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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPiss poor journalism. ABC affiliate--Texas first state to formally ask Washington to secede
No, Texas as a state did NOT ask to secede. Some fringe idiots found 24,999 other unverified signature idiots to sign an online petition.
http://www.12newsnow.com/story/20078722/texas-first-state-to-formally-ask-washington-to-secede
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Texas has become the first state to reach the 25,000 petition signatures necessary to formally ask Washington for its independence. Since the November election, 19 other states have joined Texas in petitioning the government to secede.
The Texas Nationalist Movement, which advocates state sovereignty, saw a 400% spike in enrollment following Election Day. Its web traffic is up 9,000%.
Hardin County conservative blogger Peter Morrison has advocated an "amicable divorce" from the United States.
Monday, 12 News asked Morrison why he has embraced secession. Morrison sent 12 News the following statement.
"People living in a free society should have control over their own destiny. When citizens of Czechoslovakia decided to peacefully separate into the Czech Republic and Slovakia, it was not a case of a sore loser, but rather two free people groups deciding they wanted to govern themselves independently."
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)It's because Czechosolovakia was a country manufactured by the Nazis...it didn't exist prior, and they wanted to go back to the way it was...
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Response to hobbit709 (Reply #9)
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Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)It was relatively common for geographic neighbors in Europe to unite and form nations (despite ethnic/cultural differences), if for no reason other than to protect themselves from someone else trying to move in and take over...
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)to supposedly save money.
Craptascular non-researched fact-free faux journalism.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)I didn't say we'd agreed. I said we consider.
We'll figure out how long it will take to remove all US resources from Texas and how much Texas has to pay for us to do it.
We'll present them with the bills.
We'll send out the notices which proceed pink notices to people who will no longer be employed.
Surely the state would have to schedule a vote on the matter.
But people really should be informed about their vote.
BTW, those natural resources in your state.
They belong to us. We paid Mexico for everything.
However we are willing to let you buy the land back just not what is underneath the surface.
We expect to be paid for the highways and airports we built.
Military facilities will have to be paid for or we'll just continue to control them as we do in the rest of the world.
SDjack
(1,448 posts)Let them set up their own government and police, but make them stay inside the reservation. Set up a 1-way turnstile -- you can go in, but you can't come out. Have the US Army patrol the perimeter and deal with those who try to sneak into town. Seriously, folks, nothing is going to come of these petitions. The traditional way Texas begins the new campaign season is for the ultra-conservatives to beat the drum for secession the day after election. They are first out of the chute, and they begin by solidifying their base. Been going on since 1845. The last guy to do was Gov. Perry, and he just said that he wants Texas to stay in the Union.
NoPasaran
(17,291 posts)Texas paid for its own independence in blood, at the Alamo, Goliad, and San Jacinto, and was a sovereign republic when annexed by a joint resolution of Congress in 1845. Furthermore, under the terms of the Act of Annexation, while Texas turned over to the US its fortresses and magazines, it retained ownership of all its lands.
It's a silly matter, since Texas isn't really going anywhere. But historically Texas does have a somewhat different relationship with the Federal Government compared with the other Western states created by fiat out of larger territories.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)to settle in texas. but, mexico, i know it's hard to believe, had laws against slavery. and those coming to texas were very much into slavery. some act like those who were invited in to settle sacrificed for their freedom. we create our own stories to tell ourselves when we take that open hand and bite it.
and some of those so called heroic texans did some very heinous acts against other tex-mexicans. some have sterilized the st. patrick's brigade, but there was a reason they went to texas and wound up fighting along side the mexican soldiers. and today, they are still honored by mexico.
Bake
(21,977 posts)What? No takers?
I'm shocked, I tell you. SHOCKED!
Bake
Dems50State
(147 posts)Actually my grandmothers house was close to a KKK and one of the groups asking Texas to leave. There has been groups of people always asking to leave the Union every since Texas became a state in the nation. Texas is the only state capable of having it state flag as high as the United States Flag. Texas is the only state that until high school senior year you learn nothing about the Government only Texas History. I remember the trouble I had on understanding how the 3 branches of Government work in high school.
