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The 'perfect match' liver was rejected by the surgeons. Ms.Toad reminded me of the possibility last night. I knew this, too, after my brother-in-law's transplant experience--a perfect match (tissue match) does not equate to the quality or 'perfect match' aspects of the individual organ. The final determination was made by the baby girl's lead surgeon. We were all caught up in the elation of the moment but failed to ask the pertinent question.
Live and learn.
Disappointing? Yes. My son and his wife texted around 3 am thoroughly bummed out.
This surgery will happen; we just need to wait a bit longer.
Thanks for all the kind words and support.
I'll keep the DU family updated.
sheshe2
(86,376 posts)❤️❤️❤️
peggysue2
(11,354 posts)The roller-coaster ride continues!
4lbs
(7,254 posts)There can be problems with the organ during retrieval, and that "perfect match" goes away.
The organ might be damaged or become damaged and unviable when still in the host
The recipient may still reject the organ even after implantation and anti-rejection drugs are administered.
peggysue2
(11,354 posts)My brother-in-law had the same experience with his lung transplant. Guess I buried that detail in all the excitement.
But you're right. The perfect match is only perfect once the surgeon gives the final nod. We don't know the 'why' in this instance but the surgeon was not satisfied.
And so . . . we await the next call.
Bummer.
niyad
(118,447 posts)you need.
peggysue2
(11,354 posts)I've been leaning pretty hard. On everyone. Which is not my habit but this child just rips my heart.
Appreciate it.
Thunderbeast
(3,519 posts)calimary
(83,632 posts)I want to be picked clean. Take everything, anything that might be useful, from corneas to liver and bone fragments and everything in between.
niyad
(118,447 posts)and add it to the garden.
peggysue2
(11,354 posts)I don't think most people realize how vital and/or scarce transplant organs truly are. Until you or a family member is holding on for dear life waiting for that 'perfect' organ, a do or die moment.
Ms. Toad
(35,253 posts)So even if you are ineligible to donate blood because you are HIV+, for example, you may still be able to donate organs to someone who is HIV+. (Just one example).
So sign up - and let them decide at the time you are done with your organs whether they could give someone else a bit more life, or eyesight.
I am a recipient of a common, but less well known, organ. I have a very aggressive cancer. That cancer required creating a 5" diameter hole in my right forearm - which could not be permanently closed up until the pathology was clear. That process takes two weeks (sometimes more). In that period, I recieved a graft from a person who allowed their skin to be used for transplants. That allowed me to be safe, without creating the trauma of two personal grafts. (My final graft is from my thigh - a very painful process. I am very grateful I did not need to go through that process twice.)
So please consider donating!
Hekate
(93,857 posts)
says Donor. I really dont know what theyll find thats useable once I shuffle off this mortal coil, but I surely wont need it any more, and would be pleased if someones life could be saved.
niyad
(118,447 posts)Fla Dem
(25,354 posts)But stay positive. It WILL happen!!!
peggysue2
(11,354 posts)The surgery will happen. We just need to hold on tight.
Thanks for the note!
Karadeniz
(23,169 posts)peggysue2
(11,354 posts)That a few other choice expletives.
LiberalFighter
(53,263 posts)peggysue2
(11,354 posts)Lots of crying mixed with hope and prayers, support from family and friends.
But it's hard and taking a toll. My son is a nervous wreck, neither eating nor sleeping well, complaining he can't concentrate at work. My daughter-in-law has moments when she literally falls apart. But in public and anytime round the baby girl, she pulls it together, a model of patience and calm.
They all need a break. It was nice, relaxing on vacation. We returned last weekend, seven days in Ocean City, NJ with eight family members. Perfect weather, good memories. That helped.
We're back inside the storm at the moment trying desperately to draw on those seaside reserves.
Thanks for the note!
LetMyPeopleVote
(152,784 posts)Your family will be in my prayers
peggysue2
(11,354 posts)The surgery will happen eventually. Sooner rather than later would be nice.
We just need to calm ourselves and concentrate on the patience factor.
Evolve Dammit
(18,171 posts)peggysue2
(11,354 posts)collecting those positive vibes.
Thanks, Evolve.
Evolve Dammit
(18,171 posts)pandr32
(12,010 posts)Here's a hug and some sincere wishes for things to go well soon.
peggysue2
(11,354 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(151,504 posts)Sending hugs and all my best vibes for you, your precious granddaughter and the whole family, my dear peggysue2.
And I just contributed to your GoFundMe!
peggysue2
(11,354 posts)The DU family has been amazingly generous in support, good wishes and donations to the baby girl's GoFundMe appeal. Please know all of this is deeply appreciated.
My son threw me a text earlier; they're back in Philly. I asked how Cassandra was doing. She slept through the whole thing. Which is a good thing. For my son and his wife, they feel as if they've been run through a wringer several times over. The doctors told them to think of this as a good test run.
LOL.
Not sure what my son's reaction was to the comment but I can imagine what he'd say uncensored.
We'll get there.
milestogo
(17,133 posts)He got called 5 times before he actually went to surgery for the transplant. It took him an hour to tell the story. But he finally got the liver and he's doing well.
Cassandra will get what she needs sooner or later.
peggysue2
(11,354 posts)Yes, I agree: The Warrior Princess will get what she needs, eventually. Fortunately, she's young enough not to be affected by fear and/or anguish. That's left to her parents and extended family.
It will work itself out.
Thanks for the note, milestogo.
milestogo
(17,133 posts)but the stakes are so high it really becomes an emotional roller coaster.
He was also trying to figure out where his liver came from - couldn't stop thinking about it. He was already planning what to say to thank the family.
Try not to worry too much. Its a lifesaving procedure, and as frustrating as the waits are, you know that they are committed to doing a successful transplant that will save her life and give her life for years to come.
Cha
(303,559 posts)Best Wishes for Cassandra to receive the head surgeon's approval of her perfect match. 🤷?♀️💕
peggysue2
(11,354 posts)The reversal was disappointing but the wait continues until that 'perfect match' truly arrives.
Ms. Toad
(35,253 posts)but it will.
For others who haven't been through this:
The first stage of matching is a tissue match. Often two (or more) potential recipients are called to the hospital - one designated primary, but a back-up or two may get called as well based on the tissue match.
Once the liver is removed from the donor they have to check it for quality, disease, etc. If the liver is OK, the transplant is a go.
But it may be not OK for a variety of reasons. Depending on why it isn't OK, even if it doesn't work for the primary recipient (size, HIV+, etc.), it may work for the back-up recipient (e.g. a person with HIV can receive a liver from an HIV donor, even though it wouldn't be suitable for the general population). Or there may be conditions that make it not suitable for anyone.
Probably half of the liver recipients I know don't get a new liver on the first run to the hospital.