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SugarShack

(1,635 posts)
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:15 PM Nov 2012

A list by Country – Start Date of Universal Health Care – System Type

Last edited Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:52 PM - Edit history (2)

This smacks the claim down we are being led like Europe
List of Countries with Universal Health Care
April 18, 2012 By admin Leave a Comment
Thirty-two of the thirty-three developed nations have universal health care, with the United States being the lone exception . The following list, compiled from WHO sources where possible, shows the start date and type of system used to implement universal health care in each developed country . Note that universal health care does not imply government-only health care, as many countries implementing a universal health care plan continue to have both public and private insurance and medical providers.

Country – Start Date of Universal Health Care – System Type

Norway - 1912 – Single Payer
New Zealand – 1938 – Two Tier
Japan – 1938 – Single Payer
Germany – 1941 – Insurance Mandate
Belgium – 1945 – Insurance Mandate
United Kingdom – 1948 – Single Payer
Kuwait – 1950 – Single Payer
Sweden – 1955 – Single Payer
Bahrain – 1957 – Single Payer
Brunei – 1958 – Single Payer
Canada – 1966 – Single Payer
Netherlands – 1966 – Two-Tier
Austria – 1967 – Insurance Mandate
United Arab Emirates – 1971 – Single Payer
Finland – 1972 – Single Payer
Slovenia – 1972 – Single Payer
Denmark – 1973 – Two-Tier
Luxembourg – 1973 – Insurance Mandate
France – 1974 – Two-Tier
Australia – 1975 – Two Tier
Ireland – 1977 – Two-Tier
Italy – 1978 – Single Payer
Portugal – 1979 – Single Payer
Cyprus – 1980 – Single Payer
Greece – 1983 – Insurance Mandate
Spain – 1986 – Single Payer
South Korea – 1988 – Insurance Mandate
Iceland – 1990 – Single Payer
Hong Kong – 1993 – Two-Tier
Singapore – 1993 – Two-Tier
Switzerland – 1994 – Insurance Mandate
Israel – 1995 – Two-Tier
Taiwan - 1995 - Single Payer
United States – 2014 – Insurance Mandate

http://blog.livenewschat.tv/2012/03/31/list-of-countries-with-universal-healthcare/

We need to get to single payer....look at our date! So late in the game. So many got rich along the way.

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A list by Country – Start Date of Universal Health Care – System Type (Original Post) SugarShack Nov 2012 OP
The administrators from these other countries should come for a "round table" all on CSPAN! SugarShack Nov 2012 #1
Good post. yardwork Nov 2012 #2
Thanks! keep kicking SugarShack Nov 2012 #3
All msm should be focused on the ACA this coming year, 2014 its running... SugarShack Nov 2012 #4
May I have a link for this? haikugal Nov 2012 #5
Here you are SugarShack Nov 2012 #7
You can also add Taiwan to the list: 1995 - Single Payer subterranean Nov 2012 #6
Thanks! I will SugarShack Nov 2012 #8
Important point. enlightenment Nov 2012 #11
Moreover these countries are monopsonies eridani Nov 2012 #14
I was so hoping that somebody would point this out. Thank you. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #28
We need nationalized health care now. I don't care what you call it. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #9
k&R midnight Nov 2012 #10
And the complete list of countries that have rescinded their nat'l health plan after enacting one: Scuba Nov 2012 #12
But the privateers are working on it nxylas Nov 2012 #13
Wow, what a great list! nt valerief Nov 2012 #15
kick yardwork Nov 2012 #16
Surprised Taiwan was so late to the party leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #17
FWIW, the beginnings of single payer in Canada started in a single province in 1946... SidDithers Nov 2012 #18
So, in two years we'll be where Germany was in 1941 slackmaster Nov 2012 #19
At war with 10 different countries? MattSh Nov 2012 #25
We wanted to make sure it would work first liberal N proud Nov 2012 #20
Interesting list. Mass Nov 2012 #21
Tea-Party type was complaining ThoughtCriminal Nov 2012 #22
UAE does not have Universal Care at all... IS the rest of the list accurate? JCMach1 Nov 2012 #23
Not very accurate at all... MattSh Nov 2012 #24
They're limiting it to the top 32 developed nations, wickerwoman Nov 2012 #26
Congress shall extend Medicare to all Americans MrYikes Nov 2012 #27
Healthcare in Scotland prior to 1948 by the MichaelMcGuire Nov 2012 #29
K&R woo me with science Nov 2012 #30
Kick woo me with science Nov 2012 #31

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
6. You can also add Taiwan to the list: 1995 - Single Payer
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:40 PM
Nov 2012

By the way, Japan doesn't have single-payer. It has mandatory insurance (not-for-profit, of course), but it functions much like a single-payer system.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
11. Important point.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:29 PM
Nov 2012

Most (if not all) of the nations that have an 'insurance mandate' also have very strict regulation over how much is charged. While many allow companies to profit through 'extras' (like cosmetic procedures, etc), they are generally not allowed to profit from basic care policies.

