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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJason Leopold uncovers messages from Trumpist FBI agents against the search of Mar-a-Lago and
the investigation of Trump along with sympathies of 1/6 insurrectionists. It shows what we have all known for awhile but never had the proof. Under a FOIA request Leopold has found various emails etc that show outright hostility to the investigation of Trump.
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Theres no good way to say it, read the email to deputy director Abbate. So Ill just be direct: from my first-hand and second-hand information from conversations since January 6th there is, at best, a sizable percentage of the employee population that felt sympathetic to the group that stormed the Capitol and said it was no different than the BLM protests of last summer," the person wrote a week after the riots.
Very interesting article
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-03-15/trump-documents-raid-at-mar-a-lago-sparked-protest-from-fbi-employees
Edited to take out tracking from the link
OAITW r.2.0
(27,560 posts)Get rid of the Trump enablers that have tried to screw Joe and the Democratic Party/All Biden voters with their anti-democratic agenda. Maybe then, we can start to Make America Great Again.
3Hotdogs
(13,230 posts)melm00se
(5,044 posts)in the ranks various departments, is bad.
urging Biden to clean house in the FBI and DOJ, is good?
Bev54
(11,644 posts)They absolutely must be cleaned out both FBI and DOJ and any other agency. Trump just wants his toadies, he doesn't want competent people doing their jobs, much different scenario.
OAITW r.2.0
(27,560 posts)Rather than the purge you know is coming if Trump gets re-elected (or using Republican states to screw with the vote to help him win). He's got a whole lot of retribution planned for the majority of Americans.
Bev54
(11,644 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(27,560 posts)That was in 2020....this time, on steroids. They cannot win and they are busy writing legal challenges as we speak.
hatrack
(60,452 posts)As opposed to Biden dumping a bunch of Trumpers with federal badges and replacing them with non-ideologically envenomated professionals.
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SergeStorms
(19,265 posts)insurrection, theft and dispersal of top secret documents, assault and battery of law enforcement personnel, just to name a few crimes, is alright as long as it's their cult leader who's ordering it.
We can certainly do without those people in the highest law enforcement institutions in the land.
This false equivalency bullshit pisses me off, too! I don't remember a single BLM protest where law enforcement officers were treated as badly as the J6 officers were. Quite the opposite, the police gleefully attacked protesters.
Yeah, those FBI agents took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America, and if they can't live up to that oath Walmart is always looking for night watchmen. Jerkoffs! 😡
PSPS
(14,058 posts)Bev54
(11,644 posts)WhiteTara
(30,060 posts)You're so right. He needs to be removed.
Kid Berwyn
(17,392 posts)The people the government expects to be honest brokers also sympathize with the NAZI sick fellow with whom they ideologically align.
Doubt Corporate McPravda will make the connection for the People to consider, but Charles McGonigal was heading the FBI's Russia counterespionage desk at the same time he was on Oleg Deripaska's payroll.
Both situations served to advance Trump at a cost to the Constitution and the nation.
OAITW r.2.0
(27,560 posts)niyad
(118,466 posts)ruzzia section, fired (despite a recommendation of demotion and a 60 day suspension only) for daring to cruticizebTRAITOR**. Funny how that went.
Attilatheblond
(3,907 posts)so Putin had Trump try to ruin the stalwart counter intelligence FBI agent.
Strzok was obviously competent, and THAT is what got him removed. A purge under a second Trump administration would be a removal of those who do their jobs well.
A purge under Biden's administration would be a lawful exercise to weed out incompetence, insubordination, and possibly people who pose real threats to the nation.
malaise
(276,257 posts)K % R
slightlv
(3,878 posts)that there was an inordinate amount of *rump backers and influencers in the SDNY. They were intent on making all kinds of trouble for Hillary at the time. But this is just further indication to me as to just how far up and down the rot goes in the FBI. I'm with the person writing above me who said time to clean it out. I'd say "start now" but that would seem too political, on its face... even though I think it's totally warranted.
I worked for government (usually DoD) for nearly all my working life. We were free to have our own political opinions, but they were to be kept out of the workplace. Period. Every government office I ever worked in or visited had the same rules. Once again, we see where "rules" are for the little people... in "little departments." I don't think it's right that these agents were subjected to harassment and threats, but I gotta wonder how much they brought on themselves with their own mouths. Talking out of turn at the bar on Friday and Saturday nights, for example. Letting anger they felt raise their vocal level in a restaurant where who knows who's listening. It still doesn't justify terror threats... but these are THEIR people making threats towards them. Did they ever wonder exactly who they were aligning with? And if they were so stupid as to be taken in by *rump and his lies, I have to wonder about their judgement in law enforcement. Maybe that's not fair... but it's my opinion based on the usual Magat critical thinking levels.
There's a huge difference between changing personnel based only on political party or whether or not they idolize an individual, and cleaning house of troublemakers and those who create an unpleasant work environment for everyone around them. Everything *rump touches, dies. And it sounds like he put a few death knells on the FBI and justice departments. No wonder we're having trouble getting *rump into court! There are probably still people in high enough places that are totally working against us.
And anyone who can't see the difference between Jan 6 and the BLM protests is just being intentionally obtuse, AFAIC. These memos in the article are beyond the pale. If I ever tried to do something like that, I'd be called into a supervisors office and asked to explain and then told to keep my political leanings to myself. Doesn't sound like these people went to *enough* training classes, regardless of the one guy complaining about them.
