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fried eggs

(910 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:35 PM Nov 2012

Is DU now in lockstep with McCain, Ayotte, and Graham and united against Susan Rice?

It certainly appears so. The right wing knows that when attacking from the right doesn't work, simply attack from the left and we will eat it right up. Pathetic!

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Is DU now in lockstep with McCain, Ayotte, and Graham and united against Susan Rice? (Original Post) fried eggs Nov 2012 OP
Is this the stupidest OP of the day? regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #1
Gets MY Vote! x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #20
+1 Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #26
mine also. nt Mojorabbit Nov 2012 #53
Yes, your post is. Yet you made it? whistler162 Nov 2012 #29
What is your 'duck' that you think you've identified? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #35
Actually, the investments in energy companies bother me a lot. yardwork Nov 2012 #37
If not.. 99Forever Nov 2012 #33
Yes.n/t godai Nov 2012 #60
It's in the running. NCTraveler Nov 2012 #62
Why do you ask? And ... no. nt babylonsister Nov 2012 #2
no elleng Nov 2012 #3
"DU" does not do "lockstep" jberryhill Nov 2012 #4
Democrats in general Aerows Nov 2012 #47
WHAT??????? spanone Nov 2012 #5
What generated this question? RKP5637 Nov 2012 #6
her substantial holdings in TCPL ibegurpard Nov 2012 #9
Oh! Thanks!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #14
Lol. JBoy Nov 2012 #7
. Jamaal510 Nov 2012 #8
Thanks! now my sides hurt. nt Snotcicles Nov 2012 #19
Ahha I'm with this GETTINGTIRED Nov 2012 #28
LMFAO Aerows Nov 2012 #48
I so wasn't ready for that while scrolling down. Thanks for the laugh. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2012 #63
Did I miss something union_maid Nov 2012 #10
Pretty much. RomneyLies Nov 2012 #11
Who's far left? ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #31
To be quite honest, I disagree with the premise of your statement. RomneyLies Nov 2012 #34
You've shown your cards. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #36
You have no clue about me RomneyLies Nov 2012 #38
And here is some good old fashioned dissent right here Aerows Nov 2012 #54
I love Susan Rice and cannot wait to see her serve as SOS. NYC_SKP Nov 2012 #12
I wish there were a different abbreviation than SOS, 'cause often I think of the other SOS when RKP5637 Nov 2012 #15
Fried what???? nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #13
I think a few people have expressed some concern over her holdings in a firm having to do with hrmjustin Nov 2012 #16
"LOCKSTEP"? Here? catbyte Nov 2012 #17
is anyone on here saying she shouldn't be Sec of State because of Benghazi ? JI7 Nov 2012 #18
Guess you think your clever? Isoldeblue Nov 2012 #21
"Most of us here in DU" fried eggs Nov 2012 #24
With only 325 posts of your own, you're in no position to try to pull rank muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #25
Ouch!!!! AlexSatan Nov 2012 #46
been seeing a lot of this lately and I question the sincerity of their 'concern' as much as McCain's blm Nov 2012 #59
I only post Isoldeblue Nov 2012 #40
Irony. It's whats for dinner. nt NCTraveler Nov 2012 #64
I am solidly with Susan Rice, investments and all. No rethuglican witch hunt will mfcorey1 Nov 2012 #22
can i ask why? ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #41
She brings solid experience in foreign affairs. Now, all will not agree with some of her mfcorey1 Nov 2012 #44
"Lockstep"?? Well FUCK that SHIT .. nt Raine Nov 2012 #23
DU? Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #27
Some think the GOP is playing 4D chess. They secretly like Rice but pampango Nov 2012 #30
Lock step? ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #32
In what universe are we supposed to be happy about an SOS pick woo me with science Nov 2012 #39
no creon Nov 2012 #42
"You're either with us or against us" -George W. Bush, Nov. 6, 2001 LeftyMom Nov 2012 #43
I love your posts. woo me with science Nov 2012 #61
Heaven forfend we unite in our opposition to flying murder robots. LeftyMom Nov 2012 #65
herpity derpity frylock Nov 2012 #45
I've been looking for a new framer for my house Capt. Obvious Nov 2012 #49
What is this place Aerows Nov 2012 #50
If you think DU is EVER in lockstep on any issue or anyone bowens43 Nov 2012 #51
You beat me to it! Is a gaggle of feral cats EVER in lockstep? nt Speck Tater Nov 2012 #52
It is possible to think in shades of gray, not only just in black and white thinking quinnox Nov 2012 #55
It occurs to me Aerows Nov 2012 #56
You're kidding, right? n/t BeeBee Nov 2012 #57
Are YOU so easily fooled by McCain and Co that you BUY their dog and pony show of 'opposing' Rice blm Nov 2012 #58
Who sent you? JoePhilly Nov 2012 #66
What is this...lockstep you speak off? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #67
 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
29. Yes, your post is. Yet you made it?
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:29 AM
Nov 2012

