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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:40 AM Nov 2012

Are Republicans Pushing Kerry For SoS Over Rice So They Can ReElect Scott Brown For His Senate Seat?

Did Senator Barrasso let the cat out of the bag this morning on Jansing and Co.?

Is this their plan? To remove Senator John Kerry from his senatorial seat by nominating him for Secretary of State over Susan Rice?

These are distorted, trumped up charges against Susan Rice. These weasels and their motives need to be EXPOSED!


Here is Sen. Barrasso making his pitch for John Kerry saying his nomination would " sail through in the nominating process "..



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Are Republicans Pushing Kerry For SoS Over Rice So They Can ReElect Scott Brown For His Senate Seat? (Original Post) Segami Nov 2012 OP
same can be said sabbat hunter Nov 2012 #1
yep. satxdem Nov 2012 #2
Yup nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #3
Susan Collins just bashed the shit out of Susan Rice and then actually endorsed Kerry! Walk away Nov 2012 #4
Susan Collins sabbat hunter Nov 2012 #17
That, and McCain wants revenge on Obama for winning 2008 Lil Missy Nov 2012 #5
If President Obama caves on Rice and appoints Kerry sadbear Nov 2012 #6
Has Obama said he is appointing Rice? would he be caving? There WI_DEM Nov 2012 #8
You're right. sadbear Nov 2012 #15
Kerry might also be sabbat hunter Nov 2012 #16
Yes, and we shouldn't oblige them... WI_DEM Nov 2012 #7
"Behind the GOP Game on Rice" Segami Nov 2012 #10
And They Assume Wrong... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #9
Are Third Way Democrats woo me with science Nov 2012 #11
Yup, but... WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #12
That's EXACTLY what it is about for everybody but McCain and Graham RomneyLies Nov 2012 #13
absofuckinlutely librechik Nov 2012 #14

sabbat hunter

(6,922 posts)
1. same can be said
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:46 AM
Nov 2012

of any Senator elevated to a cabinet level position. They don't vote against their own.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
4. Susan Collins just bashed the shit out of Susan Rice and then actually endorsed Kerry!
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:54 AM
Nov 2012

These vampires of the GOP are not shy about showing their fangs in public anymore. I will cheerfully donate to what ever teabagger primaries Collins in 2014!

sabbat hunter

(6,922 posts)
17. Susan Collins
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:09 PM
Nov 2012

is fairly moderate (and by most GOPers she would be considered liberal as she is pro-choice, against a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, voted for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. She also voted to repeal DADT

Not sure why she is taking this stance against Susan Rice.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
6. If President Obama caves on Rice and appoints Kerry
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:00 PM
Nov 2012

then a member of the Massachusetts House delegation should take one for the team and run for the Senate seat.

I do love Ed Markey for that seat.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
8. Has Obama said he is appointing Rice? would he be caving? There
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:06 PM
Nov 2012

has been a lot of speculation for months about both Kerry and Rice for SOS.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
15. You're right.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:45 PM
Nov 2012

At this point, it's only an assumption that Rice is his preference.

But her appointment does make sense if/when Clinton leaves.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
7. Yes, and we shouldn't oblige them...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:05 PM
Nov 2012

Of course there is no guarantee that Brown would win, but he did once in a special election and it is just a fact that turnout in many special elections and midterm elections are smaller which helps republicans. Also, Brown would start any race (which is a short term race) with lots of name recognition and money. We need all the Dems we have in the Senate for the next two years.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
10. "Behind the GOP Game on Rice"
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:29 PM
Nov 2012
This point bears emphasizing, I think. I suspect that the Republicans want to block Rice because they want Obama to name John Kerry because they believe that Scott Brown can win that seat back. And as I've written before, he probably can, in my admittedly somewhat removed view (but also in the view of certain Bostonians I've consulted on the matter).

McCain and Graham have other motivations: getting a scalp, keeping phony impeachment hopes alive, etc. But let's not forget that these guys are politicians, and senators, and they think of politics and the Senate first. One less Democrat in the Senate would make for a nice little cherry on their sundae.

Which raises another point that deserves attention. If Harry Reid is going to push filibuster reform next January, why should they not include a provision that the minority can't filibuster certain categories of major appointments? The number of vacancies in this administration, judgeships and other key positions, is mind-boggling, and it reached the point where the administration simply stopped trying to fill positions because some wingut senator was placing a hold on every single nomination.

This too needs exposure to the old harsh disinfectant. But if Ayotte really puts a hold on Rice, I spect that'll get lots of attention. Swell move by the party allegedly trying to reach out now to nonwhite voters eh?


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/27/behind-the-gop-game-on-rice.html

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
9. And They Assume Wrong...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nov 2012

If Snotty was that fine of a Senator, the fine folks of Massetchussets would have re-elected him. Instead he turned off a lot of independent and female voters who will surely be voting again in 2014 as well as they have this year. It's a false assumption that I hope they stick with as the rushpublicans attempt to bully this President around.

The bottom line is there will soon be filibuster reform that will prevent the rushpublicans from throwing the tantrums they are now...and I think that's part of this game as well. Also the desperate need by the rushpublicans to feel they've won something if President Obama doesn't nominate Amb. Rice.

The rushpublicans still haven't learned that their obstructionist games were a major motivating factor that rallied Democrats this year...and will be a sole focus come 2014. Collins knows she's one that's under the gun...

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
12. Yup, but...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:33 PM
Nov 2012

Anyone who thinks that the "caustic reaction" from GOP senators on their meeting with Susan Rice yesterday gives Democrats any pause on a Rice nomination for Secretary of State, should think again, a Democratic Senate aide tells First Read.

Said the aide: "People are happy to fight for her. This is getting people's back up. The general sense of the mood is this is ridiculous. She's obviously qualified."

"The aide also questioned whether Republicans besides McCain, Graham, and Ayotte would think this is a 'smart fight to pick' given Rice's qualifications and that this would mean a 'high-profile fight with a qualified African-American woman.' As to the threat of holds from Ayotte and Graham, the aide said that if Rice is nominated and presents well at her confirmation hearing, there's a 'good chance cooler heads prevail' and there would be more than enough votes to confirm her. That would make Ayotte and Graham's holds 'moot' once it goes to a cloture vote, the aide said, because "either we have the votes or we don't.'"

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/28/democrats_ready_to_fight_for_susan_rice.html

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
13. That's EXACTLY what it is about for everybody but McCain and Graham
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:36 PM
Nov 2012

For those two, it's revenge for Rice turning McCain's so-called "foreign policy strength" into his greatest weakness during the 2008 election.

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