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Botany

(72,072 posts)
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 12:43 PM Feb 2024

It is time to release the whole un-redacted Muller Report. A.G. Garland why the delay?

The Trump campaign had > 2,500 computer contacts with Vlad Putin’s Alfa Bank’s computer
server and Alfa Bank’s computer server also had 300 + contacts with Betsy DeVoss’ computer
server in W. Michigan too. This put Russia in contact with DeVoss’ brother Blackwater’s Erik
Prince. This happened in 2016 from late winter until October.

America needs to seed the truth about just how deep into American politics and the Trump
Campaign Vlad/Russia were contacted. And Russia is still conducting a cyber war on America
right now. See vaccine and C-19 disinformation.

Trump is owned by Russia as are many of the Republicans who are trying to block support for
our alley Ukraine and just look @ Trump’s giving a 1970s Soviet Union talking point about NATO
Countries not paying their fair share.

Starting in 2014* Russia installing Trump into the White House was part of the biggest crime
in America’s history.

*. Vlad had been working Trump for many years.



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It is time to release the whole un-redacted Muller Report. A.G. Garland why the delay? (Original Post) Botany Feb 2024 OP
That would be political, and its campaign season getagrip_already Feb 2024 #1
The rot runs deep bucolic_frolic Feb 2024 #2
Good point, why the delay? Think. Again. Feb 2024 #3
Well, of course he can't release that Bettie Feb 2024 #4
Well, 2naSalit Feb 2024 #16
Answer to question, Because it will make Garland look political. republianmushroom Feb 2024 #5
And , if, you have noticed he doesn't do anything that makes him look political. gab13by13 Feb 2024 #6
no Skittles Feb 2024 #23
Which makes him calculatingly political. Who starts out determined not to create or infringe on an opposing political... usaf-vet Feb 2024 #13
Yup, an AG in the mold of Obama's: Eric Holder. LiberalLovinLug Feb 2024 #20
couldnt joe release it? mopinko Feb 2024 #7
The infamous statute of limitations must have passed already. Justice matters. Feb 2024 #10
I'm pretty sure President Biden could make that happen bigtree Feb 2024 #8
I really would love to know what the CIA and the NSA Mr. Evil Feb 2024 #9
Here is something most have forgotten about ScratchCat Feb 2024 #15
Wow. You said it! Mr. Evil Feb 2024 #21
Yesterday this should have been done.. mountain grammy Feb 2024 #11
Someone in charge is keeping those details in their pocket redqueen Feb 2024 #12
I'm not sure it would make any difference. progressoid Feb 2024 #14
Putin owns Trump Camaromjr Feb 2024 #17
Because "Swifty" Garland ..... capechacon Feb 2024 #18
My conclusion is that Garland isn't who we thought he was. jalan48 Feb 2024 #19
kick BSdetect Feb 2024 #22

bucolic_frolic

(46,234 posts)
2. The rot runs deep
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 12:56 PM
Feb 2024

If they revealed the truth of Russian money's influence, we might not have a country anymore. Or no quorum in Congress.

Monied interests are often more allied with foreign monied elites than US political interests. Recall how our businessmen and corporations did business with a rising Third Reich.

Bettie

(16,822 posts)
4. Well, of course he can't release that
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 01:03 PM
Feb 2024

it might be viewed as political by Republicans and he has to appease them wherever he can.

2naSalit

(91,427 posts)
16. Well,
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 03:24 PM
Feb 2024

It's probably because most of those who should be charged with crimes against the US are still in office.

republianmushroom

(16,902 posts)
5. Answer to question, Because it will make Garland look political.
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 01:05 PM
Feb 2024

And , if, you have noticed he doesn't do anything that makes him look political.

gab13by13

(24,281 posts)
6. And , if, you have noticed he doesn't do anything that makes him look political.
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 01:30 PM
Feb 2024

And, if, you have noticed he doesn't do anything that makes him look political towards Republicans.

FIFY

usaf-vet

(6,719 posts)
13. Which makes him calculatingly political. Who starts out determined not to create or infringe on an opposing political...
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 03:09 PM
Feb 2024

.....party.

Wake up, people. We have been promised aggressive AGs who will get to the bottom of the latest right-wing outrage.

And from what I have seen, the only time the non-GOP-appointed AGs get to the bottom is ONCE, and that is to see where it is and how to avoid it.

It's like a scuba diver who wants to calculate how much time they can spend on the bottom without a complex decompression on the way up and out. The short version DON'T GO THERE. Stay in safe water.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,345 posts)
20. Yup, an AG in the mold of Obama's: Eric Holder.
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 03:40 PM
Feb 2024

Do as little as possible against any prominent Republican, no matter how serious the crime, so that Fox News doesn't yell at you.