Texas wanting to leave the nation isn't related to Obama, but instead the day it became a state. A friend of mine in Texas always called me and said the moment we leave the Nation the first Hurricane that hits us they are screwed when it comes to money. Remember people on the coast once you leave the Nation you do not get hurricane relief money from storms anymore. DEAL WITH IT!
Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)So 1/10th of 1 percent of the TX population signs this petition and the media acts like it's news.
What the hell?
Robb
(39,665 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Two of my favorite towns on earth are there. Just a longstanding pet peeve... anyone who talks about the Velvet Revolution as "peaceful" wasn't in Prague in July and August.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Actually, she was spending the semester in Budapest (sister campus), but she did some traveling. It was her second trip to Prague in the last four years. She also hit a lot of other cities in the region on both trips. We're working on putting together calendar pictures from those shots. We're talking like 20GB total from her trips. It's hard to narrow them down.
On the plus side, the server has 9TB of space so sorting them out isn't a disk space issue.
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)I can't wait. There is nothing I like more than an old European capital city! Esp. three that have such fabulous Art Nouveau architecture...
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Well, technically she's been to London but only because her connecting flight was at Hethrow.
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)fulfilling! Congrats to her, she is very mature and wise to do this.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Well, I've been in almost half of the states, but Montreal and Toronto were my only "out of country" experiences. Strip bars on St. Catherine St. in Montreal, The Needle in Toronto. I've never been off-continent.
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)Since I retired in 2004 I have been to Italy 4 times, France, the Netherlands, Spain, Portugal and Belgium. It has always been wonderful. You should go for the cathedrals, the museums, the food, the culture and the art. To me, Spain was the standout. I always say Spain changed my life. What a country!
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I'll just look at the pictures they bring back. I'd love to go, but I need a cane and a service dog just to go to the liquor store. My time has come and gone. The girls are young adults and they deserve the opportunity. I'm an asshole. I don't deserve it.
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)My husband, who does not like to travel anyway, has to use a cane to get around and so he does not travel with me, and it is too bad. It would be nice to share everything. But it is not to be.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I feel like a fucking invalid now. It took a while to get over the shame, but I do okay now. The dog helps.
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)around and have your faithful canine companion! Take care....altho I know that no words of mine can change things, I do hope for better things for you in your life.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I've broken most of them myself during a seizure. They've got me on daily injections of Forteo which allegedly rebuilds bone (rather than bisphosponates which simply depress the natural decomposition). We'll see. I've only been on it for just over 3 months and have to stay on it for two full years. I just miss being able to do things I used to take for granted - like running.
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)improvement with the medication, which sounds promising.
But what I don't understand is that you felt shame. I'm not trying to second guess you because you feel what you feel. I think you are brave and you are a strong voice in our community for our common ideals, which I believe are noble. That, I think, is a most laudable thing to do.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I've still got the attitude.
It just took a while to adjust to using a cane, wearing a back brace, and needing a service dog. I'm getting more used to it.
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I take drugs for the seizures and they've mostly worked (not entirely). One more could do me in, but I'm at peace with myself and life. Everyone has to cache in at some point. I would sort of like to live long enough to see grandchildren, but I'm not in any way rushing the girls. Time will tell.
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)CTyankee
(63,901 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Hell, Puerto Rico asked to JOIN the union, and for good reason. We're demographically separated, not territorially. It's a silly notion. My basic reply is, "um, bye", but it's still silly.
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)Thanks for the thread, Horse with no Name.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)3.5 million Texans voted for Obama, and 70,000 nuts and internet trolls are getting the media spotlight...
Marr
(20,317 posts)lol
kentuck
(111,076 posts)They will no longer be valid. Also, do not cash your Social Security checks or any VA pensions. They will not be honored. Just so you know the consequences...
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)That should invalidate it right there. I guess since nothing new is going on with the Petraeus mess today, the media needed a story.