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Biden-Harris Campaign Statement on JD Vance Refusing to Debate Vice President Harris (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 OP
President Biden could... SnoopDog Jul 2024 #1
EXACTLY B.See Jul 2024 #18
Vance seems to be BlueKota Jul 2024 #2
He's scarpered. markodochartaigh Jul 2024 #5
🤣 BlueKota Jul 2024 #9
She would. Vance is smart, but Harris is also smart and an experienced prosecutor surfered Jul 2024 #7
She would eat his lunch, spit it out and eat it again. littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #12
You decide... littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #25
Thank you. When I first saw him that image came Polly Hennessey Jul 2024 #26
That's so funny!! I've found a kindred spirit in you Polly. littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #28
Stay puffy BoRaGard Jul 2024 #38
He gets giddy about himself LiberalFighter Jul 2024 #47
Watch how he waves... littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #48
CBS v Fox onandup Jul 2024 #3
Another thing for Dems to make hay with..."Vance has ZERO useful experience AND he is a coward." Want him next in line? dutch777 Jul 2024 #4
Rich people will donate more. summer_in_TX Jul 2024 #6
Chicken Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #8
Vance is an empty suit dlk Jul 2024 #10
Vance won't debate Kamala? Guess he's not much of a man.... DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #11
In 1992, GHW Bush did a "whistle stop tour" of the midwest Wednesdays Jul 2024 #16
I didn't remember that... unless it was subconscious! DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #17
Brilliant! But we were told here that Cha Jul 2024 #13
Curious about the Trump campaign thinking. hay rick Jul 2024 #14
He can't. Trump couldn't debate her either tho that's not his role. live love laugh Jul 2024 #15
Vance Has A Total Of 18 Months Government Experience DallasNE Jul 2024 #19
Trumps choice for VP GreenReaper Jul 2024 #20
he doesn't want to get beat up by a girl orleans Jul 2024 #21
And especially a girl of color. He's a blatantly obvious hypocrite. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #29
smart move, Vance wouldn't stand a chance against Harris in a debate AlexSFCA Jul 2024 #22
They Should Have Responded With Just One Word ChoppinBroccoli Jul 2024 #23
'They're scared': Trump team said to have signaled it's afraid of having J.D. Vance debate LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #24
If this is true, LilElf70 Jul 2024 #27
Vance was not a good choice SamuelTheThird Jul 2024 #30
I think Vance is smart, and a good writer- but Harris is brilliant and AkFemDem Jul 2024 #31
And Vance is on the wrong side of every issue. markodochartaigh Jul 2024 #32
After all the shit going on with the DNC Vance Klarkashton Jul 2024 #33
JD Vance is already employing an excuse of "can't commit with the uncertainty of the Democratic ticket". LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #34
JD Vance, famous misogynist, is afraid of a girl. travelingthrulife Jul 2024 #35
Vance's views on women are worse than just anti-abortion. patphil Jul 2024 #36
His views are HPM Jul 2024 #37
Clever use of "prosecute" in the announcement. Abigail_Adams Jul 2024 #39
Typical chicken shit Rethug Dem4life1234 Jul 2024 #40
Trump's campaign manager Tickle Jul 2024 #41
He's willfully ignorant, therefore, stupid. Magoo48 Jul 2024 #42
I don't think there's any doubt ... Straw Man Jul 2024 #43
Chicken! mwb970 Jul 2024 #44
AIN'T NO LEAK ABOUT IT Geechie Jul 2024 #45
Be cautious manicdem Jul 2024 #46

SnoopDog

(2,426 posts)
1. President Biden could...
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 07:40 PM
Jul 2024

If Vance is refusing to debate VP Harris, President Biden could legitimately cancel his debate with the Orange Traitor Fascist.

B.See

(3,321 posts)
18. EXACTLY
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:54 PM
Jul 2024

Not that a convicted felon, rapist, and insurectionists ever BELONGED on a stage standing beside the President of the United States in the FIRST place,

imo.

But hey..

littlemissmartypants

(25,003 posts)
12. She would eat his lunch, spit it out and eat it again.
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:05 PM
Jul 2024

Last edited Wed Jul 17, 2024, 10:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Watch his speech. He's full of words but those words are void of content.

He rambles, frequently segways to nowhere and takes forever to get to the point. Lots of words but not much substance.

He reminds me of the Pillsbury dough boy for reasons I can't explain.

