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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSomething big just happened in Egypt right now. Something very big. (Pt 2)
100s of Thousands of Tahrir Protesters are back (the last estimate I saw in a news article was 200,000+), President Morsi has fled the Palace, the Central Security Forces abandoned their posts and many removed their uniforms and joined the people to protest.
It's 3am there now but a vigilant contingent has erected tents in Tahrir and in front of the palace again.
Livestream:
ONtv Live from #Cairo. Thousands in Tahrir Sq. http://www.livestream.com/ontveglive #Anonymous #OSF #OO #OWS #OpGlobalSpring engaged!
PS, Dear God, please don't let this turn into another one of those 2 week running, 1001 part threads. Please.
Link to Part 1: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021926897
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)I only have 8 gig of memory and a terrabyte of hard disk.
This one loads, but is somewhat mystifying.
No idea what it's about, there isn't any audio and all the text crawling by is in Arabic.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)They're not done with their revolution.
madinmaryland
(64,913 posts)ETA: Thanks for the link. Makes a bit more sense now.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)riverwalker
(8,694 posts)beautiful
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)TheBigPharaohThe Big Pharaoh8h
TV picture showing both Tahrir & Presidential Palace from a high place. Stunning. Unbelievable. شوفوا دي. pic.twitter.com/YERvJQeS
:large
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)Thx @SultanAlQassemi for this exclusive footage of #Morsy motorcade leaving amidst protesters shouting IRHAL! Leave!
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)Heba Farouk Mahfouz. ?@HebaFarooq
it's 3 am & there is yet another march heading to the presidential palace &another one heading to #Tahrir I love my crazy Cairo people ?
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Marching on the presidential palace مسيرة العباسية تصل كوبري القبة في طريقها إلى الإتحادية by Hossam el-Hamalawy حسام الحملاوي / © Some rights reserved.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Referendum on the constution in less than two weeks.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Protesting Morsi: Egypts Constitutional Court Closes
By Ria Novosti
Global Research, December 04, 2012
Egypts Supreme Constitutional Court has halted its work indefinitely after protesters prevented justices from getting to their offices on Sunday morning.
The court building is being blockaded by protesters who support President Mohamed Morsi and his November 22 Constitutional Declaration.
The justices were not able to get into the court building and do their job because of the massed people blocking the way and shouting threats (against them), the court said in a statement announced on Egyptian television.
The halt indefinitely postpones a court decision on whether to dissolve both the commission that drafted the new Constitution and the Shura Council, the upper house of parliament.
CONTINUED...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/protesting-morsi-egypts-constitutional-court-closes/5313873
May the Egyptian people transition safely to a better way of governance.
Thanks for the heads-up, Catherina! Very, very great to read you!
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Though I read you a lot here, with admiration. I was just trying not to get sucked in again lol.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)The march is heading to Tahrir right now.
lfkraus ?@lfkraus
MT @Egyptocracy: 2.40am EET #PalaceMarch walking back through town. It's a big march. #Egypt #Tahrir screenshot f OnTV: pic.twitter.com/OcnlzBnR
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)What happened to democracy? Being a minority in a democracy means you get to live, right?
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)If you break it and make the masses mad, there are no guarantees.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)to suck me back in and I see Luminous Animal in on the act too
Thank you. I love doing it and appreciate the support
leftstreet
(36,064 posts)Nor are the issues the same
But it's certainly newsworthy
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Jano Charbel ?@JanoCharbel
#Egypt: 11 Newspapers refuse to print in protest against tyranny http://www.france24.com/en/20121204-egypt-press-refuses-print-protest-tyranny
#Journalism #Press #PressFreedom #Strike #FuckMorsi!
I lost the tweet about the TV channels but it was there
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)I can tell you that protesting with the NYPD walking around with clubs was scary enough. Those people are BRAVE!
alfredo
(60,060 posts)Billy clubs help you focus on what is important.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)druidity33
(6,428 posts)alfredo
(60,060 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)links? links? That's like saying the Democratic Party has *links* to Obama.
"Morsy was not at the palace when the protesters descended, his office said. He was out meeting with government officials, they said."
LMAO!
"They feel the constitution does not sufficiently protect freedom of the press and, on Tuesday, a dozen partisan and privately-owned papers were not on the newsstands in protest."
Really? Is that all CNN?
Thanks for posting this Alfredo. Great pics
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Two more versions of his departure from the palace:
The official said Morsi left on the advice of security officials at the palace and to head off "possible dangers" and to calm protesters. Morsi's spokesman, however, said the president left the palace at the end of his work schedule through the door he routinely uses.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57557045/egypt-protesters-swell-to-over-100000/
Catherina
(35,568 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I was tempted to post in the first thread to ask when we'd see Part 2.