That is a world of different from what we have instituted.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
14. Moreover these countries are monopsonies
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:20 PM
Nov 2012

That's like a monopoly, only instead of a single seller dominating the market, a single buyer does. That is generally the government, which dictates rates and coverage for basic insurance.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
9. We need nationalized health care now. I don't care what you call it.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 01:11 PM
Nov 2012

It would be nice to join the ranks of civilized countries.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
12. And the complete list of countries that have rescinded their nat'l health plan after enacting one:
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:05 PM
Nov 2012

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nxylas

(6,440 posts)
13. But the privateers are working on it
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:11 PM
Nov 2012

The sharks are circling, using the same Shock Doctrine tactics that are being used to justify gutting Social Security and Medicare in the States.

 

leftlibdem420

(256 posts)
17. Surprised Taiwan was so late to the party
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:43 PM
Nov 2012

The Kuomintang was authoritarian, conservative, and undemocratic, but they were definitely very statist and definitely not neoliberal.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
18. FWIW, the beginnings of single payer in Canada started in a single province in 1946...
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:45 PM
Nov 2012

When Saskatchewan passed Tommy Douglas' Saskatchewan Hospitalization Act.

Over the next 15 years, each of the 10 provinces set up their own Provincial single payers system.

The 1966 date referenced in your list is when the Federal government passed the Medical Care Act.

The Canada Health Act, which is the current framework of Canada's single payer system, wasn't passed until 1984.


Sid

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
20. We wanted to make sure it would work first
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:10 PM
Nov 2012



GREED is holding America back from being the great nation it once thought it was.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
21. Interesting list.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:12 PM
Nov 2012

FWIW, the French system started in 1945, with a mandatory system for all workers. The system at that point was already more complete than the ACA will be when fully implemented.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
22. Tea-Party type was complaining
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:14 PM
Nov 2012

He said people who want "socialized" medicine can move to other countries if they want it (seriously - he thinks this is a real option!). But people who don't want to pay for it have no place to go anymore.

My response was that "Yeah, it's hard to find a civilized country that thinks not being able to get health care because you have pre-existing conditions is a good idea".

Last time the topic ever came up.

JCMach1

(27,555 posts)
23. UAE does not have Universal Care at all... IS the rest of the list accurate?
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:21 PM
Nov 2012

Government Charity hospitals are not a Universal Care system. They are literally the last option. Only the extremely poor, or destitute go to these.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
24. Not very accurate at all...
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:55 AM
Nov 2012

Just about every country of the former Soviet Union has some type of universal health care, plus China, plus India. Yet not a single one of them are listed here. I guess they ignore them because they are somehow "less developed."

I'm guessing this one is a lot more comprehensive...

http://chartsbin.com/view/z1a

wickerwoman

(5,662 posts)
26. They're limiting it to the top 32 developed nations,
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 04:28 AM
Nov 2012

which seems fair. It's not a comprehensive list of every country with universal health care- just a list of developed countries that have had it for a while and the system they use.

China has universal health care but the standard is fairly low compared to the west. I remember being taken into a room the size of an airplane hangar full of barcaloungers in rows where people were strapped into IVs with a timer that beeped when the nurse was supposed to come and take you out again. Many of the hospitals were not very clean by Western standards. And a lot of the "prescriptions" I got were dubious Traditional Chinese Medicine treatments or OTC drugs in the west although they did have some truly badass cough syrups...

But it's not really fair to compare that to health care in the US or Europe. It may be universal but it's also a lot cheaper and probably less effective. Some are even dangerous because a lot of place dispense expired drugs they bought cheaply. A friend of mine had a stroke at 27 after taking expired medicine he got from a Chinese pharmacy.

I know in India too that the patients are expected to pay for their own medical supplies on hospital stays down to the sheets and syringes. If you don't have family to bring you home cooked meals and go out and buy all the supplies for you, your hospital stay is considerably less comfortable and effective.

 

MichaelMcGuire

(1,684 posts)
29. Healthcare in Scotland prior to 1948 by the
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:42 AM
Nov 2012

the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1947 came into being in 1948. UHC came about through two acts one for Scotland and one for England and Wales, there is no UK NHS Act there is in fact 3 NHS's in Britain not a single NHS. But even before that the local govr was involved in HC over half of Scotland's landmass mainly Highlands and Islands free for emergency use. State-funded health system run directly from Edinburgh 35 years earlier althou not universal.

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