HOW DARE BEYONCE, to invade their "safe white musical space"!!!

[DemocraticPatriot]

But once again, MAGAts defy logic!


As a 'hard rock purist' in the early 1980s, I mocked the pop-rock artists, whose music I considered to be "below the hard-rock standard"!

...Bands like the "GoGo's' who were clearly oriented towards commercial success, less than 'artistry', as well as all the rest of the 'pop music' of the time (but today I love those those girls-- even if I disparaged them at the time, now it is nostalgia)

Likewise I disparaged groups whom I thought had "softened their sound" in pursuit of commercial success---
STYX was a major target for that personal complaint.... (Mr. Roboto-- what the fuck was that??)

"SELL-OUTS!!" me and my friends called them!


(On a side note, in the 80s, I could never understand anyone who was a musical partisan of hard rock, or a partaker of marijuana,
voting for members of the Republican party--- but I digress)

But Never EVER would I have attacked a band for hardening their sound,
for attempting to JOIN the 'Hard Rock' Genre. Why would I do that??
It would have made no sense from my musical perspective...


So back to Beyonce.... Her foray into 'Country Music' could only broaden and strengthen 'Country' as a musical genre---
broadening its 'base'

They should welcome her! They should be thrilled!


Instead, those MAGAts who like country music represent it as a 'closed group',
where artists of color are "NOT WELCOME" !!!!

"NO IMMIGRANTS!"
"IRISH NOT WELCOME"
"WHITES ONLY"!


Yes, it is 'shocking' at first--- but not at all 'surpising' upon further reflection.....

[TheBlackAdder]

1. Who does she think she is, Darius Rucker? Oh, wait! 🤣

Reminds me of the people who liked to listen to Darius Rucker songs until they found out he was Black.

[DemocraticPatriot]

3. Who the fuck is............. oh, ok

Well, I probably can't identify any 'big country artist' from the past 20 years,
since I don't listen to their radio stations,
only some who came much earlier....

(I had a brief period in my life in the mid-1980s,
when I had to work with someone who was addicted to a country station,
and I had no vote on that matter.... so I would compose obscene alternative lyrics
to the most popular songs, in my own head---

"Don't touch my hard-on, my achey breaking hard-on,
I just don't think he'd understand--
but if you take my hard-on, my achey-breaky hard-on,
he just might blow up and kill this man!"

(actually I think my alternatives were better than that,
but I don't recall exactly, being so long ago)


but your point is well taken!


Johnny Cash was their 'all-time winner', with 'cross-over appeal'....
Not to mention that he had a good sense of social justice---

End of story.

[no_hypocrisy]

2. I don't remember such an uproar about Charley Pride.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_Pride

[DemocraticPatriot]

4. Charley Pride was black??? LOL

I know the name, and vaguely recognize a few of those song titles,
but as may be clear, I am no great fan or student of country music....

I suppose I saw something about him on PBS recently....

I suspect he would have been less popular in the Genre,
at the height of the television age....

In the radio age, it was more difficult to discern the race of singers---
For my own case, until my latter years,
I always thought that Joe Cocker was BLACK!!!
I was much shocked to learn otherwise...

LOLOL

[underpants]

12. Radio and Joe.

A musician I worked with gave me a different perspective on country. He was in a rock band for 25 years. They started as a punk band but he loved country too. Basically the great majority of the most talented musicians were in country music because it was really the only game in town. Yes the urban areas had big band, R&B, etc but for pretty much everywhere else it was country BEFORE the English invasion.

So you are musically inclined and live anywhere outside the I95 corridor north of DC or Chicago or Memphis, The Grand Ole Opry was “appointment” radio. Everyone listened every Saturday night. Mind you these were people born with the talent. The only lessons were from other people so talented in your area.

For instance Conway Twitty. I knew him as this polyester clad giant hairdo guy on Hee Haw. He was a lights out guitar player. He was happy to just play honkie tonks but his wife said HELL NO - you ARE the act. Put your name in it and make all the money. He became a front man usually as singer.


In a Woodstock documentary I saw they told the story of signing Joe Cocker sight unseen. If he came fine if not oh well. When he got on stage in that life altering performance (the movie made him) half the crew backstage had thought he was black and the other half were asking if they put him on stage as a joke. They thought something was “wrong with him”. Several were trying to pull the plug because they thought it was a sick joke.

