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The Democratic Staff of the Committee on Education and the Workforce estimates that one 200-person Wal-Mart store may result in a cost to federal taxpayers of $420,750 per year about $2,103 per employee. Specifically, the low wages result in the following additional public costs being passed along to taxpayers:
$36,000 a year for free and reduced lunches for just 50 qualifying Wal-Mart families.
$42,000 a year for Section 8 housing assistance, assuming 3 percent of the store employees qualify for such assistance, at $6,700 per family.
$125,000 a year for federal tax credits and deductions for low-income families, assuming 50 employees are heads of household with a child and 50 are married with two children.
$100,000 a year for the additional Title I expenses, assuming 50 Wal-Mart families qualify with an average of 2 children.
$108,000 a year for the additional federal health care costs of moving into state childrens health insurance programs (S-CHIP), assuming 30 employees with an average of two children qualify.
$9,750 a year for the additional costs for low income energy assistance.
from http://underthemountainbunker.com/2012/02/25/walmart-costs-taxpayers-1557000000-the-conservative-circle-of-life/
Also see
http://www.mindfully.org/Industry/2004/Wal-Mart-Labor-Record16feb04.htm
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Tikki
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,572 posts)"We are not your Mama, John Boy." and here is the new picture of Walton's Mountain...
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)while many of the people who work for them are struggling to get by. They could all afford to lose a couple billion so their associates can make ends meet.
dotymed
(5,610 posts)subsidize wal-mart employees because their greedy owners are able to get by with paying them shit wages. Actually, we are paying the walton family billion$ to pay people slave wages, just in a round-a-bout way.
The 1% are leeches on society...they get their blood any way they can.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Walmart must be destroyed.
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)I'm thankful I work at a pretty good store, with a decent manager who actually cares about his associates. Many Wal-mart associates aren't so lucky, and certainly the people at the very top, such as the Waltons, Mike Duke, etc. need to be knocked down a peg or two.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)destroyed and replaced with something better.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)instead of some poor Wal-Mart worker, or stock photo actress.
Whovian
(2,866 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)very good also. Maybe a double tile.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)BlueinOhio
(238 posts)Wal-Mart gets $1,000,000.00 per store reimbursement for merchandise losses.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)It seems that $1M per store would be in their own corporate insurance policy, and not involve government at all.
A link to that data will show what a poor citizen WalMart really is.
BlueinOhio
(238 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)If you heard this somewhere that can't be sourced, fine. I just want to use it in arguments on this, and 'every store and a million 'will get me shot down. Some places I post on the net will delete any claims not written as anecdotal, if they are not linked.
mtasselin
(666 posts)This is the truest form of SOCIALISM in the world
pmdsyr32
(29 posts)we need to push our congress to stop this waste of our money
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Hopefully the RepubliCONs will fup even more for 2014.
Dakota Flint
(219 posts)get rid of these greed poisoned obstructionists in both the House and Senate.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Facebook. Tweets. "Here's why to celebrate Small Business Saturday." It's not partisan...it's not "labor propaganda"...it's not fair.
livingonearth
(728 posts)I'm not putting up the sarcasm sign. I know you all know what I mean.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Why are we subsidizing them?
TeamPooka
(24,207 posts)Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)I know several others who have tried to get EBT or other types of government assistance but are told they make too much money, at Wal-mart of all places, yet they are still struggling to make ends meet. Wal-mart really needs to pay their associates a living wage. I've been working for them for quite a while and I do well but I worry about some of my co-workers who are struggling, especially the ones with young children.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)calikid
(584 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I shop at Walmart and have family members working there. It I'd wrong for corporations to pay so low and then encourage their employees to seek government assistance when they make big profits. WalMart, stop living off of the tax payers.
Whovian
(2,866 posts)They have armies of lawyers to exploit every legal loophole for the advancement of profit and their own gain rather than any concern for their employees.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)The biggest corporate Welfare Queen of all time. Dayaaaamm! DU... if we could...we would go to DC and kick some proverbial rear-ends and get this country straightened out in one day. Talk about devil-in-the-details.... right there's some serious details!
Initech
(100,038 posts)If we could get rid of their subsidies we could make a huge dent in the budget.
benld74
(9,901 posts)progressoid
(49,945 posts)luv_mykatz
(441 posts)Thank you for posting this information.
Am forwarding to my facebook page.
