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Botany

(72,795 posts)
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 04:38 PM Jul 2023

5:30 pm Columbus Ohio and the smoke is all around

Good God in Butter this is depressing. And yet we have
a party, much of the media, Joe Manchin, and TPTB in lock step with the fossil fuel industries who right now are killing the supportive capacities of our home aka the earth. Until our sun becomes a red giant the earth will be here but humans not so much.

Sunday evening we had a short thunderstorm where you could here and feel it coming in but you could not see the rain clouds because of the smoke but the rain fell through all that forest fire smoke and Dog only knows what kind of potentially toxic compounds those rain drops brought down with them.

this is the end of the world as we know it.

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5:30 pm Columbus Ohio and the smoke is all around (Original Post) Botany Jul 2023 OP
I've lived through that many summers. cilla4progress Jul 2023 #1
Well, there are certainly more and bigger fires now, scary-more, Hortensis Jul 2023 #2
Please those areas that are now burning or have been Botany Jul 2023 #4
Exactly Chi67 Jul 2023 #5
It "is" now. New climate. Look, I'm old. I've been watching Hortensis Jul 2023 #8
DURec leftstreet Jul 2023 #3
Fair chance of rain on Thursday. irisblue Jul 2023 #6
Back in 1969 when steel was king the Cuyahoga River in Cleveland caught fire. doc03 Jul 2023 #7

cilla4progress

(26,003 posts)
1. I've lived through that many summers.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 04:41 PM
Jul 2023

And that song was one I kept thinking: "it's the end of the world as we know it..."

I feel you!

Hang on. It will subside.

❤️

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Well, there are certainly more and bigger fires now, scary-more,
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 04:53 PM
Jul 2023

but maybe it'd help maintain courage and perspective to keep in mind that fire has always been a critically important, necessary tool that nature uses to maintain healthy environments. That rain has always fed the soil with smoke particulates, and that fire actually accelerates release of most nutrients from organic matter into the soil when it burns instead of decaying over time. Etcetera x incredible complexity.

Doesn't make it not a disaster of unimaginable scope, but it's incredibly complex alterations to incredibly complex systems. It's not all loss, and it's not the end of the world. And even if it ultimately changes our lives in ways we don't want, at least the planet's adjustments are really even not all about us.

Botany

(72,795 posts)
4. Please those areas that are now burning or have been
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 05:06 PM
Jul 2023

... burnt in Canada should almost never "carry fires" because they are under snow 4 to 8 months of the year and the ground/forest floor should be wet the rest of the year. Now you might have some trees that died because of something or other and they will burn but the forest floor "up there" should not be burning.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. It "is" now. New climate. Look, I'm old. I've been watching
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 11:22 PM
Jul 2023

this develop for nearly 60 years. For half really thought we'd stop before it got this bad, even proud of things we Democrats mostly managed to do against great opposition, really feeling change itself would force action.

But since, as more and more people instead seemed willing to run the world off a cliff to act out tribal antagonisms...

Horrifying, sickening, all the emotional reactions -- over this century of insanity especially. I was a passionate gardener for decades; my world changed dramatically long ago, and my personal losses and adjustments were wrenching long ago, and of course continue.

So I've just had more time to arrive at grim acceptance of what's too late to stop and determination to work with what we have. It's never too late for what we CAN do.

doc03

(37,103 posts)
7. Back in 1969 when steel was king the Cuyahoga River in Cleveland caught fire.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 06:06 PM
Jul 2023

In the upper Ohio valley the AQI was in the unhealthy or hazardous range nearly all summer.

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