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Do you know an addict first hand? Talk about it if you wish. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jun 2024 OP
Everyone does, whether they know it or not. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2024 #1
Right. elleng Jun 2024 #6
Absolutely Dorian Gray Jun 2024 #38
Narcan on hand unweird Jun 2024 #2
When I blew my knee out a couple months ago they prescribed a Narcan inhaler with my pain pills AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #5
I had arm surgery several months ago True Dough Jun 2024 #22
This is hitting personally right now AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #3
You never know what "sticks". Time after time after time we had that hope dashed. Until it stuck. Stinky The Clown Jun 2024 #10
We were terrified when he checked himself out last Wednesday AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #14
alcoholism killed my brother Skittles Jun 2024 #4
Terrible. elleng Jun 2024 #7
Technically Dave says Jun 2024 #13
Best friend two years ago. Johonny Jun 2024 #15
I had a younger cousin who died of alcoholism at age 47. I quit drinking years before at age 45 Walleye Jun 2024 #28
A little context on what it's like to know an addict. Duncan Grant Jun 2024 #8
Thanks for that. Nar-Anon has similar. Stinky The Clown Jun 2024 #11
Both family and people I treated in therapy. nolabear Jun 2024 #9
My neighbor is on morphine tablets and etc. He Emile Jun 2024 #12
Yes. I am one. Elessar Zappa Jun 2024 #16
Many do not want to admit to being one. boston bean Jun 2024 #17
I lived and worked on an NDN Rez for over 6 years GusBob Jun 2024 #18
Yup ismnotwasm Jun 2024 #19
I did. It killed him. cloudbase Jun 2024 #20
A terrible thing. Duncan Grant Jun 2024 #25
Thank you. cloudbase Jun 2024 #30
My mother died of alcoholism at 48 tinrobot Jun 2024 #21
I was a heavy drinker for years bif Jun 2024 #23
A young acquaintance died of an overdose. He was 19. shrike3 Jun 2024 #24
many, many mdmc Jun 2024 #26
Heroin. A co-worker. Auggie Jun 2024 #27
Yes, they became extremely religious and a Trump cult member. Went from one addiction to another. nt Quixote1818 Jun 2024 #29
That path is not at all uncommon Stinky The Clown Jun 2024 #34
old saying WhiteTara Jun 2024 #37
My brother OD'd on crack Wicked Blue Jun 2024 #31
My cousin. He's been gone for many years. Paladin Jun 2024 #32
I don't think so. Most have been second-hand. sakabatou Jun 2024 #33
I know Alcoholics, and I'm a carb addict. ecstatic Jun 2024 #35
When Our Friend Was Living With Us Around 2015 Deep State Witch Jun 2024 #36
My brother was crack cocaine addict for 20 years. iluvtennis Jun 2024 #39
It's like that Prince song... SKKY Jun 2024 #40
My ex, divorced him got full custody Tree Lady Jun 2024 #41
One of my best friends was hit by a lawyer in a BMW years ago. LudwigPastorius Jun 2024 #42
I have known them in the past NanaCat Jun 2024 #43
I was with my son one night, looking on Conjuay Jun 2024 #44

Dorian Gray

(13,702 posts)
38. Absolutely
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 10:51 PM
Jun 2024

I know many. Raised by two. Sister to one. Sister in law to another. Wife to a recovered addict. Aunt to an early abuser of substances. Friend to many.

Some of the closest people to me. I'm happily in a place where the friends who I've met in my adult life are NOT big drinkers, and it's made a huge difference in how I approach parties and events. (I don't avoid them like I used to when I hung out with my college/high school friends who mostly do drink way too much.).

unweird

(2,933 posts)
2. Narcan on hand
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 04:49 PM
Jun 2024

For the opiate od’s. Couple of city events this summer had free Narcan inhalers and we picked up some.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,415 posts)
5. When I blew my knee out a couple months ago they prescribed a Narcan inhaler with my pain pills
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 04:52 PM
Jun 2024

That should be SOP for every opioid script.

True Dough

(19,513 posts)
22. I had arm surgery several months ago
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 06:13 PM
Jun 2024

and was given opioids for the pain. I took one pill each night before bed for three nights. Then I returned the rest to a pharmacy for disposal.

No need to take one more pill than I absolutely had to.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,415 posts)
3. This is hitting personally right now
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 04:50 PM
Jun 2024

A friend's son is on opioids and has been on the street for a year or so. He recently was admitted to the hospital after being hit by a car. While checking him out they found some weird infections that would require surgery and months of antibiotic treatments. We were excited that he was in the hospital, getting care and would be detoxed while getting treatment.
He checked himself out after one night and was back on the street. Fortunately his estranged girlfriend convinced him to go back in - basically gave him the ultimatum that she wasn't making excuses and would cut him off from his daughter.
We're praying that it sticks this time.

