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Metaphorical

(2,073 posts)
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 12:30 PM Jul 16

Can we get some consensus here?

1. Short of one bad debate, when Biden was clearly exhausted and sick with a cold, Biden has been on the campaign trail, indeed, has been a veritable dynamo. Can we PLEASE put to bed the notion that Biden is a) senile, b) decrepit, c) incompetent. He's fucking human. You try maintaining the schedule that he does and not have days where you should be resting but can't. I suspect most people would wilt pretty early on.
2. The corporate media channels are clearly all in for Trump. This shouldn't be even remotely surprising. They are the mouthpieces of the 0.1%, and that sliver of a sliver of the population clearly does not like what Biden is doing to them. BTW, when FDR was in office, the newspapers were just as scathing, just as obsequious, just as self-serving. FDR was re-elected THREE times. That should tell you something right there.
3. Trump is a media creature. He didn't make money by buying and selling real estate, he made money by selling his caricature of a billionaire - Trump university, Trump casinos, Trump steak ... he generally didn't actually own most of these, he simply licensed his name and image. He is the ultimate influencer, and he knows that the only way he stays relevant (and out of prison) is to continue to be the biggest bully on the block.
4. Campaigners vs. Governors - one of the biggest problems in our political system is that the art of campaigning and the art of governing are two very different skill sets. Governing is hard because it requires staying up to date on thousands of different issues daily, making decisions based on too little information, and always angering somebody. Campaigning is grueling, but it is also a sales job - can you convince people to vote for you. Those are two very different, indeed, almost diametrically opposed skill sets. Democrats in general prefer competence (governing) over confidence (selling), while Republicans are the opposite. Biden has learned to be a campaigner, but he's also a highly competent and very experienced governor, and this is the thing that is scaring so many of his enemies.
5. Many people think that the reason that Obama was so vilified was the he was the first "black" president, despite in fact being only half African-American. I think this held true for the low-information voter, but it wasn't the (only) reason that the elite hated him. They hated him because he was effective. He passed landmark legislation, including the Affordable Care Act, despite an outright blitz of a campaign of villification against him.They did it by smearing him in the press, by undermining his proxies in Congress, and by an avalanche of lies. Biden is even more progressive than Obama, and his enemies are terrified about the prospect that he might be able to rein them in. They think they have him in check, but he is very likely to do a checkmate of his own because their board is not as strong as they think it is. A big part of the reason for this is that business people usually tend to believe they are smarter than they actually are.
6. Do I believe that the shooting was a false flag event? Yes. Too many pieces do not add up. It plays far too well into the narrative, and the lapses in security seemed almost deliberate. The young man, quite honestly, was likely as much a victim as an assassin, and easily manipulatible. Can I prove it? No, and that's the whole point. The whole bullet vs. glass argument is important because it signals intent - was Crooks trying to kill Trump, or to make him appear the martyred victim? If it was anyone else, this is conspiracy theory talk, but its Trump, who has played the martyred victim card so many times that it's beginning to wear very thin.
7. The point of ALL of this is simple. We are in the midst of a campaign of disinformation, manipulation, lies, and dark money - lots of it. Our opponents are likely not above murder, are certainly not above fomenting violence, and don't give a damn about the constitution. They want to tear down the one thing that can bring them down - the power of the ballot box.

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Can we get some consensus here? (Original Post) Metaphorical Jul 16 OP
Go Joe!!! 🌊 !!! Think. Again. Jul 16 #1
Kickin' Faux pas Jul 16 #2
He's in the race! We are supporting him! ananda Jul 16 #3
I have vision limitations and added breaks to your OP, hope you don't mind. CoopersDad Jul 16 #4
Biden is going to win Johnny2X2X Jul 16 #5
The power of the ballot box. Frank D. Lincoln Jul 16 #6
Many mainstream forces aligned for Fascism. We are the ones through our individual words, deeds, thoughts feelings somaticexperiencing Jul 16 #7

CoopersDad

(2,757 posts)
4. I have vision limitations and added breaks to your OP, hope you don't mind.
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 12:40 PM
Jul 16
1. Short of one bad debate, when Biden was clearly exhausted and sick with a cold, Biden has been on the campaign trail, indeed, has been a veritable dynamo. Can we PLEASE put to bed the notion that Biden is a) senile, b) decrepit, c) incompetent. He's fucking human. You try maintaining the schedule that he does and not have days where you should be resting but can't. I suspect most people would wilt pretty early on.

