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elleng

(130,864 posts)
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:51 PM Nov 2012

Christie Reverses Stand on Tax Increases After Storm.

Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican who has pushed aggressively for cutting and capping taxes in New Jersey during his three years in office, said Tuesday that people who lived in towns destroyed by Hurricane Sandy were likely to pay higher taxes to help rebuild.

“It’s got to be paid for,” he said. “There’s no magic money tree.”

In a 40-minute news conference in Trenton, Mr. Christie said he expected the federal government to do as much as it had done for victims of Hurricane Katrina on the Gulf Coast to help rebuild New Jersey. And he said that municipalities would be allowed to raise property taxes more than the 2 percent limit that he signed into law in 2010 to cover costs brought on by the storm.

“No one’s ever happy with higher taxes, but the fact is, what annoys people more than anything else is waste,” he said. “As long as they know that the money’s being spent in a way that’s helping to bring their town back to life, I think people will understand it’s got to be done.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/nyregion/chris-christie-reverses-stand-on-tax-hikes-after-storm.html?hp

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Christie Reverses Stand on Tax Increases After Storm. (Original Post) elleng Nov 2012 OP
Uh oh if he keeps this up... Kalidurga Nov 2012 #1
How about we welcome him with open arms? CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #3
+1 n/t Agschmid Nov 2012 #13
Hey could play one well enough Exen Trik Nov 2012 #18
But that's most politicians Flatpicker Nov 2012 #30
My dear Peggy! Bake Nov 2012 #24
One thing I will give that man... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #32
Considering he still supported Romney? I'll pass. cstanleytech Nov 2012 #34
nobody will make fun of his inability to put the Quarter Pounders down? snooper2 Nov 2012 #5
Another DINO? I think the GOP needs more moderates, not fewer. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #19
think the storm during him into a Moderate PatrynXX Nov 2012 #25
I'd rather he spearhead reform in the GOP Scootaloo Nov 2012 #26
Based on what property value? Barack_America Nov 2012 #2
How about the land developers cough up some money, since it was stupid to build so close to water .. Tx4obama Nov 2012 #4
how about big shot Mothdust Nov 2012 #6
he can donate $5 million.....or what about Mitt...he has some extra time on his hands ceejdre82 Nov 2012 #10
True and he has experience shoveling whistler162 Nov 2012 #21
and cleaning a football stadium...did you see when he said that, comparing Sandy's aftermath to ceejdre82 Nov 2012 #36
It wasn't stupid a hundred years ago, when much of the shore was first developed. pnwmom Nov 2012 #23
It seems, on the surface, like Christy may be softening up a bit on the iemitsu Nov 2012 #7
Republicans seem to only see things when it happens, these people are the moderates JI7 Nov 2012 #8
Reality hit Christie in the ass on October 29th. Major Hogwash Nov 2012 #9
Yep. I love how he has called out Gulf State aid twice. Wonder whether Jindal still like Christie? n bluestate10 Nov 2012 #12
Da! John2 Nov 2012 #11
Bye Bye Norquist and his pledge sheshe2 Nov 2012 #14
SURE HOPE SO, she. elleng Nov 2012 #15
We can only hope! sheshe2 Nov 2012 #16
Rachel Maddow said today that the number of GOP Congressmembers who signed the 4lbs Nov 2012 #35
didn't he sign with grover? Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #17
The entire GOP front is collapsing alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #20
Maybe Christie should address Congressional Republicans bucolic_frolic Nov 2012 #22
hey I'm starting to like this guy veganlush Nov 2012 #27
Grovers not donco Nov 2012 #28
It appears as if christi is going to run for prez under Obama's platform. lol nt Javaman Nov 2012 #29
Just proves that Reality has a Liberal bias. Flatpicker Nov 2012 #31
Is there an over/under line as to when Christie begins to act like his old self? benld74 Nov 2012 #33

Exen Trik

(103 posts)
18. Hey could play one well enough
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:36 AM
Nov 2012

And he'd side with us to further his ambitions, but he'd never be worthy of ours or anyones trust.

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
30. But that's most politicians
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:01 PM
Nov 2012

Through out history.

As long as he votes for our issues, I'd say take him in.

He's already a better Dem than Lieberman was.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
24. My dear Peggy!
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:33 PM
Nov 2012

Christie's still got a long way to go before becoming a D, but who knows? He might get there!



Bake

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
32. One thing I will give that man...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:13 PM
Nov 2012

is that he speaks his mind. I may disagree with him sometime, but I can respect a man who "tells it like it is" and is wiling to evolve.

