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As a matter of curiosity, has DU rescinded its rule about not bashing Democrats? (Original Post) niyad Jun 2024 OP
I was thinking the same thing. We've got a few new posters doing their thing right now. shrike3 Jun 2024 #1
I am sorely disappointed. niyad Jun 2024 #3
As am I. shrike3 Jun 2024 #5
A few new posters? If only - Most of the anti-Biden topics and comments are from older members. Lancero Jun 2024 #7
I've seen a few new ones. shrike3 Jun 2024 #11
This "older member" BigmanPigman Jun 2024 #34
MIRT is on top of it, for at least now. marble falls Jun 2024 #36
Yes, I'm impressed. They bounced a poster I alerted in record time. shrike3 Jun 2024 #37
Sickening isn't it? Kingofalldems Jun 2024 #2
Yes. niyad Jun 2024 #6
Then alert them. wnylib Jun 2024 #4
I just did. shrike3 Jun 2024 #9
Thank you. wnylib Jun 2024 #12
One down. MIRT is on the job tonight. shrike3 Jun 2024 #21
Good. wnylib Jun 2024 #28
I don't mind true DUers voicing their opinions. shrike3 Jun 2024 #31
Few if any posters here TheProle Jun 2024 #8
I am getting emails and texts from liberal friends that are brutal. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #18
I am on a chat with people whose hair is on fire. shrike3 Jun 2024 #20
I am getting the same. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #27
My daughter sent me a brutal text, I can't repeat it. gab13by13 Jun 2024 #44
Similar from my daughter in law. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #46
Does the rule say you can't speak the truth about a debate performance? TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #10
Trump came across as confident and forceful. wnylib Jun 2024 #26
Saying Biden had a poor performance isn't bashing Democrats. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2024 #13
+1 demmiblue Jun 2024 #24
I have not seen anyone bashing Dems. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #14
This was a debate and the reality is that Biden did not do very well question everything Jun 2024 #15
growing my ignore list. mopinko Jun 2024 #16
... Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2024 #40
Hear, hear!!!!!!! BigmanPigman Jun 2024 #17
I don't blame Biden. Grasswire2 Jun 2024 #19
Happy talk in the face of adversity is not a good coping mechanism. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author orange jar Jun 2024 #23
I have seen it in the last 10 mins. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2024 #30
Seriously?! It's all over GD obamanut2012 Jun 2024 #33
Sorry but it's everywhere here violasays Jun 2024 #38
Criticizing a candidates performance is not "bashing" brooklynite Jun 2024 #25
Saying to replace Biden is against tos obamanut2012 Jun 2024 #41
Yeah, pretty maddening. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2024 #29
Alert them Raven123 Jun 2024 #32
An excellent question ismnotwasm Jun 2024 #35
If I could ForgedCrank Jun 2024 #39
Legitimate criticism is not the same as bashing. Crunchy Frog Jun 2024 #42
Does self-flagellation count? MaryMagdaline Jun 2024 #43
NO, unless you are bashing congressman Bowman.... DemocraticPatriot Jun 2024 #45
 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
1. I was thinking the same thing. We've got a few new posters doing their thing right now.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:03 PM
Jun 2024

Lancero

(3,111 posts)
7. A few new posters? If only - Most of the anti-Biden topics and comments are from older members.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:05 PM
Jun 2024
 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
11. I've seen a few new ones.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:06 PM
Jun 2024

Who seemed to be disruptors taking their opportunity. I'm fine with older DUers voicing their opinions. Opine away.

BigmanPigman

(52,500 posts)
34. This "older member"
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:16 PM
Jun 2024

has the same perspective as when I was a "younger voter" at DU since 2017 and I am pro-Biden /Dem all the way. Nothing has changed except I am even more pro-Biden. I do not listen to short sighted BS, I look at the achievements of a democratically elected POTUS. Fuck the media.
Fuck the both sides BS.
Fuck anyone who can not be an educated and responsible citizen and voter.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
31. I don't mind true DUers voicing their opinions.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:15 PM
Jun 2024

But a few disruptors showed up to do their thing.

TheProle

(3,161 posts)
8. Few if any posters here
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:05 PM
Jun 2024

Are being as brutal as DU’s beloved first-name-basis MSNBC pundits.