Stinky The Clown

(68,363 posts)
10. You never know what "sticks". Time after time after time we had that hope dashed. Until it stuck.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 05:04 PM
Jun 2024

I wish your friend and her/his son the good - the very best - kind of "stick".

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,415 posts)
14. We were terrified when he checked himself out last Wednesday
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 05:10 PM
Jun 2024

His mom was sure he was going for one last fix (well, we all were) - but those "last fixes" can be "last" for other reasons. Fortunately he called her when had checked back in. Apparently the other homeless were telling him to go to a different hospital that had more lax visitation rules - and he decided to go to the one that would have him isolated.

Dave says

(4,877 posts)
13. Technically
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 05:10 PM
Jun 2024

Lung cancer killed my mother, but my family and I think the cancer was enabled, if not caused by, her alcoholism. She was a very heavy drinker, never completely sober and often unable to even walk.

My ex-wife became a heroin and fentanyl addict after we divorced. She chose her brother over our marriage. He was a heroin and crack addict. My wife excised him from most of her adult life (criminal, abused women, lots of very bad stuff) until he showed up at our front door one day, his 18-wheeler parked at the curb. Their relationship grew to the point she and he were sleeping together while I was traveling on business. Sex and sleep in front of my pre-teen daughters who were too scared to say anything to me. In fact, I kept denying most of the stories until after I divorced her (she also went through 6 figure savings behind my back - that was the immediate cause for the divorce).

A friend of mine, an ex-Navy Seal, told me I should write the story of my life with her and the kids, but I’d have to call it fiction because it was so extreme no one would believe it could be true. Trust me, it far exceeds the little I say here.

Anyway, I got the kids. We have a happy life together (they’re both in their 30s now). My ex-wife, despite support from me and her dad (an ex-CFO at a Fortune 500 company), has been living on the streets for a couple of decades now. We’re all amazed she’s still alive.

Walleye

(34,447 posts)
28. I had a younger cousin who died of alcoholism at age 47. I quit drinking years before at age 45
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 07:26 PM
Jun 2024

I guess the disease does run in families. We had a great uncle who was a binge drinker. He would come for my father to take care of him when he was drunk. So many years ago, we were way too young to know what was going on. Coming from an immediate family of teetotalers

Duncan Grant

(8,425 posts)
8. A little context on what it's like to know an addict.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 05:03 PM
Jun 2024

This questionnaire was created for the friends and families of alcoholics — but it’s transferable.

Are You Troubled by Someone’s Drinking?

nolabear

(42,853 posts)
9. Both family and people I treated in therapy.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 05:03 PM
Jun 2024

My grandfather was an alcoholic. It killed him eventually. He was both a terrible burden on my grandmother and loved by just about everybody. I’m probably sane because of his unconditional, fierce love.

And I’ve known a number through being a therapist. If they were seeing me they were trying. It was often just miserable. The disease has a vise grip and is triggered by so many things. I saw some genuinely good people do desperate things. I’ve always been grateful that no one else in my family seems to suffer from it. In some ways it’s pure luck and in some it’s privilege—the ability to get support and help.

Emile

(28,213 posts)
12. My neighbor is on morphine tablets and etc. He
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 05:09 PM
Jun 2024

was going to a special pain doctor who was arrested for over prescribing pain meds. I keep my distance from him and his strange mood swings.

Elessar Zappa

(15,272 posts)
16. Yes. I am one.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 05:28 PM
Jun 2024

Addicted to opiates for four years. Low point was stealing my dad’s painkillers after he had some from a surgery. Really shitty move. I went into treatment after that. I’ve been on suboxone now for seven years and I don’t plan to go off it because I fear relapse. I empathize with Hunter and feel for Joe.

boston bean

(36,415 posts)
17. Many do not want to admit to being one.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 05:30 PM
Jun 2024

So I can see how an addict would answer no on an official application under perjury.

Even some who have been in treatment do not call themselves one, especially if they have relapsed.

GusBob

(7,475 posts)
18. I lived and worked on an NDN Rez for over 6 years
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 05:34 PM
Jun 2024

I knew too many addicts. Every man woman and child is co dependent to some form of addiction.

The day before I left, 2 of my patients, meth addicts both, were gunned down in a targeted cartel shooting. I could tell a million stories and have heard many sad tales

Am working for another rural tribe and addiction is an issue across the county and cultures here too. I dont live on this Rez so its not in my face 24/7.


