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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:45 PM Dec 2012

Something big just happened in Egypt right now. Something very big. (Pt 2)

100s of Thousands of Tahrir Protesters are back (the last estimate I saw in a news article was 200,000+), President Morsi has fled the Palace, the Central Security Forces abandoned their posts and many removed their uniforms and joined the people to protest.

It's 3am there now but a vigilant contingent has erected tents in Tahrir and in front of the palace again.



Livestream:

ONtv Live from #Cairo. Thousands in Tahrir Sq. http://www.livestream.com/ontveglive #Anonymous #OSF #OO #OWS #OpGlobalSpring engaged!




PS, Dear God, please don't let this turn into another one of those 2 week running, 1001 part threads. Please.

Link to Part 1: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021926897


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Something big just happened in Egypt right now. Something very big. (Pt 2) (Original Post) Catherina Dec 2012 OP
It Must be Really Big, Part 1 Was Too Big for my Browser to Load AndyTiedye Dec 2012 #1
I'm so sorry. Basically Morsi has fled the palace and the protestors have taken over Tahrir Square Catherina Dec 2012 #3
What are you talking about??? Makes no sense. madinmaryland Dec 2012 #2
Thanks. I edited the post to try to make it clearer. n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #4
wow riverwalker Dec 2012 #5
was not aware....amazing riverwalker Dec 2012 #6
video of Morsey leaving palace riverwalker Dec 2012 #7
Beautiful! n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #10
3 am, yet another march heading to the presidential palace &another one heading to #Tahrir Catherina Dec 2012 #8
Gorgeous Pic: Marching on the presidential palace Catherina Dec 2012 #9
More demonstrations? I think Morsi still has the votes. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #11
Democracy at work. Octafish Dec 2012 #12
And very great to see you Catherina Dec 2012 #13
Pic: 2.40am #PalaceMarch walking back through town. It's a big march Catherina Dec 2012 #14
So, will the Constitution pass or fail? Coyotl Dec 2012 #15
It will pass over their dead bodies is the feeling I'm getting. n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #16
That seems incendiary. Coyotl Dec 2012 #22
Not necessarily. It is all about the social contract. Live and Learn Dec 2012 #29
Catherina, I truly appreciate your dispatches! slackmaster Dec 2012 #17
There you go, sweet-talking me Catherina Dec 2012 #21
These really aren't the same protestors from Arab Spring leftstreet Dec 2012 #18
11 Newspapers refuse to print in protest .... 3 television channels also Catherina Dec 2012 #19
Kick. Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #20
Thanks for keeping us up to date. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #23
Tear Gas is good for the sinuses. It really clears your head. alfredo Dec 2012 #26
Well said sadly. n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #28
+1 n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #27
K&R and thank you! nt. druidity33 Dec 2012 #24
CNN is now reporting alfredo Dec 2012 #25
OMG CNN! Catherina Dec 2012 #30
Morsi's officials don't seem to be able to get their stories straight pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #35
I noticed that lol. Catherina Dec 2012 #38
LOL! pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #39
I wonder how Faux Neuz is reporting it? alfredo Dec 2012 #53
Excellent Egyptian response to CNN's dishonest reporting Catherina Dec 2012 #43
25 million? (seems a bit high but what do I know) Catherina Dec 2012 #31
message to #Morsi, listen & don't play deaf! (video) Catherina Dec 2012 #32
Mubarak with a beard? Excellent read of new dynamics between #USA and #Egypt Catherina Dec 2012 #33
True soldiary in #Egypt this video shows it all Catherina Dec 2012 #34
More CSF heading to Pres Palace now Catherina Dec 2012 #36
K&R! Thank you very much for the information! Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #37
You're welcome. It's a pleasure. Besides I can't help it being a revolution addict lol Catherina Dec 2012 #41
I remember when you started it all...with tweets :) pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #42
Yes! Yes, that's exactly it! Catherina Dec 2012 #44
Sabrina! I should have known! pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #47
Hey pinboy, haven't see you in a while...how goes it? AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #48
Hangin' in there, Joe pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #49
These things take time. There's a lot of capital and geopolitical issues at stake Catherina Dec 2012 #50
Goodnight, my friend pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #51
AJA: "opposition to Morsi is funded by Iran" Catherina Dec 2012 #40
Whoever this kasimf moron is, he's talking out of his ass. AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #45
Totally surreal Catherina Dec 2012 #46
Dec 5 Updates in a new thread Catherina Dec 2012 #52
K&R Dokkie Dec 2012 #54

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
1. It Must be Really Big, Part 1 Was Too Big for my Browser to Load
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:47 PM
Dec 2012

I only have 8 gig of memory and a terrabyte of hard disk.

