Michigan Muslim leaders say they will not vote for Biden -CBS Detroit

[DemocraticPatriot]

(CBS DETROIT) - In light of the conflict in Gaza, a grassroots movement said it's mobilizing Muslim voters against voting to re-elect President Joe Biden.

Dozens of protestors held a news conference outside the FBI building in downtown Detroit to call on other Muslims and allies to abandon the democratic party.

"Gaza is a graveyard for children, and Biden continues to reject a ceasefire," said Huwaida Arraf, a Palestinian Christian who lives in Metro Detroit.

Arraf said Biden should've done more to force a ceasefire, and because of that, innocent civilians continue to be killed in Gaza.

Read more:
https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/michigan-muslim-leaders-urge-not-to-vote-for-biden/


Well, if this isn't cutting off your nose to spite your face, I'm not sure what is....
The same guy said he expects this will cause Biden to lose the election. If Trump is thereby elected, they will have helped to elect a genuine Muslim hater back into the White House. How will THAT help Muslims?

Frankly, if large numbers of Muslims actually do this, and with-hold their votes from President Biden, resulting in a second Trump term and all the darkness that promises to bring--- then I will care much less about whatever happens to American muslims afterwards, than I do now... They would have made their own bed.

This would be the equivalent of African-Americans with-holding their votes from Joe Biden, if the opposing candidate was a KKK member... pretty damned stupid, in other words.

[kwolf68]

1. Genius

So vote for the Republican who probably would push for pure Holy War against your entire religion. What a dope.

[Ocelot II]

2. So they'd vote for TFG and his Muslim ban?

[DemocraticPatriot]

3. They are not saying they would vote for Trump--- just not vote for Biden.

[Happy Hoosier]

4. Not much difference...

I hope they enjoy life under Fascism.

[EllieBC]

5. It's really the same thing.

In a 2 party system at least.

[Aristus]

9. If they don't vote for Biden, they get Trump.

And Trump's Muslim ban.

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face...

[Coventina]

14. Same difference.

[JohnSJ]

16. In this election, and based on the polls, anyone not voting for Biden is voting for trump, and regardless of how they

frame it, that’s a fact

[W_HAMILTON]

33. Yep. If you aren't voting for Biden, you are supporting Trump -- PERIOD.

We shouldn't be afraid to frame it as simply as that. Don't let them obfuscate, don't let them equivocate -- fuck that. We saw where that got us in 2016.

IF YOU ARENT VOTING FOR BIDEN IN 2024, YOU ARE SUPPORTING TRUMP.

[LakeArenal]

6. Can't account for people who vote against their best interests.

[Deep State Witch]

7. So, they're going to vote for the guy

Who banned all Muslims from entering the US?

I appreciate their position. Non-combatants are dying. Three things, though: 1) Biden can talk cease-fire until he's blue in the face, but he doesn't control Israel. Netanyahu does. 2) Biden has repeatedly called for pauses to get aid into Gaza and people out. Netanyahu gave him the finger. 3) Even if there is a cease-fire, will Hamas honor it? I mean, they're firing on their own people who are fleeing south.

[Picaro]

8. So, they want TFG?

That's a genius move. Help elect the guy that started his first campaign off with calling for a Muslim ban.

I'm of the opinion they'll get over this by the time the election rolls around.

[DemocraticPatriot]

15. I sure hope you're right--- because the number of Muslims in Michigan

is much larger than Biden's margin of victory in 2020...

[Maru Kitteh]

10. Fuck around and find out is a strategy I guess.

Because Trump's policies towards Muslims and largely Islamic populations are so very admirable.

[Traildogbob]

11. Right

While if they do so, trump and Lindsay will follow through with making a parking lot of the Muslim world. They Said it out loud. Glass it over.
White American MAGA men and women are not alone in stupid. And religion feeds it all.

[Retrograde]

12. Last I checked, Biden is not in charge of Israel or Gaza

How can he "reject a cease-fire" if he has no actual authority in the area?

[GreenWave]

21. Indeed. He is even trying to get a cease fire.

[betsuni]

22. That's my question, too. What are they even talking about.

[FloridaBlues]

31. I was just going to say this. Biden can only do so much over another country military operations

At least they are doing the 4 hours cease fire as US wants.

[LeftInTX]

48. UN Security Council - The only part of the UN that really matters.

Only five countries can veto any resolution: US, Russia, UK, China and France. Allied victors of WWII. If one country vetos, it throws away any resolution.

They did this yesterday (Fox was the first link that popped up on my search), but it shows what the Security Council can very quickly accomplish. https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-suspends-withdrawal-african-union-troops-terror-ravaged-somalia

Anything to do with Israel or Hamas got vetoed...Again https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/un-security-council-to-meet-again-on-friday-to-deliberate-israel-hamas-war/

[Coventina]

13. So their preference is Donald "Muslim Ban" Trump?!?!?!?!?

Idiots.

[doc03]

17. So what will they do vote for the party that wants to

level Gaza?

[Turbineguy]

18. Cuz trump loves you more.

[Cha]

51. Rec

[Hassler]

19. Then start packing. When Chump returns they'll be deported

He's already said so.

