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Celerity

(47,834 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 06:50 AM Feb 2024

Netanyahu rejects international pressure on peace plan, Palestinian state

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/16/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza-palestine/#link-7ZRCO5WL65BP7OJ646II4ZGVRQ

https://archive.is/8QK5j

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday hit back at international pressure regarding a peace deal and underlined his opposition to a Palestinian state, rejecting the latter prospect as a “huge reward” for Hamas after the Oct. 7 attack. In a social media statement, Netanyahu said Israel “outright rejects international dictates regarding a permanent settlement with the Palestinians. Such an arrangement will be reached only through direct negotiations between the parties, without preconditions.”



The Biden administration and a group of its Middle East partners are working on a long-term Israel-Palestinian peace plan that includes a timeline for the creation of a Palestinian state, The Washington Post reported, which could be announced in the next several weeks. Netanyahu added that Israel continued to oppose the unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state, and that doing do “would give a huge reward to unprecedented terrorism and prevent any future peace settlement.”

He made the comments after a call with President Biden, in which the U.S. leader reiterated his position that Israel’s planned military operation in Rafah should not go ahead without a “credible and executable plan” to ensure the safety of civilians there. Israeli officials reacted negatively to news of the plan the United States is working on. Bezalel Smotrich, Israel’s far-right finance minister, wrote on social media in Hebrew that Israel “will never agree to this plan, which says that the Palestinians deserve a prize for the terrible massacre they carried out against us: a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital.”



Itamar Ben Gvir, the far-right Israeli security minister, tweeted: “1,400 are murdered and the world wants to give them a state. Not going to happen!” Former Israeli justice minister Gideon Sa’ar, in a speech in Berlin, warned against what he called a “dangerous plan taking shape for unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state.” The plan will make the conflict “intractable,” Sa’ar said on the social media platform X, formerly Twitter. “The Palestinians will receive recognition in the state without paying the price of compromise.”



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Netanyahu rejects international pressure on peace plan, Palestinian state (Original Post) Celerity Feb 2024 OP
To go against Netanyahu, there would like have to be a collection of no_hypocrisy Feb 2024 #1
Just create the State and stop waiting for bibi's approval ecstatic Feb 2024 #2
The Palestinians and the Arab nations rejected what happened in 1948. former9thward Feb 2024 #7
He is the Drump of the Middle East. multigraincracker Feb 2024 #3
Netanyahu and RW Likud officials can only act tough because radius777 Feb 2024 #4
Fuck bibi... 2naSalit Feb 2024 #6
Israel Has No Right Of Veto Over Declaration Of A Palestinian State, Ma'am The Magistrate Feb 2024 #5

no_hypocrisy

(50,069 posts)
1. To go against Netanyahu, there would like have to be a collection of
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 06:53 AM
Feb 2024

military from several countries in Gaza to establish a sovereign Gaza/Palestinian state. The United Nations doesn't have a standing army/military. The United States would be loathe to do this unilaterally.

ecstatic

(34,604 posts)
2. Just create the State and stop waiting for bibi's approval
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 07:06 AM
Feb 2024

Isn't that exactly what happened in the 1940s? No one was given the option and there wasn't a back and forth. Use that same energy now.

multigraincracker

(34,784 posts)
3. He is the Drump of the Middle East.
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 07:20 AM
Feb 2024

Has to stay in power to keep out of prison. Uses Fundamentalist as his base. Without the Illegal Settlers and religious nuts he is toast. The Unholy Alliance.

radius777

(3,836 posts)
4. Netanyahu and RW Likud officials can only act tough because
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 07:30 AM
Feb 2024

they know the US has their back - that's the fundamental problem here - but western voters (especially youth, PoC, women etc) are waking up and are not going to stand for the status quo position regarding this issue anymore.

No western country should ever support Israel unless they agree to a two state solution, that recognizes the right of Palestinians to also exist.

Both Hamas (1200 killed in 10-7 attack) and IDF are evil (30k killed and counting, including many children). The difference is one is a stateless terror group and the other has the backing of western superpowers, that is now using the terror attack as a pretext for ethnic cleansing.

And for years Netanyahu empowered Hamas:

NPR: 'Everybody got it wrong': How did Israel fail to detect Hamas' planned invasion?
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/02/1210076717/everybody-got-it-wrong-how-did-israel-fail-to-detect-hamas-planned-invasion
MAZZETTI: Sure. This was, in essence, a kind of divide-and-conquer strategy for Netanyahu. But it was a sort of cynical strategy by Netanyahu that was very controversial in the past, and some past ministers of his resigned over it. But it was a sort of way to balance Hamas from - with the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, to sort of allow Netanyahu to say publicly, well, I have no real partners. I've got Hamas and the Palestinian Authority. They're indistinguishable. Hamas wants the eradication of Israel. And so therefore, we can never really have peace with the Palestinians. And so by strengthening Hamas, he sort of put them on the same plane as the Palestinian Authority. And it allowed him, in essence, to sort of slow roll the peace process and sort of make it - kick it down the road so there was never real pressure on him to sit down at the table and talk about a Palestinian state.

2naSalit

(95,111 posts)
6. Fuck bibi...
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 08:42 AM
Feb 2024

That asswipe is getting more desperate to keep his genocidal war going to stay in power and, thus, out of prison.

Fuck that guy and all his enablers and "friends".

We need to reassess how we "support" israel.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
5. Israel Has No Right Of Veto Over Declaration Of A Palestinian State, Ma'am
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 08:42 AM
Feb 2024

The tricky bit will be contriving a state of Palestine in such a way as to avoid any appearance Hamas has gained this by wholesale atrocity. Validating their sadistic spree would establish it as a legitimate usage of war, by the only standard for such: it worked.

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