This one loads, but is somewhat mystifying.

No idea what it's about, there isn't any audio and all the text crawling by is in Arabic.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
3. I'm so sorry. Basically Morsi has fled the palace and the protestors have taken over Tahrir Square
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:51 PM
Dec 2012

They're not done with their revolution.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
6. was not aware....amazing
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:01 PM
Dec 2012

TheBigPharaohThe Big Pharaoh8h


TV picture showing both Tahrir & Presidential Palace from a high place. Stunning. Unbelievable. شوفوا دي. pic.twitter.com/YERvJQeS

:large

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
7. video of Morsey leaving palace
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:07 PM
Dec 2012

Thx @SultanAlQassemi for this exclusive footage of #Morsy motorcade leaving amidst protesters shouting IRHAL! Leave!

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
8. 3 am, yet another march heading to the presidential palace &another one heading to #Tahrir
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:14 PM
Dec 2012

Heba Farouk Mahfouz. ?@HebaFarooq

it's 3 am & there is yet another march heading to the presidential palace &another one heading to #Tahrir I love my crazy Cairo people ?

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
9. Gorgeous Pic: Marching on the presidential palace
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:21 PM
Dec 2012

Marching on the presidential palace مسيرة العباسية تصل كوبري القبة في طريقها إلى الإتحادية by Hossam el-Hamalawy حسام الحملاوي / © Some rights reserved.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
11. More demonstrations? I think Morsi still has the votes.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:28 PM
Dec 2012

Referendum on the constution in less than two weeks.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
12. Democracy at work.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:32 PM
Dec 2012




Protesting Morsi: Egypt’s Constitutional Court Closes

By Ria Novosti
Global Research, December 04, 2012

Egypt’s Supreme Constitutional Court has halted its work “indefinitely” after protesters prevented justices from getting to their offices on Sunday morning.

The court building is being blockaded by protesters who support President Mohamed Morsi and his November 22 “Constitutional Declaration.”

The justices “were not able to get into the court building and do their job because of the massed people blocking the way and shouting threats (against them),” the court said in a statement announced on Egyptian television.

The halt indefinitely postpones a court decision on whether to dissolve both the commission that drafted the new Constitution and the Shura Council, the upper house of parliament.

CONTINUED...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/protesting-morsi-egypts-constitutional-court-closes/5313873



May the Egyptian people transition safely to a better way of governance.

Thanks for the heads-up, Catherina! Very, very great to read you!

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
13. And very great to see you
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:48 PM
Dec 2012

Though I read you a lot here, with admiration. I was just trying not to get sucked in again lol.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
14. Pic: 2.40am #PalaceMarch walking back through town. It's a big march
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:50 PM
Dec 2012

The march is heading to Tahrir right now.


lfkraus ?@lfkraus

MT @Egyptocracy: 2.40am EET #PalaceMarch walking back through town. It's a big march. #Egypt #Tahrir screenshot f OnTV: pic.twitter.com/OcnlzBnR

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
22. That seems incendiary.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:14 PM
Dec 2012

What happened to democracy? Being a minority in a democracy means you get to live, right?

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
29. Not necessarily. It is all about the social contract.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:44 AM
Dec 2012

If you break it and make the masses mad, there are no guarantees.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
21. There you go, sweet-talking me
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:10 PM
Dec 2012

to suck me back in and I see Luminous Animal in on the act too

Thank you. I love doing it and appreciate the support

leftstreet

(36,064 posts)
18. These really aren't the same protestors from Arab Spring
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:56 PM
Dec 2012

Nor are the issues the same

But it's certainly newsworthy

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
19. 11 Newspapers refuse to print in protest .... 3 television channels also
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:56 PM
Dec 2012

Jano Charbel ?@JanoCharbel

#Egypt: 11 Newspapers refuse to print in protest against tyranny http://www.france24.com/en/20121204-egypt-press-refuses-print-protest-tyranny … #Journalism #Press #PressFreedom #Strike #FuckMorsi!