[malaise]

7. I heard that Charlie hid his color

People did not know he was black 😀😀😀

[retread]

5. Like it has NEVER happened before this!

[malaise]

6. But but but

White people have been literally stealing black music for centuries

Ask Elvis.😀

[snowybirdie]

8. I wonder why

A Charlie Pride or Darius Rucker can become famous in that world but a woman singer can't?

[mopinko]

14. ummmmm

dolly parton, shania twain. i’m not a huge country fan, dont listen to country radio, so i cant rattle off more names than that off the top of my head, but…

eta- taylor swift started out country.

[snowybirdie]

15. I was

focusing on black country singers. Lots of female stars of course. But no African American women. Seems a pattern. The dislike of Kamala Harris and even Nickki Haley.

[mopinko]

19. well, chapel hart is pretty big rn.

[PurgedVoter]

9. How dare they write and sing in a style of music they invented,

before we turned it into delayed ripoffs of whatever was popular ten years ago but with less articulate lyrics and sung with a fake country accent.

[underpants]

10. She can't do anything but improve country music especially NEW country

I’ve always said that country pop is just bad pop rock with a steel guitar. New country is pandering lifestyle crap. See below.

Look, there’s lots of actual country I like including country inspired stuff. I could list artists.

They HATE Beyoncé and their supposed counter force Taylor Swift turned on them. They aren’t shy about showing their true colors anymore, you should see the comments on Fanni Willis on Twitter. It’s really bad.

Anyway, Bo Burnham summed it up perfectly. It’s not art reflecting or observing life, it’s art dictating lifestyle.

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[North Shore Chicago]

18. Yes!

Just visualize these multi millionaires in an old pickup, with dirt on their boots playing with t-shirts and their girl dancing in the cornfield.

Ha!

Went to St. Johns a couple of years ago where we saw Kenny Chesney's mansion. (the most expensive on the island) I must give him props for taking care of his crew during the pandemic however!

[AverageOldGuy]

11. An old black man taught Hank Williams to play the guitar.

At 8-9 years old, Williams attached himself to an old black man, Rufus "Tee-Tot" Payne, a street performer whom Williams followed around town.

And there's Charlie Pride.

But it makes no difference because country music died several decades ago with the invasion of college boys wearing cowboy hats so if Beyonce wants to shake her tits and call it country . . .

[AverageOldGuy]

13. And the next thing you know . . .

. . . there will be Toyotas in NASCAR and pit crews will be fined for fighting.

[underpants]

16. Hey! Hey there buddy, the Daytona 500 is today

They postponed it yesterday due to rain. Who drives in the rain right?

Speaking of weather - the 1979 Daytona 500 and snow. If you know this story you can skip the rest.

In February 1979 a massive snowstorm hit almost all of the east coast. There were only 3 TV stations as you know so it was NASCAR, probably golf, and some movie rerun. Nowhere to go…click on the TV. The largest audience ever watched the race. It was a tight race AND Cale Yarborough and Bobbie Allison got into a fistfight after the race live on national TV. How perfectly American. What was a local specific almost hobby sport became national and sponsors realized exactly who was watching and how brand loyal they were. Boom.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/remembering-the-1979-daytona-500--nascar-s--perfect-storm-141723376.html

[ms liberty]

17. She's from Texas. The broflakes need to have a ten-gallon hat size cup of STFU.

[Hotler]

20. Nazi in Nashville says it all for me. nt

[msfiddlestix]

21. Beyonce featured Rhiannon Giddens (one of my personal favorite artists) on at least one track of her Country CD

Folks who are not into Traditional Roots music wouldn't likely know who Rhiannon Giddens is, but for those of us who are familiar with or deeply involved in this genre at some point had heard Carolina Chocolate Drops years ago, and swept away in awe of her amazing talents vocally, on fiddle and banjo. Her band mates are brilliant too of course.n
Rhiannon's music crosses other genres as well, cuz well she's got it going on imo.

But what's currently happening here is much needed spotlight on traditional Black Music, from m the early days of Black String bands.

the intention is to educate and repatriate the music we associate as originating from white culture. n

I just love playing old time music and get an education as a bonus.

This is one of the tracks Texas Hold 'em. It's gotta groove I dig, and it's vocal arrangements are cool, imo.

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[Wounded Bear]

22. Big reason they hate Taylor Swift is she "deserted" country music for pop...

[Mountainguy]

23. Most mainstream country today

Is canned junk.

But what I've heard of the new Beyonce tracks......are not good either.

Hard pass.