Garland had to be shamed into finally investigating Trumps role in Jan 6th by a Republican, Liz Cheney after his lethargy compelled her and others to hold Jan 6th hearings in the House before it was assimilated by magats.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/06/garland-doj-resisted-investigating-trump-january-6

A.G. Merrick Garland Resisted Investigating Trump’s Connection to January 6: Washington Post

"The Department of Justice delayed plans to investigate Donald Trump and his associates’ links to January 6 and attempts to overturn the 2020 election, according to a bombshell investigative report by The Washington Post.

It took nearly a year after the Capitol attack for a DOJ inquiry to commence, and the FBI only opened its investigation into the fake electors' plot in April 2022."




mopinko

(71,446 posts)
7. couldnt joe release it?
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 01:57 PM
Feb 2024

i’m wondering if the office of wh counsel is gonna do anything about this debacle. they do have the transcripts of his interview.

but yeah, cant the prez declassify anything? go ahead and redact names of those not charged, but…

Justice matters.

(7,382 posts)
10. The infamous statute of limitations must have passed already.
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 02:38 PM
Feb 2024

Naming names would not do anything to them not-redacted except to shame them.

We live in an era where some politicians (Repugs) are in-fact above the law (treason).

bigtree

(89,217 posts)
8. I'm pretty sure President Biden could make that happen
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 02:06 PM
Feb 2024

...if he intended it.

I'm not actually someone who buys the insinuation that Garland holds a different view than the president on this issue - who shows no intention of asking for them.

As far as anything like this is concerned, including the SCs appointed to investigate the president and his son, they serve at the pleasure of Pres. Biden, and the release of the report is ostensibly in his hands, to an even greater degree than his AG.

Hell, I'm old enough to remember when Democrats were hollering at Trump to release it. Now it's this backdoor shit, pretending Garland is some rouge republican blocking what the president should be able to do, if that was his intention.

I must have missed the articles about Pres. Biden calling on his AG to make the report public, or anything like that.

I do remember Kamala Harris before she became VP calling on Barr to release them.

Mr. Evil

(2,961 posts)
9. I really would love to know what the CIA and the NSA
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 02:34 PM
Feb 2024

actually has on TFG. I'd also wonder why, whatever they have, they just sit on it. He is the biggest and clearest danger to the USA. There must be a mountain of shit he's into and been into for at least three decades with Russian crimes and whatnot. I just cannot understand why he's so goddamned protected.

ScratchCat

(2,320 posts)
15. Here is something most have forgotten about
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 03:16 PM
Feb 2024
I really would love to know what the CIA and the NSA actually has on TFG. I'd also wonder why, whatever they have, they just sit on it.


Remember the Ukraine phone call? Counsel for either the NSA or CIA filed a criminal complaint with DOJ and Barr said "it was filed incorrectly" and refused to follow-up on it. What ever happened to that? What was the exact crime the complaint referenced? Why did Garland's DOJ not look into it and open an investigation? Why has this individual never been interviewed in public by any committee?

There must be a mountain of shit he's into and been into for at least three decades with Russian crimes and whatnot. I just cannot understand why he's so goddamned protected.


My theory: CIA/NSA was well aware of what was going on in Trump Tower regarding Russian oligarchs and decided that it was easier to keep tabs on them if they knew where they were and essentially let Trump get away with it all for years because he's one of the "wealthy class" and they never figured he'd really run for and win POTUS. That an Russian money likely can be traced to both (R)'s and (D)'s. There are just not too many potential explanations as to how nobody could have known what was going on. Even Crowdstrike's investigation concluded that there was a trail of money laundering from South Florida to Canada involving Trump properties. I guess that went down DOJ's memory hole too, right?

redqueen

(115,164 posts)
12. Someone in charge is keeping those details in their pocket
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 02:58 PM
Feb 2024

Not sure what they're getting out of it but I hope it's worth it

progressoid

(50,532 posts)
14. I'm not sure it would make any difference.
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 03:11 PM
Feb 2024

Trump's convoluted schemes from nearly a decade ago are lost in today's noise.

Most Americans have no idea what you're even talking about.

Camaromjr

(43 posts)
17. Putin owns Trump
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 03:25 PM
Feb 2024

Deutsche Bank lent Trump ~$400 Million and Trump defaulted on $287M of these loans. Deutsche Bank was a money launderer for Russian funds. Take these two data points and the questions about the over 140 meetings between Trump staffers and Russian assets during the 2016 election and this would seem to be an area for further exploration.

 

capechacon

(91 posts)
18. Because "Swifty" Garland .....
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 03:27 PM
Feb 2024

....hasn't yet finished his humming, hawing and ruminating.

Just what the he!! was Biden thinking when he appointed this dud to his cabinet??

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