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Nanjeanne

(5,440 posts)
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 04:06 PM Jan 2024

Update from Haaretz: Source familiar with cease-fire/hostage release talks: Israel, Hamas reached basic understandings

on most points of the deal

According to a source familiar with the cease-fire/hostage-release negotiations, Israel and Hamas have reached basic agreement on the majority of the deal's terms.

According to the apparent outline, the agreement will last 35 days, during which all Israeli hostages will be released. In exchange, Israel will release Palestinian prisoners and deliver humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip.

The source added that the criteria for the release of prisoners have already been determined, but their identity is still being debated.

According to the source, the only issue that the parties are unable to bridge is whether a complete cease-fire will be declared as a part of the deal, a Hamas demand that Israel refuses.

They added that "there may be other minor changes in the outline, but the main problem that needs to be solved concerns that absolute cease-fire Hamas insists on."


https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-01-25/ty-article-live/qatar-harshly-rebukes-netanyahu-for-allegedly-labeling-it-as-problematic/0000018d-3e9c-d02c-a79f-7f9f6f250000?liveBlogItemId=593807062#593807062]
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Update from Haaretz: Source familiar with cease-fire/hostage release talks: Israel, Hamas reached basic understandings (Original Post) Nanjeanne Jan 2024 OP
Ok, ok. They're getting there. This is good news for Israel, the US and Hamas. brush Jan 2024 #1
OK, this is good. Hostages out, aid in. maxsolomon Jan 2024 #2
Sounds very similar to the framework Israel offered earlier this week that many here dismissed as a "nonstarter" tritsofme Jan 2024 #3
Oh...I wonder how many Palestinian prisoners will be released? LeftInTX Jan 2024 #4
From the TOI LeftInTX Jan 2024 #5
Devoutly To Be Wished, Ma'am The Magistrate Jan 2024 #6
The prisoners Hamas holds are women, children and male civilians TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #7
I wonder if you know how and why Palestinians are detained an imprisoned. AloeVera Jan 2024 #8

brush

(57,771 posts)
1. Ok, ok. They're getting there. This is good news for Israel, the US and Hamas.
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 04:24 PM
Jan 2024

And I'm not saying I care anything about Hamas other than their elimination.

Thanks, Nanjeanne, for posting.

This will help Joe Biden as far as re-election prospects.

maxsolomon

(35,169 posts)
2. OK, this is good. Hostages out, aid in.
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 04:24 PM
Jan 2024

Hamas gets to take credit for the freed West Bank Palestinians.

At the end of 35 days, I'd recommend that they not resume hostilities. They'll have no bargaining chips left.

Hopefully this will shut up the "Genocide Joe" BS from the Extreme Left.

tritsofme

(18,627 posts)
3. Sounds very similar to the framework Israel offered earlier this week that many here dismissed as a "nonstarter"
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 04:25 PM
Jan 2024

Among other nonsense.

LeftInTX

(30,182 posts)
4. Oh...I wonder how many Palestinian prisoners will be released?
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 04:26 PM
Jan 2024

Last I knew, Hamas wouldn't agree to a 2 month cease fire.

In 2011, Israel released over 1,000 prisoner for one hostage. I think it could be dangerous, but that's just my opinion. I don't live there, but I don't like cleaning up their messes.

I know Hamas wants every single Palestinian prisoner released.

If Netanyahu is gonna be extremely generous with prisoner releases, I have no idea why he is opposed to statehood?

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I predict the provisional ruling from the ICJ is not going to be good for Israel tomorrow.

LeftInTX

(30,182 posts)
5. From the TOI
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 04:38 PM
Jan 2024
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hamas-official-says-terror-group-will-abide-by-any-icj-ceasefire-order-if-israel-reciprocates/

Hamas says that if the International Court of Justice issues an injunction calling for a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip, it will abide by it as long as Israel reciprocates.

Hamas will release all the Israeli hostages in Gaza if Israel releases all Palestinian prisoners, senior Hamas official Osama Hamdan claims at a news conference in Beirut.
 

TexasDem69

(2,317 posts)
7. The prisoners Hamas holds are women, children and male civilians
Thu Jan 25, 2024, 07:00 PM
Jan 2024

Seized during a bloodbath that involved rape, sexual mutilation, child murders, and killing hundreds of civilians at a concert.

The prisoners Israel holds are terrorists, murderers and criminals.

It’s good that Israel is working towards the release of these individuals, but let’s be clear about the status of the two sets of prisoners.

AloeVera

(1,966 posts)
8. I wonder if you know how and why Palestinians are detained an imprisoned.
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 12:09 AM
Jan 2024

The prisoners Israel holds are men, women and children, about 2,000 of whom are there simply on suspicion of committing an offense sometime in the future - without charge, disclosed evidence or trial. Some languishing for months or even years with little or no contact with family or their own lawyers. In addition, most of them are there for having shown the audacity to protest their occupation by raising their voices in the political arena, the media or even social media or for attending a political gathering or raising their flag. In other words, exercising what in other democracies would be considered their basic civil rights of free expression, free assembly and free association. Instead, these rights in Israel are criminalized as "incitement to terrorism".

Once charged or detained, they face insurmountable odds against a fair trial with due process. The military courts have a boast-worthy 99.7% conviction rate and practices and military laws that make a guilty sentence virtually guaranteed.

No, they are not all terrorists, murderers and criminals. I venture to say that the large majority did not deserve their imprisonment and in any other democracy would not have been detained let alone convicted. But they live under occupation and that is why they are where they are.

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