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CBHagman

(17,111 posts)
Mon May 27, 2024, 12:57 AM May 2024

Time to ask again: What actions are you taking in advance of the vote this November?


16 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Donating money to candidates, parties, or causes.
6 (38%)
Participating in postcard campaigns.
3 (19%)
Making get-out-the-vote calls.
0 (0%)
Registering voters.
1 (6%)
Canvassing.
0 (0%)
Writing (blogging, writing letters to the editor, using social media).
0 (0%)
Several things (Feel free to specify what).
4 (25%)
Still trying to decide what to do.
1 (6%)
None of the above (Feel free to add your own activities).
1 (6%)
Not taking any action this year.
0 (0%)
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Time to ask again: What actions are you taking in advance of the vote this November? (Original Post) CBHagman May 2024 OP
Pondering the reasons why Jimmy Carter lost in 1980. Frasier Balzov May 2024 #1
Three words: gas, inflation, hostages DFW May 2024 #2
Oh, the framing! CBHagman May 2024 #4
My dad was a prominent member of the Washington print press DFW May 2024 #5
DFW, his input on you shows abundantly. Prairie_Seagull May 2024 #6
My dad was felled by pancreatic cancer. It wasn't easy to take. DFW May 2024 #7
I am sorry. CBHagman May 2024 #15
Another point: he was a bad politician brooklynite May 2024 #8
Good point DFW May 2024 #10
And 4: Running against a charismatic, generational speaker Polybius May 2024 #13
Now there's an answer I hadn't considered, but... CBHagman May 2024 #3
Being primaried by Ted Kennedy didn't help TheProle May 2024 #11
It's on my agenda to participate in postcard campaigning Niagara May 2024 #9
Postcarding & harassing my daughters' friends about voting. Dulcinea May 2024 #12
Is constantly whining about Bibi and Gaza taking action? BannonsLiver May 2024 #14

Frasier Balzov

(3,426 posts)
1. Pondering the reasons why Jimmy Carter lost in 1980.
Mon May 27, 2024, 03:19 AM
May 2024

Trying to learn from history why the supposed advantage of the incumbency failed in that election.

DFW

(56,126 posts)
2. Three words: gas, inflation, hostages
Mon May 27, 2024, 04:32 AM
May 2024

The Republicans knew what they needed to make Reagan the choice of a majority of voters. Dominate the media (Carter was made to look pretty inept at the time. I remember that quite vividly), make a deal with the Ayatollahs not to release the hostages until after the election, it was a rather simple solution.

Incumbency is only an advantage if it is used properly (as Joe Biden has), AND an impartial press reports objectively. If the vast majority of the media has an agenda that includes the defeat of the incumbent president, the advantages of that incumbency diminish rapidly. It’s the old dilemma of a president putting together a project that cures cancer, and the press reporting: “President puts oncologists out of work.”

CBHagman

(17,111 posts)
4. Oh, the framing!
Mon May 27, 2024, 09:28 AM
May 2024

Yes, all of those issues matter.

I have spent some time on giving feedback to media, and frankly there appear to be hordes of us who care about framing and about ghastly omissions in U.S. coverage. The Washington Post, for example, has coverage that is full of holes at this point, such as what appears to be near-silence on that revealing Time Magazine interview with The Former Guy.

DFW

(56,126 posts)
5. My dad was a prominent member of the Washington print press
Mon May 27, 2024, 09:40 AM
May 2024

Thomas L. Stokes award, president of the Gridiron Club, THAT kind of prominent.

He already was yelling out warnings of the nasty direction the fourth estate was taking between 1996 and 2000, when he passed.

It's maybe merciful he never lived to see the perversion of his beloved profession that came after that.

Prairie_Seagull

(3,601 posts)
6. DFW, his input on you shows abundantly.
Mon May 27, 2024, 10:30 AM
May 2024

What an interesting life his and yours must have been. I am sure yours still is.

I still feel the pain of my own fathers passing, especially on that anniversary.

Somber thoughts on Memorial day brother

DFW

(56,126 posts)
7. My dad was felled by pancreatic cancer. It wasn't easy to take.
Mon May 27, 2024, 10:44 AM
May 2024

He was diagnosed in January of 2000. In late November, my mom called me to say that things were looking bad, and that if I wanted to have a last visit, I should get a move on. This was at the beginning of the week, I asked, "like tomorrow?" She said, maybe not, but not much later. I booked a flight over to Washington for that Saturday, returning to Germany the next Tuesday. I called when the plane landed, and my dad answered the phone. Still there, luckily. But Monday morning, he was in a bad way, and didn't make it til noon. It was hard to take. We laid him to rest at Arlington a month later, when my wife and daughters could come over for the ceremony.

I have never posted anything of him on DU, but I will make an exception here. Of the two journalists being interviewed, he is the one from New York. It was about the withdrawal of the nomination of Douglas Ginsburg for the Supreme Court. He only rarely did TV appearances, was more comfortable in his main role as a print journalist. This is from 1987.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?205-1/douglas-ginsburg-withdrawal

There aren't many journalists of his caliber left--if any. It's why I never even tried to go into journalism. Those were shoes I never even attempted to fill.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
8. Another point: he was a bad politician
Mon May 27, 2024, 10:54 AM
May 2024

He was a great POLICY MAKER, but he never built the political coalitions within the Democratic Party to build support for his policies.

(nb: I was in college at the time and took a special class on Presidential election strategies, taught by a professor with contacts in both Parties. We had regular briefings from members of both Parties, including Carter's Press Secretary.)

DFW

(56,126 posts)
10. Good point
Mon May 27, 2024, 11:23 AM
May 2024

Great ideas go nowhere if there are no great promoters of them, and in American politics, that has to start from the top down.

Polybius

(17,099 posts)
13. And 4: Running against a charismatic, generational speaker
Mon May 27, 2024, 12:43 PM
May 2024

It's very, very tough to run against a person who's charismatic and a great speaker. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama also were generational speakers.

CBHagman

(17,111 posts)
3. Now there's an answer I hadn't considered, but...
Mon May 27, 2024, 09:23 AM
May 2024

...I would suspect that many Democrats are considering the lessons both of '68 and of '80.

Thank you for bringing up that particular angle on the election.

Niagara

(9,070 posts)
9. It's on my agenda to participate in postcard campaigning
Mon May 27, 2024, 11:06 AM
May 2024

I've only been working per diem (about once a week) for the last 2 months.


I've had several unexpected big ticket expenses recently and so currently I will have do what I can within my limited budget.


Dulcinea

(7,264 posts)
12. Postcarding & harassing my daughters' friends about voting.
Mon May 27, 2024, 11:29 AM
May 2024

My girls are in college & both they & their friends are really motivated to vote. That does my heart good. I tell them, "When my generation is playing poker in the nursing home or one with the earth, it'll be your country. Do you want it to be a good place or not?"

I'm also postcarding with Postcards to Swing States. They need help!

Please help if you can: https://www.turnoutpac.org/postcards/

BannonsLiver

(17,588 posts)
14. Is constantly whining about Bibi and Gaza taking action?
Mon May 27, 2024, 12:48 PM
May 2024

Asking for some very gulllible, myopic people I know.

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