The Jan. 25 Revolution continues!
alfredo
(60,060 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)shaimaa khalil ?@Shaimaakhalil
Crowds outside presidential palace in #Cairo ...I haven't seen anything like this before..Not even in #Jan25 #Egypt
حــريــتــى حــريــتــى ?@NeveenCavalli
25mil Egyptians fill streets and sq's of #Egypt cities to protest #Morsi decree.This crowd is outside president palace
Mostafa Sheshtawy ?@msheshtawy
Walking side by side with people who believe in the cause. Chanting at the top of your lungs, the ground shakes. This is #jan25
Bassem Sabry باسم ?@Bassem_Sabry
The spirit in #Tahrir is very charged, very determined. This is the spirit of #Jan25.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Nehaya Nashed ?@nehayanashed
A message to #Morsi, listen & don't play deaf! أنا الشعب !!!
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Petra Stienen ?@petra_stienen
Mubarak with a beard? Excellent read of new dynamics between #USA and #Egypt http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/12/04/mubarak_with_a_beard?page=full
The United States needs to tell Egypt's new president that there's no going back to the old, bad ways.
BY MICHAEL WAHID HANNA | DECEMBER 4, 2012
...
In a move that bears the hallmark of U.S. policy in the Mubarak era, the United States has largely reduced its relationship with Egypt to the maintenance of the peace treaty with Israel and withheld serious judgment of the Muslim Brotherhood-led government, even as it actively undermines the country's already troubled democratic transition.
...
The crisis deepened when the president directed the assembly to ram through a governing document in a chaotic, all-night session that made a mockery of deliberative constitutional process and design. If approved in a hastily called referendum, that slipshod document will bound Egypt's political future and institutionalize its crisis. With a significant portion of the country's judges declaring a strike in response to Morsy's declaration and dueling protesters mobilizing on opposing sides, Egypt's flawed transition now risks tipping into outright civil strife and prolonged instability.
...
Morsy's actions presented the United States with a difficult choice: Should it challenge an elected Egyptian president just as the two countries have begun to reconstruct bilateral ties? This choice was complicated further by the close cooperation and pragmatism displayed by Morsy and his government in securing a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel in the Gaza Strip last month. These efforts won the Egyptian president newfound confidence in Washington, and administration officials were quick to shower him with praise.
...
Morsy's moves were particularly damaging to the United States since he made his initial announcement the day after meeting with Clinton to finalize details of the Gaza ceasefire. The timing raised the unfounded specter among already suspicious Egyptians that the Brotherhood had cleared their undemocratic power play with the now-grateful Americans.
....
Read more: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/12/04/mubarak_with_a_beard?page=full
Catherina
(35,568 posts)John Nashed ?@jnashed
True soldiary in #Egypt this video shows it all
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Menna منّة ?@TheMiinz
More CSF heading to Pres Palace now, next to Koleya Harbeya stadium in Heliopolis. #Egypt #Morsy
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Wait...do you hear that, Catherina? I think they're playing your song...
Catherina
(35,568 posts)And it was Sabrina 1 who sucked me into that whole twitter thing. Not sure if I should be grateful or resentful lol!
It's good to see the same old faces, like yours, supporting this
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)She'll subvert you, convert you and extrovert you!!!
She's out in my neck of the woods, so I may run into her IRL sometime. So far, I've met 6 other DUers in Occupy L.A. actions, and in every case I was more impressed by them IRL than I was from just knowing them here in cyberspace.
We had some disagreements among the original crew on your Egypt Revolution threads, but all of us still shared the same hopes and goals for the Egyptian people. And none of us wants to see the Revolution subverted.
Hugs, back, Catherina . Great to see you here again!
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Hope you're doing alright, too. Like Catherina, looks like we're all playing the same song...
Catherina
(35,568 posts)but the delightful thing is they're still marching on.
When you do see Sabrina, if you do, give her the in-real-life hug that I can't. And a big one for you too
I'm going to bed now. 3:30am.
It seems Morsi is back at the palace right now but things seem calm. Think it's safe to go to bed? Goodnight my friend. It's great to be working with you again.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Though I don't even remember how many nights I forewent sleep to stay up and follow Your Egypt Revolution threads! Not to mention the crazy hours for some 7 months working with joshcryer and others on the Libyan Revolution threads.
But I think you're probably safe going to bed tonight. If anything shakes out, we'll be sure to alert you with...
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Mohammad ?@Falasteeni
AJA host @kasimf just said opposition to Morsi is funded by Iran. Then he mocked his guest who pointed out Qatar funds MB. #Egypt
Lol!
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)If anything at all, Iran and the M.B. might actually be friends; they've been helping arm Hamas in Gaza for starters, which, btw, is an offshoot of said organization.....certainly, they're not enemies by any stretch of the imagination.
And, also, Qatar is funding the MB? Very interesting. Thanks for keeping us updated, Catherina.