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senseandsensibility

(19,918 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 02:26 PM Mar 2024

Maybe I'm dumb, gullible, too optimistic, or all of the above

but I am far from discouraged by this slight delay in trial and reduction of bond. Sure, it's not optimal. But he's still going to have to put up a hefty amount (which he probably doesn't have) and he's still going to have to pay E.Jeanne Carroll the entire amount when it's due.

I won't let this minor speedbump discourage me. IMHO other rulings by the Supreme Court and Aileen Cannon have been much more biased and unfair.

Just my two cents, but remember...It's not over til it's over.

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Maybe I'm dumb, gullible, too optimistic, or all of the above (Original Post) senseandsensibility Mar 2024 OP
Hmmmm.... are you Pollyanna or Pangloss? Goodheart Mar 2024 #1
For me it's just getting tired of the up/down news and opinion cycles. erronis Mar 2024 #26
Then CNN let him spew after the court MOMFUDSKI Mar 2024 #2
Well, I agree that was gross senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #4
They are claudette Mar 2024 #5
Plus they don't scream their questions at Trump, yorkster Mar 2024 #6
They did used to scream questions back senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #8
I do think the fairly recent presser after the Robert Hur yorkster Mar 2024 #9
I agree senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #17
I believe claudette Mar 2024 #3
When was the last time a multi-millionaire Blue Idaho Mar 2024 #7
Martha Stewart lame54 Mar 2024 #11
Well, she is a woman Blue Idaho Mar 2024 #19
And wasn't she Democrat at the time? BlueKota Mar 2024 #28
the man is still under TWO multi-felony indictments. bigtree Mar 2024 #14
Which will claudette Mar 2024 #20
Bernie Madoff Kennah Mar 2024 #21
Bill Cosby Tribetime Mar 2024 #32
My opinion is that you are too optimistic. hamsterjill Mar 2024 #10
It's funny how the 10 days... lame54 Mar 2024 #13
nor should you be bigtree Mar 2024 #12
I like the way you framed that! senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #16
No one should be encouraged by this overt 2 tier justice system, this is horrible ... and TFG isn't even rich he's just uponit7771 Mar 2024 #15
Exactly bdamomma Mar 2024 #18
Great attitude! senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #33
Good on you, sas.. This from Lisa Rubin.. Cha Mar 2024 #22
Thanks for posting this senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #27
That's nice. Scrivener7 Mar 2024 #23
Agree malaise Mar 2024 #24
There is another way of looking at it. anamnua Mar 2024 #25
That's a fair point to consider but given how devoted his followers are to him BlueKota Mar 2024 #30
I agree senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #34
Doesn't he get the money back though if he wins the appeal. BlueKota Mar 2024 #29
I"m not at all discouraged either. We WILL win in November. beaglelover Mar 2024 #31
 

Goodheart

(5,760 posts)
1. Hmmmm.... are you Pollyanna or Pangloss?
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 02:30 PM
Mar 2024

Just kidding.

I admire your ability to remain optimistic. I'm having a hard time with that.

erronis

(16,613 posts)
26. For me it's just getting tired of the up/down news and opinion cycles.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 05:15 PM
Mar 2024

And that may be part of the tactic - numb us all with so much crap that we give up.

 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
2. Then CNN let him spew after the court
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 02:32 PM
Mar 2024

hearing. Campaign time he gets is way more than Joe gets. What is wrong with our press and our courts?

yorkster

(2,237 posts)
6. Plus they don't scream their questions at Trump,
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 02:51 PM
Mar 2024

unlike the howler monkey approach they take with Pres. Biden.

senseandsensibility

(19,918 posts)
8. They did used to scream questions back
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 03:12 PM
Mar 2024

at cheato when he would give press conferences as president, but he would "scream" right back at them with insults and lies. Joe, of course, is polite. It's a different dynamic that doesn't always work in our favor unfortunately.

yorkster

(2,237 posts)
9. I do think the fairly recent presser after the Robert Hur
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 03:21 PM
Mar 2024

report was released was the worst press behavior up to that point. They shouted at Trump. This time at least they sounded like an attacking mob screaming at Joe Biden.
It was repulsive.
I think they should be called on and identify themselves.

senseandsensibility

(19,918 posts)
17. I agree
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 04:02 PM
Mar 2024

I actually e-mailed CNN for the first time in 20 years to complain about their correspondent, M.J. Lee.

Blue Idaho

(5,491 posts)
7. When was the last time a multi-millionaire
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 02:55 PM
Mar 2024

Was caught and penalized by the Justice Department? Nope, the rich play by a whole different set of rules than the rest of us. No real difference between our Oligarchs and those in Russia and China.

bigtree

(89,202 posts)
14. the man is still under TWO multi-felony indictments.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 03:28 PM
Mar 2024

When has that ever happened to a former president?

I know Trump thinks these delays mean he's scott-free, but repeating that delusion is really something else.

hamsterjill

(15,437 posts)
10. My opinion is that you are too optimistic.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 03:24 PM
Mar 2024

Sorry, but that’s how I see it.

Trump won’t ever pay a cent. I would love to be wrong, but point me to the fact that makes my thinking wrong.

bigtree

(89,202 posts)
12. nor should you be
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 03:26 PM
Mar 2024

...don't get caught up in the doomsaying takes, or the Trump won takes.

Trump may well think he's winning here (I don't think he believes that) but we don't have any need at all to take on that delusion.

uponit7771

(91,272 posts)
15. No one should be encouraged by this overt 2 tier justice system, this is horrible ... and TFG isn't even rich he's just
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 03:30 PM
Mar 2024

... a white male !!!

anamnua

(1,307 posts)
25. There is another way of looking at it.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 05:12 PM
Mar 2024

If Trump is nobbled in the legal sphere he could be forced to withdraw his candidacy -- at which point he could be replaced with a Romneyesque type who is more difficult to beat.

BlueKota

(3,157 posts)
30. That's a fair point to consider but given how devoted his followers are to him
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 05:48 PM
Mar 2024

personally I doubt they'd vote for anyone who isn't a Maga extremist like him. Romney is an ass, but not violently psychotic enough for most of them. My guess is they'd still write in Trump or nominate Gym Jordan or worse Don, Jr.

senseandsensibility

(19,918 posts)
34. I agree
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 03:16 PM
Mar 2024

The replace cheato theory is never going to happen even if he is convicted. R's have been signalling that from the beginning.

BlueKota

(3,157 posts)
29. Doesn't he get the money back though if he wins the appeal.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 05:28 PM
Mar 2024

He might not win, but at this point we cannot predict which it will be win or loose for him. Until he actually has to pay out the entire amount with no chance of recovering a dime of it, or ends up behind bars, I reserve the right to believe he is being given special treatment by the court system that others would not be granted.

If he does have to actually pay or actually have to to prison, I will apologize to the courts

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