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Sympthsical

(10,411 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 04:38 PM Aug 2024

These attacks on the NABJ are starting to feel subtly racist

That kind patronizing racism that percolates on the Left. As if people expected these Black women to do the dirty work that white liberals or "respectable" journalists wouldn't do. And once they didn't, well, why didn't these Black women meet the expectations we set for them? Which is to be attack dogs. Notice some of the criticism of these journalists. It was very "white" of them to do what they did (or didn't do, based on the expectation).

It's leaving a very sour taste in my mouth, where that patronizing/condescending racism the Left has a blind spot about is being illustrated in real time.

That was not a good day for Trump. No headline I've read was a good one - not even on the Right.

The journalists asked the questions, and he exposed himself as even more unhinged than usual - which is a high bar for him to clear. The only questions I've seen about VP Harris' racial background is clarification for people who didn't know. Now they know. And that's awesome. Biracial representation.

All these articles feel like a lot of people asking, "Why didn't these Black women perform for us?"

Miss me with that shit.

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hlthe2b

(107,779 posts)
1. Wow. That's 180 degrees from what I'm hearing, seeing, reading. Multiple times that it was
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 04:48 PM
Aug 2024

a "MASTER CLASS" in how to interview Trump (or any other such person). I've seen this exact phrasing multiple times.

Further, several who initially criticized NABJ for hosting him have likewise done a Mea culpa (most recently Keith Olbermann on his podcast). Thus, giving all their due (Harris Faulkner, not so much) but making it clear that their pre-judgment was wrong.

I'm just not hearing what you are AT ALL. And I agree that whether or not anyone agrees with hosting him, they certainly did make their mark by holding his feet to the fire--better than most anyone else has to date. Whether or not there was strategy in his mind--he sure as hell didn't come off as anything but a sadistic, racist, misogynist.

Sympthsical

(10,411 posts)
2. Several articles posted to DU alone have done it
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 04:56 PM
Aug 2024

And I'm reading the criticisms in other places.

You can start with the Joy Reid thread and work from there.

hlthe2b

(107,779 posts)
3. Probably from those who didn't even watch. I did and whoever "they" are who say otherwise
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 04:58 PM
Aug 2024

are just plain wrong or...

Sympthsical

(10,411 posts)
4. I'm not saying everyone has done it
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 05:01 PM
Aug 2024

But I'm reading the patronizing of Black women enough in this story that I wanted to highlight and point out it's not cool in an OP.

Sympthsical

(10,411 posts)
7. Here's one recently posted
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 05:10 PM
Aug 2024

It's actually the article that had me say, "Ok, enough." Some Joy Reid commentary people agree with. Etc. It's around.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/nabj-black-journalists-trump-harris/

It's been posted here.

I'm about to leave for the evening, but those with eyes may find.

hlthe2b

(107,779 posts)
8. Ellie Mystal never holds back...but he did give Rachel Scott her due...
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 05:30 PM
Aug 2024

I think a lot of independents may see clips of his dreadful "performances" and be appalled--at least they will hear about his disgustingly racist and abusive attempts to deny Harris her birth identity and to diminish her in every way possible. Women of all races/ethnicities GET THAT and the rest will see his bullying tactics. Trump's "Truth Social" is losing posters in droves over the past three months. Trump fatigue is REAL. So, anyone who thinks he benefitted by this is just plain nuts. Mystal wants to see it through the lens of a sincere journalistic effort. Well, it may have not met that standard, but arguably it probably accomplished even more... Something about claiming Harris--the first black female VP and soon Presidential nominee to be a "poseur" in terms of her race--now that is 'gonna leave a mark.

Sympthsical

(10,411 posts)
9. We agree on that
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 05:33 PM
Aug 2024

It was not in any way a good day for Trump. Always wondered where the line is with his shit, and it appears we may have uncovered one.

W_HAMILTON

(8,695 posts)
6. Same. It's so removed from the reality I exist in that I couldn't really even comprehend what OP was talking about.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 05:06 PM
Aug 2024

OP, wherever it is you frequent where you see these sorts of racist attacks from the left, go there and post your OP to them.

BannonsLiver

(18,648 posts)
11. It's a courtesy title
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 05:43 PM
Aug 2024

I met Bill Clinton several years ago and o called him Mr President. Everyone around me was calling him that as well. We can argue if after all trump has done whether he deserves that courtesy (I’m in agreement with you on that, I’m sure) but it’s common protocol for living ex presidents to be addressed that way.

Susan Calvin

(2,196 posts)
12. Absolutely he does not deserve to be called that.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 05:56 PM
Aug 2024

There are a lot of other things he deserves to be called, for sure. But I have no doubt those journalists were following their organizations' guidelines.

angrychair

(10,139 posts)
13. My criticism has nothing to do with them
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 06:40 PM
Aug 2024

As people and certainly nothing to do with the color of their skin. It's all the journalists that interview him. Ask him a question. If he doesn't answer you ask again and you keep asking until he answers or gets up and leaves.
I'm tired of that racist weirdo getting to monologue for 10 mins without interruption every time he is asked a question.
Make him answer the damn question or make him leave.

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