When I look at him with my head tilted he reminds me of the animated Kool aid cartoon pitcher. Oh, yeah.

littlemissmartypants

(25,003 posts)
48. Watch how he waves...
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 08:00 PM
Jul 2024

Looks a lot like a nazi salute. Even a BBC correspondent noticed and suggested that he may want to change how he waves or something to that effect. It was really strange to hear and scary to see.

❤️

dutch777

(3,393 posts)
4. Another thing for Dems to make hay with..."Vance has ZERO useful experience AND he is a coward." Want him next in line?
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 08:13 PM
Jul 2024

Only reasons I can think of for Trump picking him is: 1) Will follow like a mindless puppy; 2) wealthy white guy; 3) Zero threat to Trump's ego. Not that I would like her policies any more than Trump's or Vance's, but Nikki Haley would have been the better choice for the country. Not that even entered into Trump's calculation, I am sure. But she has executive government experience and has some foreign policy chops. Also might have helped Trump with women and people of color which makes him even more stupid for not picking her.

summer_in_TX

(3,131 posts)
6. Rich people will donate more.
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 08:50 PM
Jul 2024

Thiel. Musk. That's clearly enough "qualifications" for TFG.

But after Nov. 5, should he be elected Trump should watch himself around open windows and employ a taster. With an asset like Vance, Putin will no longer need him and his volatility makes him a liability.

dlk

(12,258 posts)
10. Vance is an empty suit
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:00 PM
Jul 2024

He doesn’t have what it takes to debate in support of his ideals. He especially doesn’t have what it takes to stand up to a seasoned litigator like Harris.

He’s the classic weakling who advocates bullying women.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
11. Vance won't debate Kamala? Guess he's not much of a man....
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:03 PM
Jul 2024

How will they explain this to the MAGAts ???

How their VP nominee is a great big CHICKEN??

(I guess we start following him around and tossing rubber chickens at his motorcade!
Maybe I should look for chicken costume rentals!)

Wednesdays

(20,229 posts)
16. In 1992, GHW Bush did a "whistle stop tour" of the midwest
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:47 PM
Jul 2024

And at every stop there was somebody dressed in a chicken costume to mock him. See, Bush dragged his feet about debating Clinton and Perot, and Democrats were pounding him about being "chicken."

Good times!

Cha

(304,660 posts)
13. Brilliant! But we were told here that
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:11 PM
Jul 2024

Biden is open to dropping and he thinks his "VP Harris can win" And, that he didn't think so Before!

So What's UP?

hay rick

(8,177 posts)
14. Curious about the Trump campaign thinking.
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:22 PM
Jul 2024

I would think that a mediocre debate performance (which can always be spun as a win) is a much better outcome for them than refusing to debate and trying to explain why the refusal is not hiding or cowardice. I'm sure Harris can hold her own but I don't see her as an intimidating force on the debate stage. My guess is they are scared to death of having Vance talk about abortion.

DallasNE

(7,546 posts)
19. Vance Has A Total Of 18 Months Government Experience
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 10:02 PM
Jul 2024

He has little depth in the functioning of government. Indeed, gravitas, or the lack thereof, is a major issue with Trump/Vance. Little wonder they are ducking a debate on substance.

LetMyPeopleVote

(153,868 posts)
24. 'They're scared': Trump team said to have signaled it's afraid of having J.D. Vance debate
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 10:22 PM
Jul 2024

Vance and company are scared of a real lawyer like MVP Harris



https://www.rawstory.com/trump-scared-jd-vance-debate/

Vice President Kamala Harris has signaled her approval of three possible dates to debate former President Donald Trump's new running mate, Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH).

But the Trump campaign has not yet backed any of the debates, with senior adviser Brian Hughes putting out the statement, “We don’t know who the Democrat nominee for Vice President is going to be, so we can’t lock in a date before their convention. To do so would be unfair to Gavin Newsom, JB Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, or whoever Kamala Harris picks as her running mate.” This is a reference to the current controversy of some Democrats calling on President Joe Biden to exit the race for a second term, which would most likely but not definitely result in Harris leading the top of the ticket.

Commenters on social media, however, pounced on this as a sign that the Trump campaign is actually afraid of going toe to toe with Harris, who by many metrics won the last time she was in a vice presidential debate, against Mike Pence. Others urged Democrats to cut out the infighting, and take this remark as a sign the Trump campaign is benefiting from efforts to push Biden aside.

LilElf70

(383 posts)
27. If this is true,
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 10:32 PM
Jul 2024

then Vance is a weasel.

Even if it isn't true, the loser is still a weasel. Just like his buddy, Trump.

