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(2,426 posts)If Vance is refusing to debate VP Harris, President Biden could legitimately cancel his debate with the Orange Traitor Fascist.
Not that a convicted felon, rapist, and insurectionists ever BELONGED on a stage standing beside the President of the United States in the FIRST place,
imo.
But hey..
BlueKota
(3,398 posts)A lily livered 🐔 chicken shit. Must be afraid Harris will kick his ass
markodochartaigh
(1,916 posts)BlueKota
(3,398 posts)surfered
(2,685 posts)littlemissmartypants
(25,003 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 17, 2024, 10:15 PM - Edit history (1)
Watch his speech. He's full of words but those words are void of content.
He rambles, frequently segways to nowhere and takes forever to get to the point. Lots of words but not much substance.
He reminds me of the Pillsbury dough boy for reasons I can't explain.
When I look at him with my head tilted he reminds me of the animated Kool aid cartoon pitcher. Oh, yeah.
littlemissmartypants
(25,003 posts)Polly Hennessey
(7,388 posts)and stayed. He looks all soft and marshmallowey.
littlemissmartypants
(25,003 posts)Thanks for the validation. ❤️
BoRaGard
(2,688 posts)LiberalFighter
(53,431 posts)littlemissmartypants
(25,003 posts)Looks a lot like a nazi salute. Even a BBC correspondent noticed and suggested that he may want to change how he waves or something to that effect. It was really strange to hear and scary to see.
❤️
onandup
(701 posts)Guess who wants Fox.
dutch777
(3,393 posts)Only reasons I can think of for Trump picking him is: 1) Will follow like a mindless puppy; 2) wealthy white guy; 3) Zero threat to Trump's ego. Not that I would like her policies any more than Trump's or Vance's, but Nikki Haley would have been the better choice for the country. Not that even entered into Trump's calculation, I am sure. But she has executive government experience and has some foreign policy chops. Also might have helped Trump with women and people of color which makes him even more stupid for not picking her.
summer_in_TX
(3,131 posts)Thiel. Musk. That's clearly enough "qualifications" for TFG.
But after Nov. 5, should he be elected Trump should watch himself around open windows and employ a taster. With an asset like Vance, Putin will no longer need him and his volatility makes him a liability.
Joinfortmill
(16,272 posts)dlk
(12,258 posts)He doesnt have what it takes to debate in support of his ideals. He especially doesnt have what it takes to stand up to a seasoned litigator like Harris.
Hes the classic weakling who advocates bullying women.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)How will they explain this to the MAGAts ???
How their VP nominee is a great big CHICKEN??
(I guess we start following him around and tossing rubber chickens at his motorcade!
Maybe I should look for chicken costume rentals!)
Wednesdays
(20,229 posts)And at every stop there was somebody dressed in a chicken costume to mock him. See, Bush dragged his feet about debating Clinton and Perot, and Democrats were pounding him about being "chicken."
Good times!
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)Thanks for the reminder!!!!
Cha
(304,660 posts)Biden is open to dropping and he thinks his "VP Harris can win" And, that he didn't think so Before!
So What's UP?
hay rick
(8,177 posts)I would think that a mediocre debate performance (which can always be spun as a win) is a much better outcome for them than refusing to debate and trying to explain why the refusal is not hiding or cowardice. I'm sure Harris can hold her own but I don't see her as an intimidating force on the debate stage. My guess is they are scared to death of having Vance talk about abortion.
live love laugh
(14,142 posts)DallasNE
(7,546 posts)He has little depth in the functioning of government. Indeed, gravitas, or the lack thereof, is a major issue with Trump/Vance. Little wonder they are ducking a debate on substance.
GreenReaper
(11 posts)Well I guess thats why Trump grabbed him for vice president.
orleans
(34,832 posts)littlemissmartypants
(25,003 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,257 posts)ChoppinBroccoli
(3,896 posts)Scared.
LetMyPeopleVote
(153,868 posts)Vance and company are scared of a real lawyer like MVP Harris
Link to tweet
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-scared-jd-vance-debate/
But the Trump campaign has not yet backed any of the debates, with senior adviser Brian Hughes putting out the statement, We dont know who the Democrat nominee for Vice President is going to be, so we cant lock in a date before their convention. To do so would be unfair to Gavin Newsom, JB Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, or whoever Kamala Harris picks as her running mate. This is a reference to the current controversy of some Democrats calling on President Joe Biden to exit the race for a second term, which would most likely but not definitely result in Harris leading the top of the ticket.
