Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
42 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Kamala For President - New Ad from The Lincoln Project (Original Post) writes3000 Jul 2024 OP
nice! et tu Jul 2024 #1
What happens when Trump, Trumpism and MAGA exit the scene... Dennis Donovan Jul 2024 #2
They are anti trump republicans, not dems... getagrip_already Jul 2024 #4
Are we back to stuff like the Arkansas Project? Watergate? That was ugly. Dennis Donovan Jul 2024 #5
I don't think they have anything to go back to. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #6
Possibly, but they still stand apart from us getagrip_already Jul 2024 #7
Yes we don't know how this will play out. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #8
If and when they get hammered newdayneeded Jul 2024 #29
Interesting idea. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #34
I'm thinking you're right. newdayneeded Jul 2024 #35
We already see the GOP moderates working with the Dems. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #37
well, they're smart enough to know u dont start at the top. mopinko Jul 2024 #10
They'll find a newer shiny object to distract us. rubbersole Jul 2024 #22
I agree. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #23
They are individuals. Rick Wilson has said he knows now about how dems are better for the economy and mucifer Jul 2024 #9
Just a thought. Codifer Jul 2024 #17
No BonnieJW Jul 2024 #18
However; Codifer Jul 2024 #30
I've thought about this, and come to the following: Volaris Jul 2024 #11
I'm going to concentrate on winning first, dealing with Republicans in 2025. We can follow the ancianita Jul 2024 #19
Kind of like when Russia was our ally Tree Lady Jul 2024 #39
Just saw this, awesome ad! getagrip_already Jul 2024 #3
Excellent! Talitha Jul 2024 #12
This is one incredibly great ad! It left me cheering and with goosebumps! Kamala for President-YES. nt CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2024 #13
Excellent! SunSeeker Jul 2024 #14
Love to see that ad on my TV in Indiana. Emile Jul 2024 #15
Say what you will about the Lincoln Project but . . . peggysue2 Jul 2024 #16
Superb compare and contrast BattleRow Jul 2024 #21
I only see them on DU DENVERPOPS Jul 2024 #24
they target their TV ads mokeyz Jul 2024 #32
That was sort of a "non-answer" answer......... DENVERPOPS Jul 2024 #42
Great ad! niyad Jul 2024 #20
Great ad karin_sj Jul 2024 #25
Fabulous! Native Jul 2024 #26
good ad barbtries Jul 2024 #27
writes3000........... Upthevibe Jul 2024 #28
Lincoln project is do good Figarosmom Jul 2024 #31
WOW. That hits the nail on the head! liberalla Jul 2024 #33
TY & TLP! Cha Jul 2024 #36
K & R !!! Rubyshoo Jul 2024 #38
K&R William769 Jul 2024 #40
An excellent ad. Wow!! Stinky The Clown Jul 2024 #41

Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
2. What happens when Trump, Trumpism and MAGA exit the scene...
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 09:44 AM
Jul 2024

What will our rivalry with members of the Lincoln Project look like? I often ponder that.

getagrip_already

(17,766 posts)
4. They are anti trump republicans, not dems...
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 09:47 AM
Jul 2024

Just like the bulwark. They make no bones about it.

For now, a shaky truce while we fight a common foe. They do at least believe in democracy, and individual rights.

Beyond that, its back to the w wars.

Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
5. Are we back to stuff like the Arkansas Project? Watergate? That was ugly.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 09:51 AM
Jul 2024

Regardless, I really appreciate their shaky truce against a dangerous foe.

Irish_Dem

(72,278 posts)
6. I don't think they have anything to go back to.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 10:10 AM
Jul 2024

Their party is gone. Taken over by Putin and radicals.

getagrip_already

(17,766 posts)
7. Possibly, but they still stand apart from us
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 10:21 AM
Jul 2024

Maybe they will start a third party eventually. They may try to carve a centrist party out of the remnants of the old party, indies, and blue dogs.

But they are not comfortable with the progressives and far left. And many on the bulwark are actually gay.

There is a vacuum there, so it is a risk.

Irish_Dem

(72,278 posts)
8. Yes we don't know how this will play out.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 10:27 AM
Jul 2024

A major US political party has been taken over by Putin/Nazis/white christians.

Is the GOP going to end and something new takes its place?
Or will a third party form?

Yes the problem with the disgruntled GOP joining our party is that it could pull
us to the right. Or I suppose we could pull them left.

 

newdayneeded

(2,493 posts)
29. If and when they get hammered
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 12:05 PM
Jul 2024

this election, the talk will start from the gop inside to persuade Maga to start their own party. if they can convince them, they'll turn around and marginalize them over the next years. If they don't, they know they won't win too many elections for the next 2 or 3 cycles, or until trump strokes out.

Irish_Dem

(72,278 posts)
34. Interesting idea.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 02:37 PM
Jul 2024

Last edited Mon Jul 29, 2024, 03:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Non Trump GOPers will try to get the MAGAs to start their own party.
I have a hard time believing the MAGA's will comply with this request.
And may make the GOPers start their own new party.