The OP's observation is not incorrect.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021895778

Not to mention the "SUDDENLY REVEALED" investments in energy companies that would benefit from the KeystoneXL pipeline.

walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. Guess what it ain't a hummingbird!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,158 posts)
35. What is your 'duck' that you think you've identified?
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:49 AM
Nov 2012

Do you really think that DU is "now in lockstep with McCain, Ayotte, and Graham"? Do you think that a couple of threads, bringing up totally different points from those senators, means DU as a whole has started agreeing with them, despite all the DU threads pointing out how the senators are full of shit? If so, you're completely clueless. Like the thread starter.

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
37. Actually, the investments in energy companies bother me a lot.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:25 AM
Nov 2012

Why would a career diplomat have such extensive investments in gas and oil companies? Whether true or not, it certainly looks like Susan Rice has a vested interest in the U.S. going to war in oil-rich regions. And she was, in fact, in favor of the war in Iraq. That smells, frankly.

This has nothing to do with the stupid Republican attacks against her.

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
10. Did I miss something
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:44 PM
Nov 2012

Maybe something happened while I was ordering holiday gifts? Whatever it was, I'm quite surprised that it resulted in DU being in lockstep with McCain, Ayotte, and Graham on anything at all.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
11. Pretty much.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:45 PM
Nov 2012

The GOP should learn the lesson of never attacking from the right. Always attack form the left and the far left will always do their dirty work.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,846 posts)
31. Who's far left?
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:03 AM
Nov 2012

I consider myself to the left, true. But I only seem far left because the Democratic party has been infiltrated by center-right neo-cons.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
34. To be quite honest, I disagree with the premise of your statement.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:16 AM
Nov 2012

The Democratic party HAS NOT been infiltrated by the center-right. The center right has been a part of the Democratic Party coalition for decades. Accept it or be like the Republican Party, driven completely by the fringe elements of the furthest edge of political beliefs.

Neither party benefits from having the fringe elements control the agenda. Right now, the fringe right is destroying the GOP. Starting around 1972 with the disastrous nomination of George McGovern, the fringe left devastated the Democratic Party. The fringe left, in fact, insured that a Ronald Reagan would become president allowing for the so-called "conservative revolution" in this country.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
38. You have no clue about me
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:36 AM
Nov 2012

My stances on most issues are probably to the left of you. I am a realist, though. Rhetoric is the art of the ridiculous. Politics is the art of the possible. I understand that there is no way in hell I will ever get everything I want implemented. One must compromise in order to advance one's agenda.

Only the politically naive or the fringe of the fringe fail to see this reality and demand ideological purity. Those elements have all but destroyed the GOP. Those elements very nearly destroyed the Democratic Party in the late 70's and early 80's.

And do not get me wrong. There are certain areas where I will accept no compromise. Amongst these are the eligibility age for Medicare and the retirement age for social Security. IMO, altering these two things would be to break the compact of the Democratic coalition. If elected Democrats are so foolish as to do something like this, they will have destroyed themselves.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
54. And here is some good old fashioned dissent right here
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:07 PM
Nov 2012

Who says we march in lockstep when we freely disagree with one another?

RKP5637

(67,032 posts)
15. I wish there were a different abbreviation than SOS, 'cause often I think of the other SOS when
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:53 PM
Nov 2012

I see SOS.

PS: I think she would be great too!!!

