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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGreat American Retirement SCAM: Why The Wealthiest U.S. CEOs Want To TAKE AWAY Your Social Security
As the fiscal cliff debate takes center stage in the national conversation, a well-financed lobbying blitz is underwayone that bills itself as a non-partisan movement to put America on a better fiscal and economic path. Who are these dedicated, do-gooders who want nothing more in life than to save us from plunging over the cliff while solving our national debt problems and return prosperity to all Americans? Meet the Fix The Debt ganga collection of more than 80 of the nations most powerful and wealthy CEOs who have generously committed their time, money and lobbying efforts to contribute a solution to the nations debt crisis in the effort to avoid an economic disaster. And what do these great Americans have in mind as the recipe to cure our national ills? A plan that leaves it to the poor and middle-class to pay off our burgeoning debt through the scaling back of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
Certainly, there is nothing particularly new about the notion of the 1 percent looking to entitlements as the solution to debt, but these clever executives have added a few wrinkles to the plan that are well worth noticing as these corporate leaders are not simply content to simply lay the debt on the shoulders of those least able to bear itthey intend to make billions in the process. Their proposal comes complete with ideas ranging from granting themselves some sweet tax breaks via a change in the tax laws that would allow their companies to return overseas profits to the US tax freeinstantly dropping some $134 billion to their companies collective bottom lineto a well buried benefit that will earn them billions as a direct result of modifying Social Security to delay benefits to the millions who will suffer. And all of thisthey would have us believeis in the interest of serving their country.
Nice.
So, how does this clever little plan work? Prepare to be amazed. Its no accident that these 80 individuals are paid the big bucks for running our largest corporations. When it comes to sticking it to the other guy in order to make big money for their side of the bargaining table, these people clearly have no equals. First, a little background to set the stage While only 41 of the companies led by these CEOs even have a retirement plan for their employees (leaving their workers heavily reliant on their Social Security benefits), only 2 of the companies represented in the group are current in their contributionsleaving 39 that have fallen way behind on their employee plan contributions .about $103 billion behind. Keep that figure in mind as we will return to it shortly.
Also keep in mind that these companies have allowed their employee retirement plans to remain seriously underfunded while managing to continue to put away millions of tax free dollars in their executive retirement plans, all of which appear to be fully funded. To expand on the true nature of what is going on here, I turn to a fascinating study out this week from the Institute For Policy Studies entitled, A Pension Deficit Disorder: The Massive CEO Retirement Funds and Underfunded Worker Pensions at Firms Pushing Social Security Cuts. If you read nothing else this year, you really should review this easy to follow report containing some truly illuminating bits of information. But a warningif you take medication for high blood pressure, you are going to want to pop a few beta blockers before proceeding as the study is highly likely to make your diastolic and systolic readings go a bit haywire.
From the report:
- The 71 Fix the Debt CEOs who lead publicly held companies have amassed an average of $9 million in their company retirement funds. A dozen have more than $20 million in their accounts. If each of them converted their assets to an annuity when they turned 65, they would receive a monthly check for at least $110,000 for life.
- The Fix the Debt CEO with the largest pension fund is Honeywells David Cote, a long-time advocate of Social Security cuts. His $78 million nest egg is enough to provide a $428,000 check every month after he turns 65.
- Forty-one of the 71 companies offer employee pension funds. Of these, only two have sufficient assets in their funds to meet expected obligations. The rest have combined deficits of $103 billion, or about $2.5 billion on average. General Electric has the largest deficit in its worker pension fund, with $22 billion.
http://www.ips-dc.org/reports/pension-deficit-disorder
To recapthese CEOs can retire and expect a huge check each and every month for the rest of their lives from their corporate retirement accounts amassed and fully funded at the very same time they have failed to fund their employee corporate retirement accounts to the tune of $103 billionand now they want to take away Social Security benefits.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/11/28/the-great-american-retirement-scam-why-the-wealthiest-ceos-in-america-want-to-take-away-your-social-security/2/
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Skidmore
(37,364 posts)is someone I don't trust and he's always getting pulled onto MSNBC as a spokesperson for liberals.
Segami
(14,923 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Having a true progressive as speaker is of course out of the question in Kansas.
But he was good annd I was surprised by how liberal he sounded. But I'm with you - I don't really trust him.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)jody
(26,624 posts)retirement benefits with social insurance.
I assume there are a number of people who do or will depend essentially 100% on social security for their retirement.
The above would shift thinking from a retirement income that is bare survival to a larger income for a basic retirement life style.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)"They are just savvy businessmen."
"Its the Free Market."
"Look at all the Baseball Players."
As far as I'M concerned,
it is OK to despise these greedy sociopaths.
I view them with the utmost contempt.
You will know them by their WORKS,
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)if they cannot have diamond-encrusted napkins?
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(117,371 posts)Many companies no longer provide a defined retirement benefit.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)....and have forgotten that it is OUR job to hold our "Democrats" accountable.
When they campaign as "the workingman's friend" and then vote to bailout the CEOs, Toss aside "Regulation" that our fathers and grandfathers fought & died for, and vote FOR MORE "Free Trade",
WE need to Call THEM out and Hold THEM accountable for their betrayal.
Politicians in the rest of the civilized World FEAR their electorate.
In the USA, our elected officials LAUGH at us for falling for the SAME scams over & over again.
[font color=firebrick][center]"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone [/font][/center]
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"By their WORKS you will know them."