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JMCKUSICK

(453 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 01:04 PM Jul 2024

No Drama Obama

Sound familiar?
Remember all the House and Senate candidates running as far and as fast as they could from Obama? Nate Silver wrote an article for the NY Times on Nov 3rd 2011 titled Is Obama Toast? Handicapping the 2012 election. Due to poor handling of the debt ceiling debacle and the following credit downgrade makes the economy vulnerable (paraphrasing).
There were periods of rough seas where his reelection prospects seemed in doubt.
All the chaos around Bidens debate performance, yet it feels like Biden is the calm center of the storm, just like Obama was.
I'm not drawing a direct comparison, just noting that maybe that same calm in the middle of the storm will serve Biden well.
For the record, I'm in the he should go boat but I'll absolutely vote for him when that opportunity comes. Kamala Harris is perfect for this moment with the issues in the spotlight.

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No Drama Obama (Original Post) JMCKUSICK Jul 2024 OP
Clinton as well........................ Lovie777 Jul 2024 #1
POTUS is like any other job in one significant way. Shermann Jul 2024 #2
I miss Obama. Dave Bowman Jul 2024 #3
"he should go"? Trashed. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #4
I'm with you on that!!! Butterflylady Jul 2024 #6
Let me ask you something.... usedtobedemgurl Jul 2024 #5
I'll restate the obvious first. JMCKUSICK Jul 2024 #7

Lovie777

(15,133 posts)
1. Clinton as well........................
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 01:08 PM
Jul 2024

the media is becoming a bad one act show and people are tuning them off.

Shermann

(8,698 posts)
2. POTUS is like any other job in one significant way.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 01:17 PM
Jul 2024

Lots of drama in the office likely means the work isn't being done.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,437 posts)
5. Let me ask you something....
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 01:29 PM
Jul 2024

You are in the he should go category. I believe that is your right. It is egotistical for me to think I have the only valid opinion. The republicans have set up in several swing states a trap. If Biden is taken off the ballot, they are going to make sure no one else can get on. I humbly doubt a write-in campaign would overcome that. So, it looks like if they get their wish and we throw Biden out, we will have absolutely no chance of winning. Knowing all of this, why do you think he should get out?

JMCKUSICK

(453 posts)
7. I'll restate the obvious first.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 03:48 PM
Jul 2024

If it's Joe, I'm voting for him enthusiastically.
I doubt the debate turned anyone from Biden to Trump. My point is that Biden isn't the best person to move us ahead for two reasons.
1. People were truly traumatized by what we saw on the debate stage. There is no way forward that doesn't include the pre event dread that will follow Joe everywhere like yesterday at the press conference.
There is no doubt in anyone's mind that had he bombed the press conference, he would've been toast right then and there.
We can't run the next 4 months with that fear underlying every day. What is happening right now is more of a demoralizing effect that would reduce turnout than change votes.
2. Kamala Harris with a VP that she picks would have a hell of a chance to win, as they would both be able to run almost nonstop against Trump and actually be much better at dictating the flow of conversation than Joe.
It would rejuvenate both the younger voters as well as voters of color that seem so minimized due to these distractions.
I don't believe I have the market cornered on ideas or solutions, I'm terrified of a demoralized base staying home.
We deserve Joe at his very best, and if that's not possible with some degree of certainty, lets take the very best that Kamala and her new running mate have to give.
It's also a bit demeaning that no one is considering what her candidacy would look like. If she was a male, we'd be discussing possible running mates for her now.
These are only my opinions and let me close with the following. I am Voting Dem up and down the ballot no matter who it is as this election is really that important.

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