Is it any wonder people have lost all faith in the law enforcement and judical systems in the country. With people like this, we're hard pressed to mount an effective push back, ourselves.
llmart
(16,214 posts)I know someone who works on a lower level in a field office in West Virginia and she told me plenty about what she would read or overhear or be told about through the office grapevine with regards to how they would use derogatory terms when speaking of Hillary. I knew even back when she was our candidate that this was happening. Then the Comey shit happened and some were surprised, but not me.
DENVERPOPS
(9,750 posts)that we have no idea how deeply the Trump Humpers have infiltrated the ranks at all levels in the DOJ, FBI, Secret Service, National Guards across the nation, reservists, and even the entire military.....
During Jan 6 we saw numerous DC police and Capitol Police stand aside to the insurrectionists, and many others that just gave in, after half heartedly trying to push the insurrectionists back.........
And also it was the Secret Service who ordered Pence into their car to take him to some unknown destiny......
Bev54
(11,644 posts)thinking they were allowing them or helping them but after reading a lot of the messages that CREW got from FOIA it seems a lot of them were told to stand down as they were not going to be able to hold them off, so I am a little less pissed off.
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)But these bigots and traitors wormed their way into the FBI and et al, long before TSF came along. J Edgar rarely investigated the right wing, no matter how violent they were.
And please don't disparage our military that way. If you'd served, you'd know that the military is actually more liberal than most of the alphabet soup federal LEO agencies. I'm not saying they're a bunch of Commies, but they are not nearly as conservative as people think. During TSF's term, the majority of the officer corps disapproved of him. This was something the general public hardly ever saw, because the tabloid media didn't cover it, but the polls that did exist were not in that monster's favour.
DENVERPOPS
(9,750 posts)for the country's sake.................Of course all the military's votes might not even be counted due to the fact that the "NEW" RNC is going to cease allowing absentee voting and mail in votes if they have their way.......
I can only imagine that we will all realize just what these "New" Republicans have in store for us in November. I can only think, with their actions, that they think it is a Slam Dunk for some reason......I wonder what they know that we don't...........
littlemissmartypants
(24,248 posts)republianmushroom
(16,856 posts)DOJ delayed opening a criminal investigation into Trump for Jan 6. insurrection for more than a year
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017838884
Bev54
(11,644 posts)Jeffrey Clark even before Garland was confirmed - That started on Jan 25, 2021. Garland was going after fake electors scheme and subpoenaed Clark's phone and emails in June 2021 and Giuliani and Powell's phones and devices in Sept 2021. He had to go through the courts for over a year and a half just to remove privileges of many of the players to open the way for Smith. It is so disingenuous to keep up this charade that Garland did nothing and even worse to continue propagating it.
Ligyron
(7,831 posts)... changed their tune once the magnitude of the security breach was known?
For instance, I imagine only the most fervent of his Nazi ideologues would be cool with him sharing nuclear codes or info endangering our operatives in hostile nations.
I wonder if they thought it was clever of him to retain Classified and TS records after repeated attempts to secure them and even order others to hide them from the authorities legally seeking their return?
Bev54
(11,644 posts)were watching Newsmax in their offices because even Fox was too left for them.
Skittles
(157,381 posts)that repuke traitor DID NOT COMPLY
but of course, THEY ALL KNOW THAT
get these fucking MAGAts OUT OF THE FBI
lark
(23,852 posts)The documents Bragg requested weren't delivered for many months, not until the eve of the trial - this was not some random mistake but a thought out ploy to help tsf and Russia. Remember the head of the NY FBI was convicted of being a Russian spy and taking over $200 million from the Russian that tsf sent all the "polling data" to. He's the one who restarted the Hillary emails and pushed hard for Comey to announce this to the world. I'm sure it wasn't only the guy at the top of NY FBI but he also had cohorts who actively pushed for no investigation.
Of course, Garland listened to the Russia lovers and didn't start an investigation on time and protect America,.
Bev54
(11,644 posts)requested them and it could simply be that there were other investigations ongoing at the time or it could be they are protecting Barr and his interference in prosecutions or a myriad of other reasons. What is clear is this decision would not likely go to Garland and SDNY seems to celebrate their independence. Let's wait until the hearing on Mar 25th when this will be discussed in court.
Now to your disparaging remarks on Garland, the investigation started even before Garland was appointed or confirmed. Subpoenas for stop the steal and fake electors scheme started before 1/6 committee was formed and several court cases over privilege of one sort or another wound their way through the courts at a time when covid was still ongoing and there was a backlog. Your revisionist history is not helpful.
HandmaidsTaleUntold
(406 posts)BLM didnt storm the capitol and were not involved in a coup. These FBI agents need to take a good long look into their minds and souls and get straight.
Bev54
(11,644 posts)HandmaidsTaleUntold
(406 posts)And now the Orange pos promises a bloodbath if he loses. Wheres Seal Team 6??? And he insinuated he knows of even worse coming. What could that mean? Something Putin will do?
spanone
(137,348 posts)Bev54
(11,644 posts)may never know who they are. It was kind of telling when Biden refused the SS agents assigned to him and chose his own agents.
dchill
(39,940 posts)Well, they at least got THAT right.