George II
(67,782 posts)...Walmart actually conducts TRAINING CLASSES for employees on how to get benefits from the state (which they don't give to their employees)
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)This term that Walmart uses to identify its' employees has always bothered me. If you're an "associate" in a law firm or p.r. firm or newspaper/magazine outlet, or justice or medical office or in sales....you sure as hell ain't making minimum wage with no benefits. An "associate" in any other work place has a say and a stake in the overall business and are traditionally compensated. Walmart workers are either clerks, cashiers, stockers, security, door-greeters or low-level managers, period. Talk about putting lipstick on a pig. Shameful and disgraceful.
K&R
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Calling underpaid employees "associates" is supposed to lend dignity to their jobs. Just another one of the clever semantic games. (like "job creators" that right winger PTB have been using to fool us average suckers. At last, it seems, we're catching on.
Volaris
(10,266 posts)I guess it reads better on a nametag than "corporate's bitch"...and the only reason ANYONE needs a nametag is so the ALWAYS RIGHT customer knows exactly who to try and get fired if you don't go out of your way to be their bootlicker.
valerief
(53,235 posts)banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)Parasite Walmart should not be ANY kind of liability. Nor should any corporation. After all, THEY built it.
mcgarry50
(68 posts)mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)"anyone who wants to work can work, and succeed." The great American lie.. 2 full time minimum wage jobs won't even yeild $2000/month after taxes.. yes, Mittens, you know, taxes! the ones paid by the worthless 47%
Brigid
(17,621 posts)A definite K & R.
IrishAle
(62 posts)We call Walmart - The Local Chinese Trade Embassy here. I've even convinced two of my teabagger ultra conservative brothers to stop trading with them and to support local or at the very least regional retail stores.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)EACH!!!!!!
Something isn't right that the Walton heirs live high on the hog while hundred of thousand s of their employees struggle.
And it's not like people want to work for Walmart. It's not something we put in our high yearbooks as our dream job. But Walmart has destroyed the middle class in order to sell cheap crap made in china to the masses.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,142 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,142 posts)I don't see food stamps or Medicaid mentioned in the study, plus the cost of uninsured emergency room visits or state and county health programs for low income people. If Walmart was struggling I could understand, maybe, but they aren't. They never have been.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)dchill
(38,442 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Milliesmom
(493 posts)I did not spend Thanksgiving evening with my wife and my five children. I spent it, instead, handing out turkey sandwiches to workers in Walmart. And showing my support for one brave soul who walked off the job in protest against exploitation.
Walmart "associates" make an average of just more than $10 an hour. That means that if they manage to get a full 40 hours a week -- and many don't -- they get paid $1,700 a month, before taxes. Somehow, that is supposed to pay for their food, shelter, clothing and medical care, and that of their children. Quite a trick.
In state after state, the largest group of Medicaid recipients is Walmart employees. I'm sure that the same thing is true of food stamp recipients. Each Walmart "associate" costs the taxpayers an average of more than $1,000 in public assistance.
Read more at.........
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-alan-grayson/walmart-black-friday-_b_2185675.html
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)the people
beac
(9,992 posts)never set foot in one.
Thanks for the thread and the links.
rks306
(116 posts)What me cost the government money? Truely the Walmart family could afford to pay their employees better and give them better benefits. If I win the NC lottery $425 million I would not become a republican.
Beartracks
(12,797 posts)And by "amazing" I mean < >amazing</ >
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Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I was making the argument a few days ago that we subsidize the low wages that Walmart pays its employees with our tax dollars and benefits. Now I actually have some numbers and facts to back that up with.
Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't want Walmart employees (or other people in need) to get assistance that they need, but I'd rather see them get paid $12 an hour instead of $8.08 (the average pay a Walmart employee receives) and maybe not need as much help.
The difference between two parents working 40 hours a week at $8 an hour and two parents working that same amount at $12 an hour is $32k a year and $48k a year - almost a livable income (You won't make it too far on $48k a year living outside of NYC).
I don't know what it would mean to the prices of cheap goods that we are accustomed to, but I wonder how much a move to increase minimum wage that drastically would impact our economy.
unhappycamper
(60,364 posts)MichaelMcGuire
(1,684 posts)tomp
(9,512 posts)so how many billions are they making per year, and what would it cost them to eliminate this unnecessary burden on the system?