truth in news, just the absolute fiduciary responsibility to generate profits for shareholders.

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Thoughts on the MSNBC morning show narrative on Walz. (Original Post) PatrickforB Aug 6 OP
The polls will call it close displaced in ID Aug 6 #1
Either way, they dutifully parrot right wing framing Cosmocat Aug 6 #2
There's some inside the beltway bias, too. yardwork Aug 6 #3
The Fly Over part of the nation generally feels left out Attilatheblond Aug 6 #6
Andrea Mitchell is one of the worse on MSNBC LiberalFighter Aug 6 #4
Bernie Sanders supported Walz SocialDemocrat61 Aug 6 #5
There was nuance in my post. PatrickforB Aug 6 #8
I understand what you're saying SocialDemocrat61 Aug 6 #10
I watched MSNBC this morning and they were all glowing CarlYasutomo Aug 6 #7
Yeah they were...........AFTER their 'person in the street' interviews showed lots of positive PatrickforB Aug 6 #9
You must have missed Joey Scar and Andrew Ross Sorkin SocialDemocrat61 Aug 6 #11

displaced in ID

(20 posts)
1. The polls will call it close
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 01:29 PM
Aug 6

Nothing spurs a horse race better than made up polls to be used by the 24-hr news industry to assure that nobody ever gets too far ahead or behind. Profit is king.

yardwork

(63,583 posts)
3. There's some inside the beltway bias, too.
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 01:35 PM
Aug 6

They can't come right out and say it but plenty of the talking heads sneer at people who live in the midwest and south. And that's precisely the problem. It's why so many Americans feel left behind.

Tim Walz is younger than me, but he reminds me of my high school teachers. The ones I liked, and learned from, even though they were very different from my academic family who weren't from around where I grew up. Walz is the real deal. As someone else said, he's everything Vance pretends to be and isn't.

LiberalFighter

(53,281 posts)
4. Andrea Mitchell is one of the worse on MSNBC
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 01:55 PM
Aug 6

Be selective of what you hear. Question what you hear when it doesn't jive or seems biased.

From 10 am to 4 pm there is more bias.

There is bias with Morning Joe but there is some good reporting or opinion. Joe talks to much and talks over others.

4 pm to 6 pm is good.
8 pm to 9 pm is good
10 pm to 11 pm is good

Rachel Maddow on Mondays too.

PatrickforB

(15,007 posts)
8. There was nuance in my post.
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 03:46 PM
Aug 6

Here is the entire narrative:

The morning MSNBC heads said that they (and Wall Street and CEOs) were thinking it would be (hoping for) Shapiro.

Shapiro is Jewish. Shapiro also was once a member of Israel's IDF.

He made anti-Palestinian statements at some indeterminate past time. For some reason he is perceived by Wall Street and corporate CEOs as being somehow more business-friendly. This is as opposed to Walz who is actually very pro-union which is an unpopular position in corporate America and Wall Street.

Thus, Wall Street and CEOs were 'hoping' for Shapiro and advanced the narrative that he is more a centrist, while Walz seems more progressive and several advanced the 'concern' that Walz would thus drive away centrists.

This is because the Wall Street narrative has for many years been that America is center right. This, of course is NOT true. The truth is that the American public overwhelmingly supports those so-called 'far left lib-rul progressive' issues - things like school lunches, infrastructure repair, childcare, healthcare, affordable education, abortion access, birth control access, IVF access, strengthening Social Security and Medicare so on. These are kitchen table issues all of us worry about.

Many GenZ voters, the young kids, and many Muslim Democrats in Michigan pushed back hard on Biden's seemingly unqualified support of Israel in the face of the Hamas attack, because they saw what Netanyahu's IDF had done in leveling Gaza and creating the humanitarian crisis there. Many of the kids were saying they weren't voting Democratic because of this - instead they would sit it out.

The Wall Street horserace driven media frames this pro-Palestinian stance as being anti-semitic, because it is a good wedge and supports the 'Democrats in disarray' dialog. Thus, according to this media framing, progressives (which are anathema to Wall Street) are 'anti-semitic'. Again this wedge that has been driven into our party by the media, for the purpose of generating maximal profits through creating a perception this election, which we will likely win by a massive landslide is actually a 'horserace.'

So it is NOT Walz that I was saying was anti-semitic, but the PERCEPTION advanced by the mainstream (publicly traded for-profit) media that there is an anti-semitic progressive element in the Democratic party and that that Walz is progressive as opposed to mainstream.

This nuance is what I was alluding to in the original OP.

SocialDemocrat61

(2,463 posts)
10. I understand what you're saying
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 05:09 PM
Aug 6

I’m just tired of the anti-semitism argument for anyone who didn’t support Shapiro, which some are still using including in this forum.

CarlYasutomo

(64 posts)
7. I watched MSNBC this morning and they were all glowing
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 03:31 PM
Aug 6

Lots of positive comments and praise for Walz and Harris's decision to choose him.

PatrickforB

(15,007 posts)
9. Yeah they were...........AFTER their 'person in the street' interviews showed lots of positive
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 03:50 PM
Aug 6

comments and enthusiasm. I guess they just had to advance these questions about Harris' decision right off the bat because that's how they do.

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