Irish_Dem

(61,734 posts)
18. I am getting emails and texts from liberal friends that are brutal.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:09 PM
Jun 2024

People here on DU are being very nice and polite.

gab13by13

(25,903 posts)
44. My daughter sent me a brutal text, I can't repeat it.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:41 PM
Jun 2024

Is there a difference if David Plouffe on MSNBC says that Joe lost the debate or if someone here says the same thing?

David Plouffe is a staunch Democrat and so are people here who feel Joe lost the debate.

I am sure the usual polls will have a field day in the coming days, glad I ignore polls.

Irish_Dem

(61,734 posts)
46. Similar from my daughter in law.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:48 PM
Jun 2024

Dyed in the wool Dem.
Attorney in liberal law practice.
Sharp and in the know.

Tomorrow we should know more.
The dust will settle.
We will see how things look.

 

TexasDem69

(2,317 posts)
10. Does the rule say you can't speak the truth about a debate performance?
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:06 PM
Jun 2024

And I see lots of longtime DU members speaking the truth about Biden’s debate performance. That’s significantly different than attacking Biden’s policies. Nobody is doing that.

wnylib

(25,183 posts)
26. Trump came across as confident and forceful.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:13 PM
Jun 2024

I wish that Biden had started out that way, too. But he did get stronger.

Trump lied hugely throughout the entire debate. Our strength will come from attacking those lies ruthlessly and relentlessly. Use Trump's lies in campaign ads to trash him.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,202 posts)
13. Saying Biden had a poor performance isn't bashing Democrats.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:07 PM
Jun 2024

If this site means that we have to smile and say he killed it tonight, then it has no purpose. We need to be able to talk about what is clearly going to be a problem. He needed to knock this out of the park, and he markedly did not.

Irish_Dem

(61,734 posts)
14. I have not seen anyone bashing Dems.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:08 PM
Jun 2024

But understandably there is a tactful post mortem on the debate performance we witnessed.

What I am reading here is much more tame than comments being made on other online
liberal sites.

So the rules are holding here on DU.

Just to let you know, I think tomorrow is going to be a difficult day.

question everything

(49,389 posts)
15. This was a debate and the reality is that Biden did not do very well
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:08 PM
Jun 2024

He is mild mannered his voice was raspy, his stuttering and Whiny was doing what he does best: lying and deflecting

Interesting, he is a lot more animated now, facing his supporters

Grasswire2

(13,753 posts)
19. I don't blame Biden.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:09 PM
Jun 2024

I blame whoever was charged with writing for him and prepping him.

Irish_Dem

(61,734 posts)
22. Happy talk in the face of adversity is not a good coping mechanism.
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:12 PM
Jun 2024

We face reality so we can fight the good fight and keep going.

Response to niyad (Original post)

violasays

(59 posts)
38. Sorry but it's everywhere here
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:21 PM
Jun 2024

No less than five threads advocating for President Biden to be replaced on the ticket.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
25. Criticizing a candidates performance is not "bashing"
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:12 PM
Jun 2024

From the TOS:

Do not post disrespectful nicknames, insults, or highly inflammatory attacks against any Democratic public figures. Do not post anything that could be construed as bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for any Democratic general election candidate, and do not compare any Democratic general election candidate unfavorably to their general election opponent(s).

ForgedCrank

(2,477 posts)
39. If I could
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:22 PM
Jun 2024

make just one suggestion (general statement to all, not OP), I would say that we all need to take a deep breath and relax a bit. I don't want to derail someone else thread but it needs to be said.
Joe Biden made excellent points tonight, his delivery was just lackluster, bordering on bad. But that doesn't mean the end of anything, it's just a stinking debate that no one will remember in a week. Joe Biden is doing good work, and many people like myself will judge him on his job performance, not his articulation in a live debate.
No, we don't need to replace him or abandon him, it's just a debate. We've seen terrible ones before that changed nothing, and this one will be the same. I'm firmly standing by Joe Biden til the end, one way or another. He's a decent guy and he's doing decent work. My vote is to continue that. I don't care if he messed up his lines, it means absolutely nothing to me or my vote.

MaryMagdaline

(7,931 posts)
43. Does self-flagellation count?
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 10:40 PM
Jun 2024

I sometimes yell at myself to do better. And I do. Already going to donate again tomorrow. Got work to do.

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