[NNguyenMD]

20. I imagine quite of few of them have family members in the Middle East...

who may need visas to come to the US in the future. Good luck with that under Trump, which is effectively the outcome when this block of voters votes trump or third party. Or maybe not at all

[Jrose]

23. The Biden campaign must repeatedly show via tv ads, online and ...

make sure Biden stresses at rallies and debates, that DjT has voiced his intention to enforce a widespread Muslim ban if he'd be reelected as president.
Show DjT shouting this promise at rallies and reiterate the ban he proposed when he first became president.

[LeftInTX]

53. They'll vote for Jill Stein, not Trump

[keithbvadu2]

24. Don't worry, Arraf. Trump will back you... up against the wall.

[lees1975]

25. So, they'll help elect Trump who has sworn to deport them all.

That's what Republican maga trumpies are talking about, not only expelling Palestinian immigrants, but expelling all Muslims.

So yeah, go ahead, vote for that.

[Freethinker65]

26. Muslim leaders trying to exert political pressure to end the senseless killing of innocent Muslims is not unexpected.

While I wish the same leaders would publicly denounce Hamas at every opportunity, I do understand that as leaders they will use whatever means of influence they feel they have to defend the lives of those they lead.

I also believe if the US Presidential race comes down to Biden or Trump, as much as they are currently disappointed in Biden, they will vote for Biden.

[bahboo]

27. agreed....election is a long way off....

[sakabatou]

28. So they'd rather vote Republican or third party?

Do they really think Republicans would stop aid to Israel? Do they really think Republicans actually want peace in the area?

Republicans don't give a fuck! I'm sure some actually want the conflict to escalate!

I'm pretty damn sure Biden would love a peace agreement, or at the very least, a cease fire. But guess what? BIDEN IS NOT IN CHARGE OF ISRAEL.

[Disaffected]

29. These protestors seem to have

about the same capabilities for logical thinking as Trump supporters i.e. little to none.

[Hekate]

30. A vote against Biden is a vote for Trump. Sorry, but that's the reality. And Trump was the guy who

…slammed down a Muslim Ban so abruptly that people got stranded at US airports without notice.

Now Trump and his Trumpistas are going on about deporting all Muslims and Palestinians from the US, born here or not.

I am sorry for their pain and anger — but for gods’ sake, I hope someone can talk some sense into these folks.

[JI7]

32. They were already not going to vote for him becsuse they oppose

women's rights.

[MistakenLamb]

43. Or LGBT rights

[D_Master81]

34. So who do you want?

Trump? The guy that was a big Bibi guy and moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem and said that’s Israel’s capital?

[vercetti2021]

35. As stupid is as stupid does

Not voting for President Biden is literally giving your vote to Trump who said he will once again ban Muslims and also the party of nazi's said they would literally kick out all Palestinian people. But yes, go ahead and be fucking stupid and shoot yourselves in the balls and foot at the same time.

[LiberalFighter]

36. Do they want Biden to stop trying to get Benjamin Netanyahu to pause attacks?

[Prairie Gates]

37. They feel that their interests are being ignored and they're going to exact a price for it

That's politics. There's a lot of "Where else ya gonna go, dummies?" in this thread and not enough "How can we reaffirm this coalition?"

[LonePirate]

38. Religion continues to be the most heinous of all human constructs

The extremists of one religion want to exterminate the extremists of another religion who just happen to feel the same way about them. There is no solution to that situation.

[Cha]

39. I read MI Muslins didn't vote for Governor

Whitmer either bc of LGBTQ. They don’t support them, of course.


I’ll look for it.

[DemocraticPatriot]

40. I never heard about that, and I live here...

Whitmer didn't need them in '22, but next year is another story...

[Cha]

44. I'll find the tweet when

I get home..

[Cha]

55. Here's the tweet.. what gets me is Muslims

would rather go Fascist than support Whitmer bc of LGBTQ.

Link to tweet

And, Pres Biden supports then too..So why would they vote for him in the first place with their Homophobia?

[vercetti2021]

41. I can believe it

Besides the Jewish vote in MI will carry Biden the state I 100% believe that

[Cha]

45. I Hope So.. no

One should be held to their gaslit demands.

Equal Rights for All

[MistakenLamb]

42. Imran Salha is an anti-LGBTQ bigot who calls for the eradication of Israel and was already telling Muslims to not vote

Democratic. Fuck him. Democrats were going to lose votes for their stance on LGBTQ issues from this demo more than Israel, which our policy has remained the same for several election cycles.

[Cha]

46. Thanks for that.... Rec

[NowISeetheLight]

47. Reddits

This is /LeopardsAteMyFace material on Reddit.

[Takket]

49. "Dozens of protestors"

There are about 200,000 Muslims in the metro detroit area, for perspective.

i expect the USA will eventually have a part in brokering some sort of cease-fire here, and most of these misguided persons will change their minds.

[LiberalFighter]

50. I'm wondering who they voted for in 2020?

And why do they think Biden can dictate to Israel what to do?

Maybe if they had access to Hamas leaders they should talk to them.

[dflprincess]

52. Local Muslim leaders in Minnesota are making the same threats nt

[Ferrets are Cool]

54. I can't even...

[Abolishinist]

56. I've never understood why anyone would think

that those whose religious beliefs are so against those on the left side of the aisle would change their views based on their being allowed citizenship. Does anyone really believe they would, for example, be in favor of the LGBTQ community?