The problem now is addicts are getting busted and sent to jail and not getting treatment. They get dope sick in jail and then clean. When they get out their tolerance is down and most of the overdose deaths are within 2 weeks of release

ismnotwasm

(42,402 posts)
19. Yup
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 05:57 PM
Jun 2024

Myself (in recovery) my sister (has cocaine and meth induced psychosis) my son (fentanyl, active addiction) Possibly my brother, who has other issues, my father (dead) my grandfather (dead) my GREAT grandfather from what I understand (dead, obviously) My aunt (we don’t talk)


I am a nurse on a transplant unit (livers, pancreas, kidneys, small bowel) I have seen hundreds of people with alcohol use disorder or substance use disorders. We focus on harm reduction these days.

Duncan Grant

(8,425 posts)
25. A terrible thing.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 07:14 PM
Jun 2024

Sincerely wishing you peace of mind and comfort. That goes for everyone on this thread who shares this experience.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
24. A young acquaintance died of an overdose. He was 19.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 06:28 PM
Jun 2024

A relative of mine died in the same fashion. He left behind a wife and two children.

Auggie

(31,704 posts)
27. Heroin. A co-worker.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 07:21 PM
Jun 2024

High-ranking position, stole from the office and co-workers to support the habit. And he wasn't even fired.

Paladin

(28,668 posts)
32. My cousin. He's been gone for many years.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 07:52 PM
Jun 2024

He came back from Southeast Asia and out of the military with a raging drug problem. All our efforts to help him were for nothing---he ended up taking his own life. It's been almost 50 years, and it still hurts.

ecstatic

(34,135 posts)
35. I know Alcoholics, and I'm a carb addict.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 08:30 PM
Jun 2024

I really hope Hunter has an amazing support system. It appears that he does.

Deep State Witch

(11,075 posts)
36. When Our Friend Was Living With Us Around 2015
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 09:10 PM
Jun 2024

She was on fentanyl extended release patches for pain management. One of them must have been damaged, and it was giving her 3 days dosage at once. I got home to find her high as a kite. So, I told her to sit her ass down on the sofa and called 911. They came, I explained that she was on fentanyl patches, and they took her to the hospital. In the ambulance, they gave her Narcan. By the time she got to the hospital, she was better - although she had a splitting headache.

That's why I keep Narcan handy. Just in case something bad happens.

iluvtennis

(20,600 posts)
39. My brother was crack cocaine addict for 20 years.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:02 PM
Jun 2024

Nothing that we the family did for him brought him out of it.

Several times in prison as he supported the habit by stealing from businesses ( … never broke into anyone’s home, just businesses…).

After released from prison about 15 years ago, he buddied up with another recovering addict and they helped each other stay clean and not get back with the same old druggie folks.

He’s been clean for 15 years now

SKKY

(12,135 posts)
40. It's like that Prince song...
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:22 PM
Jun 2024

..."In September my cousin tried reefer for the very first time. Now he's doing horse. It's June."

Tree Lady

(12,059 posts)
41. My ex, divorced him got full custody
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 11:28 PM
Jun 2024

because he got hooked on drugs. He's been clean last 15 years, I am glad for my kids who see him now. We split 30 years ago. He traded drugs for carbs and sugar, very overweight. To me sugar is an addiction too. One I also struggle with.

LudwigPastorius

(10,505 posts)
42. One of my best friends was hit by a lawyer in a BMW years ago.
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 12:22 AM
Jun 2024

The accident really messed up his back. He was prescribed opiates so he could function, then his doctors pulled the prescription from him after a year, so he sought out another source for pills.

He was functional for a while, but he started doing heroin because it wasn't as expensive as black market pills. The chronic pain, and the daily chase looking for "medicine", did him in.

At the age of 55 he bought a gun, wrote a note, parked in a hospital parking garage, and blew his brains out.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
43. I have known them in the past
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 06:37 AM
Jun 2024

I've known several. All of them are dead now, so I no longer know anyone who's an addict.

Conjuay

(1,946 posts)
44. I was with my son one night, looking on
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 08:01 AM
Jun 2024

Google at the neighborhood I grew up in. It became disturbing as I pointed out house after house of people I knew. There must have been a dozen people from my class and the class just before me that had died from heroin.
The more I thought about it, I realized I knew no one who died, say in a car wreck, or in Vietnam.

Everyone I knew who passed in the late '60's early '70's was because of a needle in the arm.
As for the original question for the last 16 or so years I've been a former drunk.

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