2. The corporate media channels are clearly all in for Trump. This shouldn't be even remotely surprising. They are the mouthpieces of the 0.1%, and that sliver of a sliver of the population clearly does not like what Biden is doing to them. BTW, when FDR was in office, the newspapers were just as scathing, just as obsequious, just as self-serving. FDR was re-elected THREE times. That should tell you something right there.

3. Trump is a media creature. He didn't make money by buying and selling real estate, he made money by selling his caricature of a billionaire - Trump university, Trump casinos, Trump steak ... he generally didn't actually own most of these, he simply licensed his name and image. He is the ultimate influencer, and he knows that the only way he stays relevant (and out of prison) is to continue to be the biggest bully on the block.

4. Campaigners vs. Governors - one of the biggest problems in our political system is that the art of campaigning and the art of governing are two very different skill sets. Governing is hard because it requires staying up to date on thousands of different issues daily, making decisions based on too little information, and always angering somebody. Campaigning is grueling, but it is also a sales job - can you convince people to vote for you. Those are two very different, indeed, almost diametrically opposed skill sets. Democrats in general prefer competence (governing) over confidence (selling), while Republicans are the opposite. Biden has learned to be a campaigner, but he's also a highly competent and very experienced governor, and this is the thing that is scaring so many of his enemies.

5. Many people think that the reason that Obama was so vilified was the he was the first "black" president, despite in fact being only half African-American. I think this held true for the low-information voter, but it wasn't the (only) reason that the elite hated him. They hated him because he was effective. He passed landmark legislation, including the Affordable Care Act, despite an outright blitz of a campaign of villification against him.They did it by smearing him in the press, by undermining his proxies in Congress, and by an avalanche of lies. Biden is even more progressive than Obama, and his enemies are terrified about the prospect that he might be able to rein them in. They think they have him in check, but he is very likely to do a checkmate of his own because their board is not as strong as they think it is. A big part of the reason for this is that business people usually tend to believe they are smarter than they actually are.

6. Do I believe that the shooting was a false flag event? Yes. Too many pieces do not add up. It plays far too well into the narrative, and the lapses in security seemed almost deliberate. The young man, quite honestly, was likely as much a victim as an assassin, and easily manipulatible. Can I prove it? No, and that's the whole point. The whole bullet vs. glass argument is important because it signals intent - was Crooks trying to kill Trump, or to make him appear the martyred victim? If it was anyone else, this is conspiracy theory talk, but its Trump, who has played the martyred victim card so many times that it's beginning to wear very thin.

7. The point of ALL of this is simple. We are in the midst of a campaign of disinformation, manipulation, lies, and dark money - lots of it. Our opponents are likely not above murder, are certainly not above fomenting violence, and don't give a damn about the constitution. They want to tear down the one thing that can bring them down - the power of the ballot box.

Johnny2X2X

(21,259 posts)
5. Biden is going to win
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 12:42 PM
Jul 16

I thinkit's close, and sure, he could lose, but I am more confident by the day right now.

7. Many mainstream forces aligned for Fascism. We are the ones through our individual words, deeds, thoughts feelings
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 02:02 PM
Jul 16

being made manifest, being expressed amongst ourselves and to others, and finally to pulling the lever in November, that can ardently affect our democracy in the right direction.

We have the principles and even the numbers of citizens on our side.

Mobilize. Message. Pay less attention to the noise machine that so clearly has its head up its ass.

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