AkFemDem

(2,027 posts)
31. I think Vance is smart, and a good writer- but Harris is brilliant and
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 10:45 PM
Jul 2024

a GREAT debater. She would absolutely smoke him in a debate- I am not at all surprised he's chickening out. He does not want to be beaten publicly, especially by a woman.

markodochartaigh

(1,916 posts)
32. And Vance is on the wrong side of every issue.
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 10:58 PM
Jul 2024

And Vice President Harris is on the correct side of every issue.

LetMyPeopleVote

(153,868 posts)
34. JD Vance is already employing an excuse of "can't commit with the uncertainty of the Democratic ticket".
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:14 AM
Jul 2024


Kamala has already accepted 3 possible dates for a VP debate - July 23, August 12, August 13.

JD Vance is already employing an excuse of “can’t commit with the uncertainty of the Democratic ticket”.

I suggest that JD “eyeliner” Vance start prepping now for an August debate. 2 weeks is going to go fast and the Democratic Ticket will be Biden/Harris.
Start cramming now because your 18 month experience in all things politics is minuscule compared to VP Harris.

You can try and disinfect your web page and Twitter but remember…..The internet is forever.


patphil

(6,888 posts)
36. Vance's views on women are worse than just anti-abortion.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 09:47 AM
Jul 2024

He talks about childless women, and men, and how these people shouldn't have the same voting rights as parents.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/morgansloss1/jd-vance-childless-left-voting-power-parents

This striping of rights of a fairly large cross section of American Society is meant to marginalize them, and justify treating them as less than full citizens. In his perverted view of society, it's not just women who are to blame for much of the nation's woes (whatever they are), but, by implication, homosexual men and any other males who are not contributing to the gene pool.
Essentially, he wants forced parenthood for all adults as a way of demonstrating their dedication to the future of the nation.

This comes from the party that decries government interference in the lives of it's citizens. I guess that concept is only important when it suits them. In actuality, the so called party of small government is ready, willing, and would like to be able to engage in total control over the lives of everyone.

Liars will lie, and dictators will dictate. And so the successor to Donald Trump's Magaworld is established and defined as a 39 year old monster, who will be ready to step in when Trump falters.

HPM

(14 posts)
37. His views are
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:12 AM
Jul 2024

deeply unpopular and out of synch with the vast majority of Americans. Republican politicians are only interested in throwing red meat to the cult. During Trump’s term he never once even hinted that a President is President of all the people, not just his voters. He doesn’t understand the concept. Vance was hired with the understanding that he will never stray from MAGA doctrine. Debating Harris there will be nowhere to hide. She can nail him on policy and on his previous statements comparing Trump to Hitler - clearly a place he doesn’t want to go and that the chickenshit press would never venture.

 

Abigail_Adams

(333 posts)
39. Clever use of "prosecute" in the announcement.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:40 AM
Jul 2024

It reinforces Harris's experience as a prosecutor.

Vance knows she will harp on reproductive rights, and rebutting her will highlight his horrible stance on that subject in front of the whole country, not just the RBC this week.

Tickle

(2,955 posts)
41. Trump's campaign manager
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:54 AM
Jul 2024

The Trump campaign suggested Wednesday its hands are tied because it doesn’t know who will be on the Democratic ticket.

“We don’t know who the Democratic nominee for vice president is going to be, so we can’t lock in a date before their convention,” said Brian Hughes, a Trump campaign senior adviser.

Citing a list of Democrats mentioned as possible candidates should there be a shakeup on the party’s ticket, Hughes said scheduling a vice-presidential debate right now would be unfair to California Gov. Gavin Newsom, Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker, Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer – “or whoever Kamala Harris picks as her running mate.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/trump-campaign-burns-biden-over-vp-debate-implying-he-may-not-head-the-ticket/ar-BB1qaOnQ?ocid=BingNewsVerp


Magoo48

(5,135 posts)
42. He's willfully ignorant, therefore, stupid.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 11:02 AM
Jul 2024

And like all conservatives, christian nationalists, authoritarians, and fascists; he’s scared to death of women. And, straight forward, strong, informed women are all seen as a threat.

Straw Man

(6,757 posts)
43. I don't think there's any doubt ...
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 11:10 AM
Jul 2024

... that Harris would mop the floor with him. Among other pertinent factors, consider the facts that (a) she is a former prosecutor, and (b) he has something to hide -- his stance on abortion. That's a very potent combination.

manicdem

(497 posts)
46. Be cautious
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 05:05 PM
Jul 2024

I really hope it remains a Biden/Harris campaign. However if Biden were to drop out and Harris becomes the nominee, then it would have proved Vance correct and blowback on us.

Best to withhold comment for the time being. I don't think a few weeks wait will change anything.

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