I lost the tweet about the TV channels but it was there

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
23. Thanks for keeping us up to date.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:56 PM
Dec 2012

I can tell you that protesting with the NYPD walking around with clubs was scary enough. Those people are BRAVE!

alfredo

(60,060 posts)
26. Tear Gas is good for the sinuses. It really clears your head.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:34 AM
Dec 2012

Billy clubs help you focus on what is important.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
30. OMG CNN!
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:47 AM
Dec 2012
"The Freedom and Justice Party -- an Islamist political group that has links to the Muslim Brotherhood -- is the party of President Mohamed Morsy."

links? links? That's like saying the Democratic Party has *links* to Obama.


"Morsy was not at the palace when the protesters descended, his office said. He was out meeting with government officials, they said."

LMAO!

"They feel the constitution does not sufficiently protect freedom of the press and, on Tuesday, a dozen partisan and privately-owned papers were not on the newsstands in protest."

Really? Is that all CNN?

Thanks for posting this Alfredo. Great pics



pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
35. Morsi's officials don't seem to be able to get their stories straight
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 01:58 AM
Dec 2012

Two more versions of his departure from the palace:

.... Morsi was in the palace conducting business as usual while the protesters gathered outside. But he left for home through a back door when the crowds "grew bigger," according to a presidential official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to reporters.

The official said Morsi left on the advice of security officials at the palace and to head off "possible dangers" and to calm protesters. Morsi's spokesman, however, said the president left the palace at the end of his work schedule through the door he routinely uses.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57557045/egypt-protesters-swell-to-over-100000/



pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
39. LOL!
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:33 AM
Dec 2012

I was tempted to post in the first thread to ask when we'd see Part 2.

The Jan. 25 Revolution continues!



Catherina

(35,568 posts)
31. 25 million? (seems a bit high but what do I know)
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 01:31 AM
Dec 2012

shaimaa khalil ?@Shaimaakhalil

Crowds outside presidential palace in #Cairo ...I haven't seen anything like this before..Not even in #Jan25 #Egypt




حــريــتــى حــريــتــى ?@NeveenCavalli

25mil Egyptians fill streets and sq's of #Egypt cities to protest #Morsi decree.This crowd is outside president palace



Mostafa Sheshtawy ?@msheshtawy

Walking side by side with people who believe in the cause. Chanting at the top of your lungs, the ground shakes. This is #jan25



Bassem Sabry باسم ?@Bassem_Sabry

The spirit in #Tahrir is very charged, very determined. This is the spirit of #Jan25.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
32. message to #Morsi, listen & don't play deaf! (video)
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 01:36 AM
Dec 2012

Nehaya Nashed ?@nehayanashed

A message to #Morsi, listen & don't play deaf! أنا الشعب !!!

via @shehabmarzban #NowPlaying #Egypt #Tahrir #Etehadeya

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
33. Mubarak with a beard? Excellent read of new dynamics between #USA and #Egypt
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 01:40 AM
Dec 2012

Petra Stienen ?@petra_stienen

Mubarak with a beard? Excellent read of new dynamics between #USA and #Egypt http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/12/04/mubarak_with_a_beard?page=full



Mubarak with a Beard?
The United States needs to tell Egypt's new president that there's no going back to the old, bad ways.
BY MICHAEL WAHID HANNA | DECEMBER 4, 2012


...

In a move that bears the hallmark of U.S. policy in the Mubarak era, the United States has largely reduced its relationship with Egypt to the maintenance of the peace treaty with Israel and withheld serious judgment of the Muslim Brotherhood-led government, even as it actively undermines the country's already troubled democratic transition.

...