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
34. Considering he still supported Romney? I'll pass.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:36 AM
Nov 2012

However I wouldnt object to Obama nominating him for the position of Ambassador to Germany, France or Japan.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
19. Another DINO? I think the GOP needs more moderates, not fewer.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:47 AM
Nov 2012

The whole problem at this point is that almost all the moderate conservatives have left the GOP. Either they've become Democrats (pulling the party to the right, which is another problem) or they've become independents. Either way, moderates jumping ship is exactly why the GOP is so extreme now.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
25. think the storm during him into a Moderate
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:35 PM
Nov 2012

D no. R no. Moderate yes. which is where the Republicans (Reagan) used to be.

Nothing to it. When one faces such a thing. It may wake one up. without Revenue the Rich go bankrupt.

Course whats always misunderstood on Rich is shopping. Love going to Dollar General and finding BMW's usually current models in the parking lot. Yeah thats how they save money. They don't do Donald Trump . Thats the normal Rich. The VIP Rich not so much.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
26. I'd rather he spearhead reform in the GOP
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:39 PM
Nov 2012

I like what he's doing... just so long as he's doing it over there.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
4. How about the land developers cough up some money, since it was stupid to build so close to water ..
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:58 PM
Nov 2012

... in the first place.



ceejdre82

(183 posts)
36. and cleaning a football stadium...did you see when he said that, comparing Sandy's aftermath to
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:17 PM
Nov 2012

cleaning a football stadium after a game!

pnwmom

(108,975 posts)
23. It wasn't stupid a hundred years ago, when much of the shore was first developed.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:27 PM
Nov 2012

Environmental science didn't exist as a field then and climate change wasn't on the horizon.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
7. It seems, on the surface, like Christy may be softening up a bit on the
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:08 AM
Nov 2012

ultra-conservative approach toward governance but if you read closely his tone suggests otherwise, "No one’s ever happy with higher taxes, but the fact is, what annoys people more than anything else is waste,” he said. “As long as they know that the money’s being spent in a way that’s helping to bring their town back to life, I think people will understand it’s got to be done.” The implication is that when he sees a need for higher taxes "people will understand" but when a democrat sees a need for higher taxes he/she is advocating for waste.
He knows that government needs revenue but he, like other republican authoritarians, is sure that only he, or others who share his world view, can make responsible public policy.
What he is demonstrating however, is that he is a human being, who wants good things for his community and who is willing to be flexible in his governance to promote that goal.
That is not such a bad reputation for a republican governor.

JI7

(89,246 posts)
8. Republicans seem to only see things when it happens, these people are the moderates
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:08 AM
Nov 2012

and then there are the others which probably make up the majority of republicans which is that what happened is because of the gays , godless country, socialism etc.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
9. Reality hit Christie in the ass on October 29th.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:09 AM
Nov 2012

No more posturing, no more bullshitting, no more Jersey shore.

Yeah, revenues are going to have to go way up in order to rebuild.
And Democrats call those revenues, "taxes".

Get used to it.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
11. Da!
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:28 AM
Nov 2012

Go tell your buddies in the GOP that, this country doesn't run on air. So Christie believes in Big Government now. The poverty rate would go up in New Jersey if they got their way. Northern Republicans use to didn't side with State's Rights Politicians in the South. They just hijacked your Party and called themselves Republicans. Now you got people like Todd Akins, Mitch McConnell and Newt Ginrich. These are Strom Thurmond and Jessie Helm's politicians. You add in Gary Bower,Pat Robertson and Mike Huckabee what do you have. Then you add Rush Limbaugh ( the Republican's Archie Bunker).

sheshe2

(83,731 posts)
14. Bye Bye Norquist and his pledge
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:13 AM
Nov 2012

Hello happiness!

Are they finally learning something! Please tell me they are.

elleng

(130,864 posts)
15. SURE HOPE SO, she.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:15 AM
Nov 2012

Lots of opportunities for 'them' to learn a thing or two, and seems as if some have done so.

4lbs

(6,855 posts)
35. Rachel Maddow said today that the number of GOP Congressmembers who signed the
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:25 AM
Nov 2012

Norquist pledge is very low.

He's gradually losing his power and influence.

That's good for us!

bucolic_frolic

(43,126 posts)
22. Maybe Christie should address Congressional Republicans
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:33 PM
Nov 2012

No magic money tree?

Bwahhhhhhhhhh! I want my millionaire tax cut so I can buy a new yacht!

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