The big test is going to be once Trump is gone.
Can MAGA survive without him.
Will the billionaires in charge of MAGA find another useful idiot?

 

newdayneeded

(2,493 posts)
35. I'm thinking you're right.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 03:12 PM
Jul 2024

So the moderates will have steal the conservative label, then start referring at all interviews that the original gop is the trump party. Mr. ego will probably be for it actually, helping this cause with his own stupidity. I have a feeling the DNC would fight a proxy war against Maga through this new party. offering behind the scenes cash to help assure Maga is dissolved.

Irish_Dem

(72,278 posts)
37. We already see the GOP moderates working with the Dems.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 03:19 PM
Jul 2024

Bulwark, Lincoln Project, Steve Schimidt.
Probably a lot of behind the scenes stuff too.

All of the fed up GOP Members of Congress who have resigned.
I bet they know plenty and have given good intel to Dems.

mopinko

(72,779 posts)
10. well, they're smart enough to know u dont start at the top.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 10:33 AM
Jul 2024

it wd b good to have a center rt party, and it wd b good to have a green party. but these idiots who only put up someone for the top of the ticket, i just cant w them.
if the greens had spent all this time growing a party from the ground up, they’d b major players by now.

rubbersole

(10,101 posts)
22. They'll find a newer shiny object to distract us.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 11:46 AM
Jul 2024

The oligarchs aren't going quietly into the night. Especially after seeing how easy it was using the most character flawed buffoon to get the lemmings to follow him. This is a generational struggle for survival. We're off to a great first round.

Irish_Dem

(72,278 posts)
23. I agree.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 11:55 AM
Jul 2024

The fight between good and evil is ongoing.

Yes, the oligarchs saw how easy it is to obtain total
Power.

mucifer

(25,242 posts)
9. They are individuals. Rick Wilson has said he knows now about how dems are better for the economy and
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 10:32 AM
Jul 2024

has stated he regrets a lot of the adds he did in the past. It was on Al Franken's podcast when Al interviewed Rick Wilson.

Codifer

(1,013 posts)
17. Just a thought.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 11:17 AM
Jul 2024

I kinda wish that Al Franken were on Kamala's VP short list.

We owe him one.

Codifer

(1,013 posts)
30. However;
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 12:10 PM
Jul 2024

Al Franken is not Merrick Garland and the situations are/were very different.

Plus he makes us laugh.

Volaris

(10,944 posts)
11. I've thought about this, and come to the following:
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 10:34 AM
Jul 2024

If they want to argue a position of smaller govt and the utility of free markets, I'm fine with that AS LONG AS THE STARTING PLACE IS OBJECTIVE FACTS (I.E., climate change is real and humans are the cause). If they end up there, then I'd agree that a center right party can be useful to democratic dialog and governance.
Otherwise no, this country does not need a republican party, as there are and will be enough moderates in our own tent to act as a counter balance.
But that's ALL on them.

ancianita

(41,041 posts)
19. I'm going to concentrate on winning first, dealing with Republicans in 2025. We can follow the
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 11:28 AM
Jul 2024

next Democratic president's and congress' lead on dealing, imo.

Pro-corporate media will be at perception/propaganda war with our new administration, no matter what it does.

Tree Lady

(12,537 posts)
39. Kind of like when Russia was our ally
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 04:40 PM
Jul 2024

in WW2 and now our enemy. Rick is very good at what he does and glad he is helping us. I don't look forward to the day he is against us again.

CaliforniaPeggy

(154,493 posts)
13. This is one incredibly great ad! It left me cheering and with goosebumps! Kamala for President-YES. nt
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 11:05 AM
Jul 2024

peggysue2

(12,022 posts)
16. Say what you will about the Lincoln Project but . . .
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 11:15 AM
Jul 2024

When it comes to ad making, they hit it out of the park. No holds barred, right for the throat.

And they absolutely know how to get into Trump's head.

Good one on them!

DENVERPOPS

(12,997 posts)
24. I only see them on DU
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 11:58 AM
Jul 2024

Do they ever run them anywhere in the main stream media across America???????

mokeyz

(77 posts)
32. they target their TV ads
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 12:21 PM
Jul 2024

To where they are needed and include Palm Beach County just to needle Trump. I have no doubt they know exactly where to place their ads.

DENVERPOPS

(12,997 posts)
42. That was sort of a "non-answer" answer.........
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 11:50 AM
Jul 2024

Do they ever run them anywhere in the main stream media across America???????

Maybe I should make my question clearer........

Does anyone here at DU know anything specific about where and when these ads are run on Network or Cable news for instance....

And, in my way of thinking, spending money running them in Palm Beach County, "just to annoy Trump," is money thrown away.

Upthevibe

(9,640 posts)
28. writes3000...........
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 12:04 PM
Jul 2024

That's an awesome ad! And....I think the narrator is Peter Coyote (who often narrates the Ken Burns documentaries)....

Thank you for posting

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Kamala For President - Ne...