The crisis deepened when the president directed the assembly to ram through a governing document in a chaotic, all-night session that made a mockery of deliberative constitutional process and design. If approved in a hastily called referendum, that slipshod document will bound Egypt's political future and institutionalize its crisis. With a significant portion of the country's judges declaring a strike in response to Morsy's declaration and dueling protesters mobilizing on opposing sides, Egypt's flawed transition now risks tipping into outright civil strife and prolonged instability.

...

Morsy's actions presented the United States with a difficult choice: Should it challenge an elected Egyptian president just as the two countries have begun to reconstruct bilateral ties? This choice was complicated further by the close cooperation and pragmatism displayed by Morsy and his government in securing a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel in the Gaza Strip last month. These efforts won the Egyptian president newfound confidence in Washington, and administration officials were quick to shower him with praise.

...

Morsy's moves were particularly damaging to the United States since he made his initial announcement the day after meeting with Clinton to finalize details of the Gaza ceasefire. The timing raised the unfounded specter among already suspicious Egyptians that the Brotherhood had cleared their undemocratic power play with the now-grateful Americans.

....

Read more: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/12/04/mubarak_with_a_beard?page=full

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
34. True soldiary in #Egypt this video shows it all
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 01:43 AM
Dec 2012

John Nashed ?@jnashed

True soldiary in #Egypt this video shows it all

&sns=em …

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
36. More CSF heading to Pres Palace now
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:24 AM
Dec 2012

Menna منّة ?@TheMiinz

More CSF heading to Pres Palace now, next to Koleya Harbeya stadium in Heliopolis. #Egypt #Morsy

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
42. I remember when you started it all...with tweets :)
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 04:13 AM
Dec 2012

Wait...do you hear that, Catherina? I think they're playing your song...






Catherina

(35,568 posts)
44. Yes! Yes, that's exactly it!
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 04:26 AM
Dec 2012

And it was Sabrina 1 who sucked me into that whole twitter thing. Not sure if I should be grateful or resentful lol!

It's good to see the same old faces, like yours, supporting this

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
47. Sabrina! I should have known!
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 05:01 AM
Dec 2012

She'll subvert you, convert you and extrovert you!!!

She's out in my neck of the woods, so I may run into her IRL sometime. So far, I've met 6 other DUers in Occupy L.A. actions, and in every case I was more impressed by them IRL than I was from just knowing them here in cyberspace.

We had some disagreements among the original crew on your Egypt Revolution threads, but all of us still shared the same hopes and goals for the Egyptian people. And none of us wants to see the Revolution subverted.

Hugs, back, Catherina . Great to see you here again!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
49. Hangin' in there, Joe
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 05:23 AM
Dec 2012

Hope you're doing alright, too. Like Catherina, looks like we're all playing the same song...






Catherina

(35,568 posts)
50. These things take time. There's a lot of capital and geopolitical issues at stake
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 05:32 AM
Dec 2012

but the delightful thing is they're still marching on.

When you do see Sabrina, if you do, give her the in-real-life hug that I can't. And a big one for you too

I'm going to bed now. 3:30am.

It seems Morsi is back at the palace right now but things seem calm. Think it's safe to go to bed? Goodnight my friend. It's great to be working with you again.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
51. Goodnight, my friend
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 06:16 AM
Dec 2012

Though I don't even remember how many nights I forewent sleep to stay up and follow Your Egypt Revolution threads! Not to mention the crazy hours for some 7 months working with joshcryer and others on the Libyan Revolution threads.

But I think you're probably safe going to bed tonight. If anything shakes out, we'll be sure to alert you with...



Catherina

(35,568 posts)
40. AJA: "opposition to Morsi is funded by Iran"
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:36 AM
Dec 2012

Mohammad ?@Falasteeni

AJA host @kasimf just said opposition to Morsi is funded by Iran. Then he mocked his guest who pointed out Qatar funds MB. #Egypt




Lol!

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
45. Whoever this kasimf moron is, he's talking out of his ass.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 04:26 AM
Dec 2012

If anything at all, Iran and the M.B. might actually be friends; they've been helping arm Hamas in Gaza for starters, which, btw, is an offshoot of said organization.....certainly, they're not enemies by any stretch of the imagination.

And, also, Qatar is funding the MB? Very interesting. Thanks for keeping us updated, Catherina.

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