Commenters on social media, however, pounced on this as a sign that the Trump campaign is actually afraid of going toe to toe with Harris, who by many metrics won the last time she was in a vice presidential debate, against Mike Pence. Others urged Democrats to cut out the infighting, and take this remark as a sign the Trump campaign is benefiting from efforts to push Biden aside.
LilElf70
(383 posts)then Vance is a weasel.
Even if it isn't true, the loser is still a weasel. Just like his buddy, Trump.
SamuelTheThird
(109 posts)But maybe trump didn't have a choice?
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4778359-russia-welcomes-vance-views-ukraine/
AkFemDem
(2,027 posts)a GREAT debater. She would absolutely smoke him in a debate- I am not at all surprised he's chickening out. He does not want to be beaten publicly, especially by a woman.
markodochartaigh
(1,916 posts)And Vice President Harris is on the correct side of every issue.
Klarkashton
(1,754 posts)Figures why?
LetMyPeopleVote
(153,868 posts)Link to tweet
JD Vance is already employing an excuse of cant commit with the uncertainty of the Democratic ticket.
I suggest that JD eyeliner Vance start prepping now for an August debate. 2 weeks is going to go fast and the Democratic Ticket will be Biden/Harris.
Start cramming now because your 18 month experience in all things politics is minuscule compared to VP Harris.
You can try and disinfect your web page and Twitter but remember ..The internet is forever.
travelingthrulife
(426 posts)With the MAGA crowd that might go a long way.
patphil
(6,888 posts)He talks about childless women, and men, and how these people shouldn't have the same voting rights as parents.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/morgansloss1/jd-vance-childless-left-voting-power-parents
This striping of rights of a fairly large cross section of American Society is meant to marginalize them, and justify treating them as less than full citizens. In his perverted view of society, it's not just women who are to blame for much of the nation's woes (whatever they are), but, by implication, homosexual men and any other males who are not contributing to the gene pool.
Essentially, he wants forced parenthood for all adults as a way of demonstrating their dedication to the future of the nation.
This comes from the party that decries government interference in the lives of it's citizens. I guess that concept is only important when it suits them. In actuality, the so called party of small government is ready, willing, and would like to be able to engage in total control over the lives of everyone.
Liars will lie, and dictators will dictate. And so the successor to Donald Trump's Magaworld is established and defined as a 39 year old monster, who will be ready to step in when Trump falters.
HPM
(14 posts)deeply unpopular and out of synch with the vast majority of Americans. Republican politicians are only interested in throwing red meat to the cult. During Trumps term he never once even hinted that a President is President of all the people, not just his voters. He doesnt understand the concept. Vance was hired with the understanding that he will never stray from MAGA doctrine. Debating Harris there will be nowhere to hide. She can nail him on policy and on his previous statements comparing Trump to Hitler - clearly a place he doesnt want to go and that the chickenshit press would never venture.
Abigail_Adams
(333 posts)It reinforces Harris's experience as a prosecutor.
Vance knows she will harp on reproductive rights, and rebutting her will highlight his horrible stance on that subject in front of the whole country, not just the RBC this week.
Dem4life1234
(887 posts)Because she would mop the floor with his beard.
Tickle
(2,955 posts)The Trump campaign suggested Wednesday its hands are tied because it doesnt know who will be on the Democratic ticket.
We dont know who the Democratic nominee for vice president is going to be, so we cant lock in a date before their convention, said Brian Hughes, a Trump campaign senior adviser.
Citing a list of Democrats mentioned as possible candidates should there be a shakeup on the partys ticket, Hughes said scheduling a vice-presidential debate right now would be unfair to California Gov. Gavin Newsom, Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker, Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer or whoever Kamala Harris picks as her running mate.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/trump-campaign-burns-biden-over-vp-debate-implying-he-may-not-head-the-ticket/ar-BB1qaOnQ?ocid=BingNewsVerp
Magoo48
(5,135 posts)And like all conservatives, christian nationalists, authoritarians, and fascists; hes scared to death of women. And, straight forward, strong, informed women are all seen as a threat.
Straw Man
(6,757 posts)... that Harris would mop the floor with him. Among other pertinent factors, consider the facts that (a) she is a former prosecutor, and (b) he has something to hide -- his stance on abortion. That's a very potent combination.
mwb970
(11,685 posts)Geechie
(924 posts)He has gone on public record as saying he would like to ban abortion.
manicdem
(497 posts)I really hope it remains a Biden/Harris campaign. However if Biden were to drop out and Harris becomes the nominee, then it would have proved Vance correct and blowback on us.
Best to withhold comment for the time being. I don't think a few weeks wait will change anything.