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
16. I think a few people have expressed some concern over her holdings in a firm having to do with
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:58 PM
Nov 2012

the pipeline. I do not see people here giving up on here. I want the president to pick a fight. I think you are wrong on this. DU on the whole stands with her.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
21. Guess you think your clever?
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:59 AM
Nov 2012

Actually, most of us here in DU march to a different drummer. Most of us don't do the party lockstep, because we have the ability to choose to think for ourselves. We leave the brainwashing to the right wing-nuts. Maybe, you are projecting your own feelings? Could be. But not clever, enough.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,158 posts)
25. With only 325 posts of your own, you're in no position to try to pull rank
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:59 AM
Nov 2012

based on the number of posts you've made. Isoldeblue, however, seems to understand the general thinking on DU far better than you do. You seem to have taken one thread, about Rice's holdings in Canadian oil companies (not that you explained that was what you were whining about - someone else had to do that), and suddenly think that 'DU is in lockstep', and call the whole of DU 'pathetic'.

blm

(112,920 posts)
59. been seeing a lot of this lately and I question the sincerity of their 'concern' as much as McCain's
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:27 PM
Nov 2012

'opposition' to Rice. I'm not buying either. McCain and Company want Obama cornered into naming Rice so they can have the neocon they prefer (ala Hillary) while they enjoy the 'perks' with the base of pretending they are against her.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
40. I only post
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:57 PM
Nov 2012

when I have something of substance, worth saying.

I've lurked here a long time, so I think I have the feel of many that post here.

mfcorey1

(10,997 posts)
44. She brings solid experience in foreign affairs. Now, all will not agree with some of her
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:04 PM
Nov 2012

diplomatic relations, but they have not destroyed our relations with the many countries with which she collaborate. In addition, she is closer to state department affairs than bringing in a newbie. I also do not want to see McCain, Ayotte, and Graham use their bully pulpit to destroy the career of the UN Ambassador. They are mean spirited and obviously have an agenda of creating chaos for the second term of the President. Would McCain like for us to revisit the many allegations that are there about his time as a prisoner of war? There are still questions there that might want us to retrieve any medals he has.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
30. Some think the GOP is playing 4D chess. They secretly like Rice but
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:38 AM
Nov 2012

figure that if they attack her unrelentingly, Obama will reflexively nominate her just to spite them, secretly giving them who they wanted all along.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
39. In what universe are we supposed to be happy about an SOS pick
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:39 AM
Nov 2012

who is a warmonger and who has intimate ties to Big Oil?

What ridiculous propaganda to get Dems to celebrate exactly the sort of SOS we should be opposing.

Removing Kerry from the Senate or placing Rice at SOS should not be the only options here.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
43. "You're either with us or against us" -George W. Bush, Nov. 6, 2001
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:04 PM
Nov 2012

Try not to emulate the patron saint of cartoonish simplifications of a complex world.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
61. I love your posts.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:55 PM
Nov 2012

This grade school argument is all over the board today. In responses to this thread, we are told that, because Ron Paul is against drone strikes, we should be for them:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021896319



LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
65. Heaven forfend we unite in our opposition to flying murder robots.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:12 PM
Nov 2012

I really wonder about people sometimes. *sigh*

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
50. What is this place
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:58 PM
Nov 2012

Where all DUers agree? Delusionals United? Dark Utterances? Demonic Uteri?

Because it certainly isn't Democratic Underground. I don't think we can even agree with what morning beverage to drink is acceptable around here, even if coffee, tea, milk and organic juice were in the running.

Hell, I'm pretty sure that someone on here wants to discuss the color of the sky and whether water is wet.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
51. If you think DU is EVER in lockstep on any issue or anyone
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:03 PM
Nov 2012

then you haven't been around very long

We never do lockstep...

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
55. It is possible to think in shades of gray, not only just in black and white thinking
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:08 PM
Nov 2012

It's simple-minded to think, "Oh, since the GOP is attacking Rice, that means I have to be for her"

It's possible to think, "Oh, I really don't like certain things about Rice (hawkish to the max, oil polluters heavy investor) so I don't want her as SoS. What the GOP is doing is irrelevant to my opinion"

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
56. It occurs to me
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:09 PM
Nov 2012

that the OP would be better off calling themselves "Fried Chicken". They certainly are angling for the job.

blm

(112,920 posts)
58. Are YOU so easily fooled by McCain and Co that you BUY their dog and pony show of 'opposing' Rice
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:20 PM
Nov 2012

whose neocon views (ala Hillary) comport most closely with their hawkishness?

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