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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am SICK of this GAZA War....
YES, the HAMAS Fighters (or some of them) have proven themselves to be ANIMALS, and Deserve NO MERCY....
YES, they hide themselves underneath and among innocent civilians as"HUMAN SHIELDS"....
YES, Israel is quite justified in their desire to eliminate them....
but they are NOT justified in attempting to eliminate Hamas with no regard
for civilian casualties in Gaza---- much less for completely DESTROYING Gaza,
for the sake of killing a few Hamas fighters....
"Two wrongs don't make a Right"....
Throughout my life, I have been sympathetic to Israel,
as I was raised as somewhat 'evangelical'.... and well aware of the history of World War II...
YES, the HAMAS fighters acted like 'animals' in their October 7 attack on Israel....
That does NOT justify what the Israeli military has been doing in Gaza ever since....
I expect better from the Israelis...
I have never thought of them as 'animals',
but the results don't leave much to choose between them..... especially the numbers....
As I have said before, a Palestinian baby who has been killed by a 2000 pound bomb
dropped by Israel on Gaza, is "just as dead" as any Israeli
who was killed or tortured by the Hamas attack on October 7th....
The thing is, I expect better of Israel, than I do from Hamas or their ilk.......
So I am tired of hearing of the atrocities that Hamas committed on October 7th----
(as if those somehow justify killing 20 times the number in Gaza, who are mostly civilians anyway....)
STOP THE BOMBING!!!!!
Kill Hamas with your ground troops, ISRAEL !!!!
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EX500rider
(11,933 posts)I wouldn't say "with no regard" or they wouldn't have done this:
The IDF warned Gazan civilians for several weeks before the launch of its major ground operation in October to evacuate themselves from northern Gaza, and placed 70,000 phone calls, sent 13 million text messages, left 14 million voice messages, and dropped 7 million leaflets urging civilians to evacuate temporarily for their safety and informing them about humanitarian pauses and precise evacuation routes.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-confirms-itll-defend-itself-from-gaza-genocide-claims-in-the-hague-next-week/
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)just before bombing the fuck out of them....
It would appear that they also directed those civilians to retreat to areas
where they also bombed the fuck out of them.....
Those people have nowhere to run to..... the Israelis are bombing the fuck out of the entire Gaza strip....
even "refugee camps"....
msongs
(71,790 posts)EX500rider
(11,933 posts)Cause I don't think it is. YMMV
Did the US military "murder" all the dead civilians in WWII, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea etc?
EX500rider
(11,933 posts)Or do you mean they bombed part of Gaza city that is 75 years old and full of 3 story concrete buildings and called a "refugee camp" because the residents great-grandparents came from 40+- miles away in another part of Palestine 75 years ago?
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)pffffft
GuppyGal
(1,748 posts)
Cha
(312,971 posts)that Israel Offered a humanitarian Ceasefire. HAMAS has Shot Palestinians who tried to leave and get aid.
So Fuck HAMAS and all those who are Supporting their Fucking Sadistic "By any means necessary" signs.. "From the River to the Sea".. Fuck those ASSholes. 
The signs say "By any means Necesary" but then they don't like it When Israel is Eliminating HAMAS "BY Any Means Necessary".
Cha
(312,971 posts)and HAMAS said NO.. but that is Ignored by those calling for a Ceasefire.
Talk to HAMAS about the Ceasefire! Those Violent Anti Semitic Protesters are just a Distraction FOR HAMAS
Eko
(9,441 posts)
nocoincidences
(2,407 posts)Gaza could have been turned to glass on October 8.
Israel has shown restraint but still wants to send a message.
Hamas is poking a pissed off bear with nuclear weapons.
Gaza is not scorched earth. That is restraint.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)I suppose no one cares about that..... PRESUMING that they CAN survive....
"shown restraint" ??
yeah, I suppose the U.S. military "showed restraint",
when we didn't drop poison gas on 25 Japanese cities (which was our war plan),
and instead only dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki....
(Yes, the Japanese were lucky in that instance, in terms of the civilian casualties....)
nocoincidences
(2,407 posts)FAFO
It's not complicated.
Hamas knows what it set off. It was deliberate.
Everyone who doesn't understand the intentions and the cause and effect seem to be mystified.
Not rocket science, if you are familiar with how propaganda works.
I know you hate to hear this, but Nazi Germany is a great teacher.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)even though almost all the terrorists were Saudi Arabian...
We killed a fucking lot of Iraqi civilians in that war, and a hell of a lot of civilians in Vietnam, Germany and Japan---
and I think it was extremely immoral in each case...
Yeah, Ok, I understand you. "not rocket science"
Nazi Germany ???
Yes, they were a 'great teacher' in some respect---
---but a 'great teacher' which The State of Israel
should have been better than to have taken under advisement
nocoincidences
(2,407 posts)Israel.....Palestine!!
Propaganda...
That is what we are talking about.
Focus.
EX500rider
(11,933 posts)Actually it wasn't our war plan, that was Operation Downfall.
The chemical use plan was drawn up by the U.S. Army’s Chemical Warfare Service, they would have lots of plans for chemical use, but none were approved for use.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)Glad it didn't happen...
leftstreet
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Skittles
(165,955 posts)UGH
Crowman2009
(3,173 posts)I guess some dead Israeli hostages and thousands of dead Palestinians need to make this possible? Just like the right wing in america, the Likud party needs dead bodies in order to reap the profits.
